Hello,
I’m not related, but based on the information you submitted to the XO Chronicles at Ireland Reaching Out, I found the civil registration birth record for Jesse Ellen McVeigh at the free irishgenealogy.ie website.
The record confirms your date of birth for Jessie as 13 March 1873. Further, the birth record shows that Jessie was born in Aghalee, County Antrim. Her father is Patrick McVeigh, a Farmer living in Aghalee. Jesse’s mother is Elizabeth McVeigh, formerly Garland. Jesse’s father Patrick reported the birth to the registrar, Samuel Parke, who recorded the birth in the Lurgan Registration District on March 17, 1873. Jesse’s birth is the first entry in the register, which you can access after following the prompts at: https://tinyurl.com/3h6keauy
I also uncovered Jesse’s baptism transcription at the Find My Past (FMP) website, but the baptism record gives her name as “Teresa Ellen McEvoy,” and her parents as Patrick McEvoy and Elizabeth Garland.
Teresa was baptized in the Magheralinn Catholic Parish on 16 March 1873. You can access the transcription after establishing a free account with FMP: https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=IRE%2FPRS%2FBAP%2F2012870
Attached to the baptism transcription is a link that will take you to a copy of the original baptism record held by the National Library of Ireland, Kildare Street, Dublin. Go to the following link: https://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000633243#page/8/mode/1up
There are two facing pages of the baptism register. You can enlarge to pages by means of round icons in the upper center/ right of the screen. The icons are white with green backgrounds. You can also access the full-screen function by clicking on the last icon on the right with the two arrows pointing northeast and southwest.
Teresa’s baptism is the last entry on the left-hand register page. If you enlarge the page sufficiently, you can see that her father’s surname is actually recorded as “McVey.” Teresa’s godparents are John and Martha Lavery.
To the right of Martha Lavery’s name you’ll see the numbers 5 0. This means that parents, Patrick and Elizabeth, donated 5 Shillings to the church baptizing Teresa.
The Magheralinn (also spelled Magheralin) Catholic Parish is located in counties Down and Armagh, with the townland of Magheralin being situated in County Down. The Google Map at the following link shows that Magheralin in County Down is 5.7 miles south of Aghalee by the shortest route: https://tinyurl.com/497reamm
Both Aghalee and Magheralin are just east of Lough Neagh.
The Magheralin Catholic Parish Church is called St. Patrick’s and Ronan’s, situated on the Belfast Road (A3), in Magheralin, as seen on this Google Map: https://tinyurl.com/26pb7cys
For a Google Street View of St. Patrick’s and Ronan’s Catholic Church, go to: https://tinyurl.com/bdfh42nw
You can read a brief history of the church the rootsweb/rosdavies link:
https://freepages.rootsweb.com/~rosdavies/genealogy/PHOTOSwords/Maghera…
You’ll have to scroll down the page to read about St. Patrick’s Church in Magheralin.
At this point in the research I didn’t know if Jessie Ellen/Teresa Ellen McVeigh was one of the older or younger children of Patrick McVeigh and Elizabeth Garland. I looked for Patrick and Elizabeth’s civil registration marriage record at the irishgenealogy.ie website but didn’t find it.
This may be because civil registration of births, marriages, and deaths for all religious denominations were not recorded by the Irish government until 1864.
Patrick and Elizabeth may have been married prior to 1864, and so I looked for their marriage in the Magheralin, County Down Catholic Parish at the FMP website, but didn’t find a transcription of it.
I then expanded the search for their marriage at other Catholic parishes in counties Down, Armagh, and Antrim at FMP, and located it. The FMP website shows their marriage took place in the Glenavy and Killead Catholic Parish, County Antrim, on 13 February 1859, 14 years before their daughter Jessie’s birth.
In the Glenavy and Killead marriage transcription Patrick’s surname is spelled, “McVey.” Elizabeth is recorded as “Eliza” Garland: https://tinyurl.com/2cxw2c37
A copy of the original marriage record from the National Library of Ireland is the last entry the right-hand register page: https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633183#page/44/mode/1up
The name of one of the witnesses to the marriage looks like Joseph Gillan. The first name of the second witness is Margaret, but I couldn’t make out what her last name was.
According to the Shane Wilson website, the Glenavy and Killead Catholic Parish Church was located in a suburb of Glenavy called Ballymacricket. See:
https://www.swilson.info/rcparishlink.php?seldioceseid=5&selrcparid=177…
The name of the church in Ballymacricket is St. Joseph’s, located a little over a mile south of Glenavy: https://tinyurl.com/2kupkbkh
For a Google Street View of St. Joseph’s Church, in the Chapel Road, Ballymacricket, see: https://tinyurl.com/2p8f9j7s
St. Joseph’s Church in Ballymacricket was constructed in the year 1802. For an interesting history about the church, go to the glenavyhistory.com link at:
http://glenavyhistory.com/places-of-worship/glenavy-places-of-worship/s…
I next wanted to see how far Glenavy and Ballymacricket are from Aghalee, where Jesse Ellen McVeigh was born. The map shows Glenavy and Ballymacricket are 9 miles north of Aghalee: https://tinyurl.com/2p8sd6h2
Having been married in 1859 I figured that Patrick McVeigh and Elizabeth/Eliza Garland had several children before their daughter Jesse Ellen was born in 1873.
I next looked for the FMP baptism transcriptions for any other children they had. The baptisms of any children born after 1863 would act like indexes to search for the children’s individual civil birth records at the irishgenealogy.ie website.
In addition to Jesse Ellen, I found the birth and or baptism records for six more children of Patrick McVeigh and Elizabeth Garland. Their names, type of record found, and year of birth and/or baptisms are below. I’ve also included the birth and baptism for Jessie so that you can see the full chronology of the births and baptisms of all seven children:
John McVeigh, Glenavy and Killead Catholic Parish baptism, 1859
John McVeigh, Magheralinn, Armagh and Down baptism, 1861
Elizabeth McVeigh, Magheralinn, Armagh and Down birth and baptism, 1866
William Patrick McVeigh, birth and Magheralinn, Armagh and Down baptism, 1868
James McVeigh, Magheralinn, Armagh and Down baptism, 1871
Jesse (Teresa) Ellen McVeigh, birth and Magheralinn, Armagh and Down baptism, 1873
Anne McVeigh, birth and Magheralinn, Armagh and Down baptism, 1875
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You’ll notice there are two baptism records for a John McVeigh. This means the first-born child named John had died, and the parents named their second-born son after him.
You’ll also notice the first-born John McVeigh was baptized in the Glenavy and Killead Catholic Parish, County Antrim. The other six children were baptized in the Magheralinn Catholic Parish, which covers portions of in County Down and County Armagh.
BIRTH OF THE FIRST BORN JOHN MCVEIGH
The FMP baptism transcription shows that John “McVey” was baptized in the Glenavy and Killead Catholic Parish on 16 October 1859. His father is Pat McVey and his mother Eliza Garland. See the transcription at:
https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=IRE%2FPRS%2FBAP%2F1784957
A copy of the original baptism for John McVey is the 4th entry down from the top of the left-hand register page at:
https://tinyurl.com/3ytyje89
The names of the godparents are hard to understand completely, but like like they may be Mr. and Mrs. Crepey
John was born and baptized 8 months after the marriage of his parents, who, as noted earlier, were married in the Glenavy and Killead Catholic Parish on 13 February 1859.
BIRTH OF THE SECOND BORN JOHN MCVEIGH
John McVeigh was baptized in the Magheralinn Catholic Parish on 7 July 1861 according to the FMP transcription at:
https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=IRE%2FPRS%2FBAP%2F2012171
The maiden name of John’s mother is spelled “Garlan” in the transcription.
The original baptism record for John McVeigh is the first entry at the top of the right-hand register page at:
https://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000633242#page/25/mode/1up
His godparents are James McVeigh and Anne Magee. To the right of Anne Magee’s name is the notation, “Aghalee,” meaning that John and his parents were living in Aghalee at the time of the baptism.
BIRTH OF ELIZABETH MCVEIGH
Elizabeth’s birth record from the free irishgenealogy.ie website shows she was born in Aghalee on 23 February 1866. Her father is Patrick McVeigh, a “Weaver,” residing in Aghalee. Patrick signed the birth register with “his x mark,” signifying he could not write.
Elizabeth’s mother is Elizabeth McVeigh, formerly Garland. Patrick, the father, reported the birth to the registrar, Andrew Neeson, who recorded the birth in the Lurgan Registration District on March 1, 1866. Elizabeth’s birth is number 316 in the register, which you can access at: https://tinyurl.com/2ycbrdkx
BAPTISM OF ELIZABETH MCVEY
The FMP transcription shows Elizabeth “McVey” was baptized in the Magheralinn Parish on 23 February 1866:
https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=IRE%2FPRS%2FBAP%2F2012490
A copy of her original baptism record is the 14th entry up from the bottom of the right-hand register page at:
https://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000633242#page/30/mode/1up
Elizabeth’s godparents appear to be Arthur Lavery and Barbara O’Neill.
BIRTH OF WILLIAM PATRICK MCVEIGH
William Patrick McVeigh was born in Aghalee on November 6, 1868. His father is Patrick McVeigh, a weaver living in Aghalee. His mother is Eliza McVeigh, formerly “Gardner.” Patrick reported the birth to the registrar, Samuel Parke, who recorded the birth in the Lurgan Registration District on November 9, 1868. William’s birth record can be accessed at: https://tinyurl.com/as4j5kyz
BAPTISM OF PATRICK MCVEIGH
In his FMP baptism transcription, William’s first name is recorded as “Patrick.” Patrick McVeigh was baptized in the Magheralinn Catholic Parish on 7 November 1868: https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=IRE%2FPRS%2FBAP%2F2012652
A copy of Patrick’s original baptism record is the 4th entry down from the top of the right-hand register page at:
https://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000633242#page/33/mode/1up
The names of his godparents appear to be Wm (William) Garland and Cath (Catherine) Donegan.
BIRTH OF JAMES MCVEIGH
James was born in Aghalee on January 12, 1871. His father is Patrick McVeigh, a “Farmer” living in Aghalee. James’s mother is Elizabeth McVeigh, formerly Garland. Elizabeth, the mother, of Aghalee, reported the birth to the registrar, Samuel Parke, who recorded the birth in the Lurgan Registration District on January 22, 1871. Elizabeth signed the birth register with “her x mark,” meaning she could not write. James’s birth record is number 114 in the register: https://tinyurl.com/42fyt8b9
BAPTISM OF JAMES MCVEIGH
The transcription at the FMP website gives the baptism of James McVeigh as 8 January 1871. But, in his birth record, James was born on January 12, 1871.
James couldn’t have been baptized before he was born, which means the date of his birth, January 12, 1871, is suspect.
The Magheralinn Parish baptism transcription for James McVeigh can be found at:
https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=IRE%2FPRS%2FBAP%2F2012763
A copy of James’s original baptism record is on the right-hand register page, 4th entry below the January subheading at:
https://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000633242#page/36/mode/1up
The handwriting in this baptism record is a challenge to read, but from what I could read, the first name of the godmother is Catherine. I couldn’t tell what her last names was. The first name of the godfather may be James, but I can’t be sure of that. I couldn’t tell what the godfather’s last name was.
Squeezed in between James’s baptism and the next baptism below for a Catherine O’Neill, is a notation. I couldn’t decipher all the words in the notation.
The notation reads…
“This James McVeigh was married to Anne Luff? On 29th November 1910, St. Patrick’s Church, “Raff…?” Diocese of “Raff.” America.”
I’ll have more about James’s marriage at the end of this reply.
At the very right-hand margin of James’s baptism record are the numbers 2 and 6. These numbers mean that James’s parents made a donation of 2 Shillings and 6 Pence to the church for performing the baptism ceremony.
BIRTH OF ANN MCVEIGH
Ann was born in Aghalee on April 14, 1875. Her father is Patrick McVeigh, a farmer living in Aghalee. Her mother is Elizabeth McVeigh, formerly Garland. Patrick reported the birth to the registrar, Samuel Parke, who recorded the birth in the Lurgan Registration District on May 6, 1875. Ann’s birth is number 200 in the register: https://tinyurl.com/4m8y4edv
BAPTISM OF ANNE MCVEIGH
The FMP transcription shows that Anne “McNeigh” was baptized in the Magheralinn Parish on 25 April 1875. To access the transcription go to: https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=IRE%2FPRS%2FBAP%2F2012962
A copy of Anne’s original baptism is the last entry on the right-hand register page:
https://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000633243#page/11/mode/1up
Anne’s godfather is Pat Lavery. The first name of the godmother is Mary. Her last name may be Crossey, or perhaps Cassey, but I can’t be sure of that however. The baptism record also shows that Anne and her family were living in Aghalee.
DEATH OF ANNE MCVEIGH
Sadly, little Anne died on November 18, 1876 in Aghalee at the age of 1 year and 6 months according to her death record. The cause of death was, “Mesenteric Disease,” which is an intestinal artery disease. The death record also notes that Anne was “ill from birth.” She is also shown to have been the “Daughter of a Weaver.” The person who was present at the death and who reported the death to the registrar was her mother Elizabeth McVeigh, of Aghalee. The registrar, Samuel Parke recorded the death in the Lurgan Registration District on November 23, 1876. Anne’s death is number 89 in the register: https://tinyurl.com/4a9etszt
BIRTH OF CHARLES MCVEIGH
Charles McVeigh was born in Aghalee on 1 January 1880. His father is Patrick McVeigh, a “Weaver,” living in Aghalee. His mother is Elizabeth McVeigh, formerly Garland. Lizzie McVeigh, of Aghalee was present at the birth and signed the birth register with “her + mark.” She reported the birth to the registrar, James Graham Jefferson, who recorded the birth in the Lurgan Registration District on 5 January, 1880. Charles’s birth is number 250 in the register: https://tinyurl.com/4t2xr5fa
QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MCVEIGH BAPTISMS
Going back to the McVeigh baptism records, I am not sure why Patrick and Elizabeth, when living in Aghalee, had six of their children baptized in the Magheralinn Catholic Parish in County Down. The parish church for Catholics living in Aghalee, County Antrim, was the Catholic Parish of Aghagallon, also known as the Catholic Parish of Aghagallon & Ballinderry.
According to the Shane Wilson website the Aghagallon Catholic Parish church was located in the townland of Derrynaseer, a suburb of Aghagallon, just south of Aghalee. See the Shane Wilson site, which also shows a map of the Aghalee and Aghagallon areas of County Antrim, and Magheralin in County Down.
https://www.swilson.info/rcparishlink.php?seldioceseid=5&selrcparid=159…
A Google Map shows that the Aghagallon & Ballinderry Catholic Parish Church is 1.5 miles southwest of Aghalee, by the shortest modern-day routes: https://tinyurl.com/yckerbd7
Another Google Map shows the distance between Aghalee, County Antrim, and Magheralin, County Down, is 5.7 miles by the shortest modern-day routes: https://tinyurl.com/ykzrj4nj
Information about the Aghagallon Catholic Parish register dates of baptisms, marriages, and funerals from the National Library of Ireland website, also includes a map of the the Aghagallon Catholic Parish, County Antrim, as well as the Catholic Parish of Gelnavy & Killead, County Antrim, where the first-born John McVeigh was baptized, and the Catholic Parish of Magheralinn, County Down, where the other six McVeigh children were baptized: https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0380
If you decrease the size of the Catholic parish map, you’ll be able to see that the Aghagallon Parish in County Antrim, is on the southeastern shore of Lough Neagh, and on the border with County Down, and also not very far away from County Armagh.
THE 1901 CENSUS
I next wanted to see if Patrick and Elizabeth McVeigh were recorded in the 1901 Irish census, and still living in Aghalee, or perhaps another townland in County Antrim. There was also the possibility that by 1901 one or both of them could have been deceased.
I accessed the 1901 census, as well as the 1911 census at the free National Archives of Ireland website link: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/
I found that Patrick McVeigh was a 69 year old widower in the 1901 census. His occupation was “Farmer.” In the household with him were his 29 year old son William, who was employed as a “Linen Weaver.” William’s 24 year old wife Mary Anne is employed as a “Dressmaker.” Also in the household is William and Mary Anne’s son, James Henry McVeigh. The 1901 census transcription does not give James Henry’s age, but he would have been less than a year old. Everyone in the household was Roman Catholic and had been born in County Antrim. Patrick McVeigh is shown to be able to read. William and his wife Mary Anne were able to read and write.
The 1901 census shows that Patrick McVeigh and his household were the “Residents of a house 49 in Aghalee (Aghalee, Antrim).”
You can access the 1901 census transcription at the National Archives of Ireland link: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Aghalee/Aghalee…
Once the census downloads, make sure you tick the box, “Show all information,” to view the full census page.
A copy of the original 1901 census for the Patrick McVeigh household can be found at: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000376284/
By scrolling down to the bottom of the right-hand corner of the original census form is Patrick McVeigh’s signature as the head of the household. To the left of his signature is the signature of the census enumerator who collected the census form from Patrick. The enumerator was J. Patterson, who was a police sergeant.
The 1901 census shows that Patrick McVeigh was a widower, which means his wife Elizabeth would have died between the birth of their daughter Anne in 1875, and the date of the 1901 census. The date of the 1901 census enumeration was 31 March.
I looked for Elizabeth’s civil registration death record at the irishgenealogy.ie website and found it. Elizabeth McVeigh died in Aghalee on January 7, 1900. At the time of death she was 54 years old and married to a farmer. The cause of death was, “Bronchitis 2 years. Influenza 5 days.” The person who was present at the death and who reported the death to the registrar was Elizabeth’s “Widower,” Patrick McVeigh. The registrar, W.W. Duff, recorded the death in the Lurgan Registration District on January 8, 1900. Elizabeth’s death is number 323 in the register: https://tinyurl.com/2p8rzkbz
If her age of 54 is accurate at the time of death in 1900, Elizabeth Garland would have been born circa 1846. But, without knowing the names of her parents or where she was born, you won’t be able to identify with any certainty, a baptism record for her.
The 1901 census also shows that in the household with Patrick McVeigh are his son William, William’s wife Mary Anne, and William and Mary Anne’s son, James Henry McVeigh.
With having a child less than a year old I figured that William and Mary Anne were married one to two years before the 1901 census was enumerated. I looked for their civil registration marriage record at the irishgenealogy.ie website and found it.
THE MARRIAGE OF WILLIAM MCVEIGH AND MARY ANN DOYLE
William McVeigh and Mary Ann Doyle were married in the Roman Catholic Chapel of Aghagallon, County Antrim, on January 7, 1900. At the time of marriage both were of “Full” age. William had been a bachelor and Mary a spinster. William’s occupation was “Farmer.” Mary’s occupation was “Dressmaker.” William’s residence at the time of marriage looks like “Folly Hill, Aghalee.” His father is Patrick McVeigh, a Farmer.
At the time of marriage Mary Ann Doyle was living in Ballymacreaney. Her father is Henry Doyle, a “Labourer.” The priest who married William and Mary Ann was John McCarton. The witnesses to the marriage were James McVeigh and Lizzie Lavery. William and Mary Ann signed the marriage register unassisted. Their marriage was record by the registrar. W.W. Duff in the Lurgan Registration District on 15 January 1900. The marriage record is the first one in the register at number 63. https://tinyurl.com/yckvp9v8
I looked for Folly Hill, Aghalee on Ordnance Survey maps of County Antrim from the early to mid 19th century but could not find this specific location in Aghalee. I also looked for the townland of Ballymacreaney on Google Maps, but didn’t find it. A similar sounding townland is Ballymacilrany, located in the Aghagallon Civil Parish, according to the IreAtlas Townland Data Base at: https://tinyurl.com/9y6msmhy
You can view the location of Ballymacilrany, shaded in blue, on a townlands.ie map. Just below Ballymacilrany you’ll see Aghalee: https://tinyurl.com/2p8wz7yd
I did find the townland of Ballymacilrany on the 19th century Ordnanance Survey maps, and so this may actually be the townland where Mary Anne Doyle was living when she and William McVeigh were married in 1900.
The civil registration birth record of William McVeigh and Mary Anne Doyle’s son, James Henry McVeigh, confirms the Ballymacilrany location noted above. James Henry was born in Ballymacilrany on 15 December 1900. At the time of the birth however, his father William, a farmer, was living in Aghalee. James Henry’s mother is Mary Anne McVeigh, formerly Doyle. William reported the birth of his son to the registrar, W.W. Duff, who recorded the birth in the Lurgan Registration District on December 17, 1900. The birth record is number 86 in the register: https://tinyurl.com/yc2ptha5
Going back to the marriage of William McVeigh and Mary Anne Doyle, it makes sense that they were married in the Aghagallon Roman Catholic Chapel, as that was the Catholic Parish chapel for Catholics living in the civil parishes of Aghalee as well as Aghagallon. The full name of the parish is Aghagallon & Ballinderry.
As mentioned earlier the Aghgallon Catholic Parish Church, according to the Shane Wilson website, is located in the townland of Derrynaseer, located near Aghagallon and Aghalee. You can see the location of the church on a Google Map from the Shane Wilson website at: https://tinyurl.com/3najp643
The church is called St. Patrick’s, and according to the Parish of Aghagallon & Ballinderry website, the church was “rebuilt” in 1834. See:
https://www.aghagallonandballinderryparish.ie/church/st-patricks-church…
For a Google Street View of the church, see: https://tinyurl.com/3k3t8dh4
THE MARRIAGE OF JOHN KANE AND JESSE E. MCVEIGH
The “Jesse Ellen Kane: Short Biography” you submitted to Ireland XO also includes a link to the Find A Grave website for the burials of Jesse McVeigh Kane, her husband John, son Charles Patrick, and daughter Eileen Veronica Kane.
Knowing that Jesse married John Kane, I found their civil registration marriage record at the irishgenealogy.ie website. The were married in the Roman Catholic Chapel of St. Paul’s, Belfast, on January 5, 1901. At the time of marriage John Kane was a bachelor and Jesse a spinster. Their ages are not recorded in the marriage record, but the marriage record does show that John was employed as a “Farmer,” and Jesse as a “Servant.”
At the time of marriage John was living in Glenavy and Jesse in the Springfield Road, which I take to mean the Springfield Road in Belfast. The marriage record also shows that John father was William Kane, a Farmer, and that Jesse’s father was Patrick McVeigh, also a Farmer. The priest who married the couple was Joseph Boylan C.C. The initials C.C. stand for “Catholic Curate.”
The witnesses to the marriage were Edmund Warrener and Lizzie Lavery. The marriage was recorded in the Belfast Registration District by the Deputy Registrar, A. McMaster. See the marriage record at: https://tinyurl.com/jvx64vn3
The following Google Map shows that the Springfield Road in Belfast, where Jessie was living at the time of marriage, is 1.3 miles west of St. Paul’s Church in the Falls Road: https://tinyurl.com/mwah55s6
Here is a Google Street View of the Springfield Road: https://tinyurl.com/4z3mtfaf
For a Google Street View of St. Paul’s Church on the corner of the Falls Road and Cavendish Square, Belfast, go to: https://tinyurl.com/2zfar6vy
The Kane and McVeigh marriage record also shows that John Kane was from Glenavy, which is near the townland of Ballymacricket, where the Glenavy and Killead Catholic Parish Church of St. Joseph is located. The first-born John McVeigh, and the marriage of his parents Patrick McVeigh and Elizabeth Garland, took place in this parish in 1859.
John Kane and Jesse McVeigh were married in Belfast, on January 5, 1901, and so I looked for them in the 1901 census which was taken on 31 March. I found Jesse Kane in the census, but under her middle name of Ellen. The census shows she is a 25 year old General Domestic Servant in the household of a linen merchant, 44 year old David Johnston, his 39 year old wife Sarah, and their four children, who all belonged to the Church of Ireland. Ellen is shown to be married but her husband John is not in the household. The census also shows Ellen was Roman Catholic, born in County Antrim, and could read and write. The Johnston household also includes a, border, 36 year old Eleanor Mackin, employed as a National School Teacher.
The census also shows that the Johnston family, Eleanor Mackin, and Ellen Kane were the “Residents of a house 12 in Springfield Road (Falls Ward, Antrim).”
Springfield Road was Jesse E. McVeigh’s residence when she and John Kane were married on 5 January 1901. See the 1901 census transcription at: https://tinyurl.com/3ycv6382
For a copy of the original 1901 census of the Johnston household go to: www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000348150/
I looked for, but could not identify John Kane in the 1901 census. There is always the possibility I missed finding him.
THE 1911 CENSUS
I looked for Patrick McVeigh in the 1911 census but did not find him, and so I figured he died sometime between the time of the 1901 census was taken on 31 March, and the 1911 census, which was enumerated on 2 April of that year.
Going to the irishgenealogy.ie website I found that Patrick McVeigh Sr. died in Aghalee on October 30, 1905 at the age of 76. At the time of death he was a widower and a farmer. The cause of death was “Malignant Disease of stomach 10 months.” The person who was present at the death and who reported the death to the registrar was Patrick’s daughter-in-law, Mary Anne McVeigh, who signed the death register with “her + mark.” The registrar, W.W. Duff, recorded Patrick’s death in the Lurgan registration District on November 10, 1905. Patrick’s death is number 166 in the register: https://tinyurl.com/47ew6wkz
I did however find 31 year old John Kane, his 31 year old wife Ellen, and their five children in the 1911 census, which shows they were the “Residents of a house 5 in Ballyrickard (Comber, Down).”
John’s occupation is “Railway Gate Keeper.” No occupation is recorded for Ellen. The census shows that John and Ellen were born in County Antrim. The children in the household are 8 year old John, a Scholar At School; 6 year old Marey, also a Scholar At School; 4 year old Annie Lizzie; 2 year old Cecelia; and Charles Patrick, whose age is not given in the census transcription, but who would have been under 1 year of age. All the children were born in County Down.
The 1911 census line for 31 year old Ellen Kane shows that she and her husband had been married for 10 years, and in that time had 5 children, with all five children still alive.
See the 1911 census transcription from the National Archives of Ireland at:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Comber/Ballyricka…
You’ll have to tick the box, “Show all information” to view the full census page from left to right.
For a copy of the original 1911 census go to: www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai002290461/
A copy of the original 1911 census shows that Charles Patrick Kane was 3 months old. The gravestone photo you submitted as a source with your Ireland XO Short Biography of Jessie E. Kane, shows that Charles Patrick died on 29 May 1915 at age 4 ½.
I found the death record for Charles Kane at the irishgenealogy.ie website, which confirms he died on 29 May 1915. His age is recorded as 4. He died in the Newtownards (County Down) Fever Hospital. The two causes of death are “Scarlatina 10 days. Oedemia of glottis.” He is shown to have been a “Labourer’s child.”
The person who reported Charles’s death to the registrar was Robert Gibson, who was the “Occupier” of the “Workhouse Newtownards.” Charles’s death was recorded in the Newtownards Registration District by the registrar, David Jamison, on 1 June 1915. Charles’s death is number 352 in the register: https://tinyurl.com/72bk2u83
For a history and photos and map views of the Newtownards workhouse and fever hospital, go to the workhouses.org.uk website link at: https://www.workhouses.org.uk/Newtownards/
The 1911 census shows that John and Ellen Kane had 5 children born, and 5 children still living as of 1911. Through some additional research I was this information is not entirely accurate. At the irishgenealogy.ie website I discovered that John Kane and Jesse Ellen Kane, formerly McVeigh, had a daughter named Cecelia Elizabeth, who was born in Aghalee on September 17, 1901. John’s occupation was “Labourer.” The person who was present at the birth, and who reported the birth to the registrar was Jesse’s sister-in-law, Mary A. McVeigh, of Aghalee. For some reason, the registrar, W.W. Duff, seems to have circled Mary A. McVeigh’s name. W.W. Duff recorded the birth in the Lurgan Registration District on September 23, 1901. For Cecelia Elizabeth’s birth record, see:
https://tinyurl.com/4du43yxj
Cecelia’s parents John Kane and Jesse E. McVeigh were married in Belfast, on January 5, 1901, as noted earlier. Their daughter Cecelia Elizabeth was born on 17 September 1901, less than 9 months after the marriage of their parents. This may be an indication that Cecelia Elizabeth was born prematurely by 18 days.
Cecelia Elizabeth isn’t in the 1911 census with her family, as her civil registration death record from irishgenealogy.ie shows she died in Aghalee on December 13, 1901 at the age of 3 months. She is shown to have been the “Daughter of John Kane a Labourer.” The cause of death was “Acute Bronchitis 5 days.” Cecelia’s aunt, Mary Ann McVeigh, of Aghalee, was present at the death and signed the death register with “her + mark.” She reported the death to the registrar, W.W. Duff, who recorded Cecelia’s death in the Lurgan Registration District on December 16, 1901. Cecelia’s death is number 451 in the register: https://tinyurl.com/bdz9kahu
Based on their names and ages in the 1911 census, I found the civil registration birth records for the five children of John and Ellen Kane at the irishgenealogy.ie website.
BIRTH OF JOHN KANE
John Kane was born in Ballystockart, County Down, on December 22, 1902. His father is John Kane, a Labourer residing in Ballystockart. John’s mother is Ellen Kane, formerly McVeigh. John Kane, the father, reported the birth to the registrar, Robert Henry, who recorded the birth in the Newtownards Registration District on January 9, 1903. John’s birth is number 394 in the register: https://tinyurl.com/3tyrvdfz
BIRTH OF MARY KANE
Mary was born in Dunleady, County Down on 2 October 1904. Her father John Kane is a Labourer residing in Dunleady. Her mother is Jessie Ellen Kane, formerly McVeigh. The person who was present at the birth and who signed the register with “her + mark,” was Catherine Richardson, of Dundonald. The registrar, H.R. Irvine, recorded Mary’s birth in the Belfast Registration District on 7 October 1904. Mary’s birth is number 197 in the register: https://tinyurl.com/2p8haz66
Catherine Richardson may have been the midwife who helped to deliver Mary.
The name Dunleady, I believe, is an alternate spelling for the townland of Dunlady, which was in the Civil Parish of Dundonald, according to the IreAtlas Townland Data Base: https://tinyurl.com/mvn5va96
A map from the townlands.ie website shows the location of Dunlady, shaded in blue, just north of Dundonald:
https://www.townlands.ie/down/castlereagh-lower/dundonald/dundonald/dun…
If you pan the map to the right, you’ll see that Belfast is just west of Dunlady, in County Down.
BIRTH OF ANNIE ELIZABETH KANE
Annie Elizabeth Kane was born in Ballyrainey, County Down on October 5, 1906. Her father is John Kane, a Labourer living in Ballyrainey. Her mother is Ellen Kane, formerly McVeigh. Annie’s father John reported her birth to the registrar, Robert Henry, who recorded the birth in the Newtownards Registration District on
October 19, 1906. Annie’s birth is number 456 in the register: https://tinyurl.com/2js9ux32
For a townlands.ie map of Ballyrainey, County Down, go to:
https://www.townlands.ie/down/castlereaghlower/dundonald/ballymaglaff/b…
By dragging the map to the lower right corner, you’ll see that Ballyrainey is just southeast of Dundonald.
BIRTH OF CELIA AGNES KANE
Cecelia Agnes Kane was born in Ballymagreehan, County Down, on 27 August 1908. Her father is John Kane, a Labourer residing in Ballymagreehan. Her mother is Ellen Kane, formerly McVeigh. John Kane reported the birth to the registrar, David Jamison, who recorded the birth in the Newtownards Registration District on 12 September 1908. Cecelia’s birth is number 263 in the register:
https://tinyurl.com/5yz66kcp
BIRTH OF CHARLES PATRICK KANE
Charles Patrick was born in Ballyrickard, County Down, on December 19, 1910. His father John Kane is a Gatekeeper living in Ballyrickard. Charles’s mother is Jesse Ellen “McVea.” John Kane reported the birth to the registrar, Robert Henry, who recorded the birth in the Newtownards Registration District on January 4, 1911. Charles Patrick’s birth is the first entry in the register at number 85: https://tinyurl.com/mr3veeje
By dragging the townlands.ie map downward, you’ll see that Ballyrickard is just south of Newtownards:
https://www.townlands.ie/down/castlereagh-lower/comber-castlereagh-lowe…
I also found the birth records of two more of John and Ellen McVeigh Kane’s children at the irishgenealogy.ie website. One birth record is for Joseph Kane, and the other is for Eileen Kane. This would be the Eileen Veronica Kane who, according to the gravestone, died on 13 May 1991 at the age of 75.
BIRTH OF JOSEPH KANE
Joseph was born in Ballyrickard, County Down, on May 9, 1913. His father is John Kane, a Gatekeeper residing in Ballyrickard. Joseph’s mother is Jesse Ellen Kane, formerly “McVey.” John Kane reported the birth to the registrar, Robert Henry, who recorded the birth in the Newtownards registration district on May 22, 1913. Joseph’s birth is number 430 in the register: https://tinyurl.com/2p96net7
BIRTH OF EILEEN KANE
Eileen Kane was born in East Street, Newtownards, on 15 February 1916. Her father is John Kane, a labourer also residing in East Street, Newtownards. Her mother is Jesse Ellen Kane, formerly McVeigh. The person who was present at the birth and who reported the birth to the registrar was Annie Wilson of Victoria Avenue, Newtownards. The registrar, David Jamison recorded Eileen’s birth in the Newtownards Registration District on 22 February 1916. See: https://tinyurl.com/2p8kurv3
A Google Map of Newtownards shows the location of East Street where the Kane family were living when Eileen was born, and also shows the location of Victoria Avenue, where Annie Wilson lived. She may have been the midwife attending the birth: https://tinyurl.com/5b8pyepb
Here is a Google Street View of East Street where it crosses Victoria Avenue in Newtownards: https://tinyurl.com/3t48p9kr
AMERICAN AND MORE IRISH RECORDS FOR JAMES MCVEIGH
Earlier in this reply you saw that Patrick and Elizabeth Garland McVeigh’s son James was baptized in the Magheralinn Catholic Parish on 8 January 1871. A note added to the baptism states that James had married Anne, whose last name appears to begin with “Luff,” and that the marriage took place in America on 29 November 1910. The notes also gives the name of the Catholic Diocese in America where the marriage took place, but the name of the diocese is hard to decipher. The spelling of the diocese looks like “Raff,” or perhaps something similar.
By 1910 James McVeigh would have been 39 years old, which means he had either married later in life, or that he had been previously married and was a widower at the time of marriage.
With James McVeigh’s marriage year of 1910 to go by, I looked for his marriage at two different websites. These are the subscription Ancestry.com website and the FamilySearch website, which is free to use after establishing an account.
I was fortunate in that I found James’s marriage transcriptions at both websites.
The transcription at Ancestry.com shows that James Mcveigh married Annie Lafferty in Monroe, New York on 24 November 1910. At the time of marriage he was 37 years old, which would have been off by 2 years. The names of his parents are Patrick Mcveigh and Eliza Garlen.
See the ancestry.com transcription below:
New York, U.S., County Marriage Records, 1847-1849, 1907-1936
Name: James Mcveigh
Gender: Male
Age: 37
Birth Date: abt 1873
Marriage Date: 24 Nov 1910
Marriage Place: Monroe, New York, USA
Father: Patrick Mcveigh
Mother: Eliza Garlen
Spouse: Annie Lafferty
Source Information
Ancestry.com. New York, U.S., County Marriage Records, 1847-1849, 1907-1936 [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2016.
Original data: Marriage Records. New York Marriages. Various New York County Clerk offices.
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The maiden name for Anne in the 1871 baptism for James would have begun with the letters “Laff,” rather than Luff.
The marriage transcription from FamilySearch gives much the same information as found in the Ancestry.com transcription, but only states the marriage took place in New York, and not specifically in Monroe, New York. It also shows that Annie is 39 years old and that her parents are William Lafferty and Elizabeth Sanders:
Marriage • New York, County Marriages, 1847-1848; 1908-1936
Name James McVeigh
Sex Male
Age 37
Birth Year (Estimated) 1873
Father's Name Patrick McVeigh
Mother's Name Eliza Garlen
Spouse's Name Annie Lafferty
Spouse's Sex Female
Spouse's Age 39
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated) 1871
Spouse's Father's Name William Lafferty
Spouse's Mother's Name Elizabeth Sanders
Marriage Date 24 Nov 1910
Marriage Place New York, United States
Marriage Place (Original) New york, United States
Event Type Marriage
Cite This Record
"New York, County Marriages, 1847-1848; 1908-1936," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XVGL-B66 : 9 March 2021), James McVeigh, 24 Nov 1910, New York, United States; citing ref. ID Vol 1 p 345, county clerk offices from various counties, New York; FHL microfilm 831,340.
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Attached to the FamilySearch marriage transcription is a copy of the original Monroe County, New York marriage register, which you can access at the following link after establishing a free account with FamilySearch:
https://tinyurl.com/863whzwb
There two facing pages of the register, containing 10 marriages. The marriage for James and Annie is at the bottom of the right-hand register page.
The marriage record gives the additional information that at the time of marriage James was living at 91 Exchange Street and that his occupation was “Barn Boss.”
Annie was living at 52 Campbell Street and that her occupation was “At Home.”
The marriage record also shows this is the second marriage for James and the first marriage for Annie, and that both James and Annie were born in Ireland.
The marriage record further shows that James and Annie obtained their marriage license on November 23, 1910, and that their place of marriage was Rochester, New York. Rochester is in Monroe County, hence the Monroe reference as the place of marriage in the Ancestry.com transcription. The witnesses to the marriage were Joseph McVeigh and Sarah McDonald.
The name of the Catholic priest who married James and Annie appears to be Y.M. Delbove.
For a Google Map of Exchange Street and Campbell Street in Rochester, see: https://tinyurl.com/2p8sythc
For Google Street Views of Exchange Street and Campbell Street, go to:
https://tinyurl.com/4pkndv3m and https://tinyurl.com/ycxawnhs
The marriage record for James and Annie shows the witnesses were Joseph McVeigh and Sarah McDonald. I hadn’t come across any information in Irish birth and baptism records that James had a brother Joseph, and so at this point in the research I didn’t know if he was Joseph’s brother, or perhaps a cousin. Likewise, Sarah McDonald may have been Annie’s sister or cousin.
Going back to the Ancestry.com website I looked for James’s in ships’ passenger lists coming into New York and Boston. I found him in the Ancestry.com collection, “New York, U.S., Arriving Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957.”
The passenger list solved the question of who Joseph McVeigh was.
James arrived in New York on board the S.S. Caledonia on 23 May 1909. The passenger list records his age as 33, placing his year of birth “abt 1876.” His age is off by 5 years, as he was born in 1871. He marital status is, “Widow.’
James’s birthplace is recorded as County Down, though his birthplace of Aghalee is just north of County Down in County Antrim. His “Last Known Residence” in Ireland is “Down.”
The passenger list also shows he departed Londonderry, and that his “Final Destination” was “Rockester,” New York. James is shown to be 5 feet and 8 inches tall, with fair hair, brown eyes, and fair complexion. Upon his arrival in New York he had $10. His nearest relative in the “Old Country,” that is, Ireland, is Wm McVeigh, who was living in Folly Hill, Aghalee, County Antrim.
The person he was to join in the U.S. was his brother, Joseph McVeigh.
A transcription of the Caledonia Ship’s Passenger List, from Ancestry.com, is below:
New York, U.S., Arriving Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957
Name: James McVeigh
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Irish
Marital status: Widow
Age: 33
Birth Date: abt 1876
Birth Place: Ireland
Other Birth Place: Down
Last Known Residence: Down, Ireland
Departure Port: Londonderry
Arrival Date: 23 May 1909
Arrival Port: New York, New York, USA
Final Destination: Rockester, New York
Height: 5 Feet, 8 Inches
Hair Color: Fair
Eye Color: Brown
Complexion: Fair
Money in Possession: $10
Person in Old Country: Wm Mc Veigh
Person in Old Country Residence: Follyhill Aghalee Antrim
Person in US: Joseph Mc Veigh
Person in US Relationship: Brother
Sibling: Joseph Mc Veigh
Ship Name: Caledonia
Source Citation
Year: 1909; Arrival: New York, New York, USA; Microfilm Serial: T715, 1897-1957; Line: 1; Page Number: 32
Source Information
Ancestry.com. New York, U.S., Arriving Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957 [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010.
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Attached to the transcription is a copy of the manifest of the S.S. Caledonia, which provides even more information, showing that James embarked for the U.S. from Liverpool, England on 7 May, 1909. James’s occupation is “Labourer.” Traveling with James is 7 years old Elizabeth McVeigh, whose last permanent residence, like James’s, was County Down. The manifest also shows that James’s passage to America was paid for by his brother and the Elizabeth’s passage was paid for by her uncle, which means that Elizabeth would be James’s daughter. James’s brother and Elizabeth’s uncle is Joseph McVeigh of 52 Campbell Street, Rochester, which, as you will see, is the address for Joseph and his family in the 1910 census.
The manifest also shows that Elizabeth’s complexion and hair were fair and her eyes blue. James’s place of birth is given as County Down, and Elizabeth’s as County Antrim.
A copy of the original manifest for the Caledonia spans two pages and can be found at: https://tinyurl.com/2p84afyb and https://tinyurl.com/2mkaedte
I don’t know if you will need a subscription to Ancestry.com to access the S.S. Caledonia manifest. James and Elizabeth are the first two passengers recorded in the manifest.
In case you can’t download the S.S. Caledonia manifest at Ancestry.com, it alternatively can be downloaded from the free FamilySearch website. You’ll have to log in to the site to access the manifest off two links:
https://tinyurl.com/5b8wxsv6 and https://tinyurl.com/2p8f5by3
Going back to the irishgenealogy.ie I looked for Elizabeth McVeigh’s birth record for the years 1899 to 1905, but did not find it. I also wanted to see if I could identify James McVeigh’s marriage in Ireland, but without success. I would need to know his first wife’s first and maiden names to do a successful search.
At both the irishgenealogy.ie as well as the FMP websites I searched for Joseph McVeigh’s birth and baptism records but did not find them, unfortunately.
THE 1910 CENSUS
As noted above, James and Elizabeth McVeigh arrived in the United States on the S.S. Caledonia on 23 May 1909, having left from Liverpool, England on 15 May 1909.
I looked for them in the 1910 census at Anncestry.com to see if they were living with James’s brother Joseph at 52 Campbell Street, which is Joseph’s address recorded in the Caledonia ship’s passenger. I didn’t find James or Elizabeth in the 1910 census in Rochester or anywhere else in New York, but I did locate 42 year old Joseph McVeigh, his 39 year old wife Sarah, their four children and two boarders living at 52 Campbell Street in Rochester. Joseph’s occupation is “Bartender,” in a “Saloon.” He was born in Ireland. The census also shows that Joseph and Elizabeth had been married for 22 years as of 1910, owned their home with a mortgage, and that Joseph had not been out of work for the previous year.
Being married for 22 years in 1910 means that Joseph and Sarah were married in 1888.
One of the boarders in the McVeigh household is 25 year old Anne Laverty. This is actually Annie Lafferty, who would marry James McVeigh. In the November 1910 marriage record for James McVeigh and Annie Lafferty, Annie’s address is 52 Campbell Street.
Below is a transcription of the Joseph and Sarah McVeigh household in the 1910 census:
1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Joseph M Mcveigh
Age in 1910: 42
Birth Date: 1868
[1868]
Birthplace: Ireland
Home in 1910: Rochester Ward 11, Monroe, New York, USA
Street: Campbell St
House Number: 52
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1892
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Sarah Mcveigh
Father's Birthplace: Ireland
Mother's Birthplace: Ireland
Native Tongue: English
Occupation: Bartender
Industry: Saloon
Employer, Employee or Other: Wage Earner
Home Owned or Rented: Own
Home Free or Mortgaged: Mortgaged
Farm or House: House
Naturalization Status: Naturalized
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Years Married: 22
Out of Work: N
Number of Weeks Out of Work: 0
Household Members, Age, Relationship
Joseph M Mcveigh, 42, Head
Sarah Mcveigh, 39, Wife
John P Mcveigh, 20, Son
Elizabeth A Mcveigh, 18, Daughter
Sarah E Mcveigh, 16, Daughter
John F Mcveigh, 11, Son
John O'Rourke, 27, Boarder
Anne Laverty, 25, Boarder
Source Citation
Year: 1910; Census Place: Rochester Ward 11, Monroe, New York; Roll: T624_991; Page: 9A; Enumeration District: 0115; FHL microfilm: 1375004
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1910 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2006.
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A copy of the original 1910 census for the McVeigh household can be accessed from the FamilySearch website at: https://tinyurl.com/ypsmm5b9
The census shows that Joseph’s wife Sarah, and two of their four children, 20 year old John P., and 18 year old Elizabeth A., were born in Ireland. The census shows that Elizabeth was working at the Kodak Manufacturing Company, which is still in business in Rochester.
The two younger McVeigh children, 16 year old Sarah E., and 11 year old John F., were born in New York.
The census also shows that Joseph, Sarah, John and Elizabeth, arrived in the United States in 1892. The census also shows that Joseph is designated as “Na,” which means by 1910 he was a naturalized American citizen.
The one other boarder in the household is 27 year old John. J. O’Rourke, who was born in Ireland and was a laborer on the railroad. He too is a naturalized American citizen, having arrived in the U.S. in 1906.
The census further shows that Annie Laverty arrived in the U.S. in 1906, and was employed as a tailoress in a clothing factory. She was single at the time the census was taken in Campbell Street on 20 April 1910.
THE MARRIAGE OF SARAH E. MCVEIGH
At FamilySearch I located the marriage transcription for Joseph and Sarah’s daughter, 21 year old Sarah E. McVeigh. Sarah and William E. Freed were married in New York on 24 June 1915. Sarah’s father is shown to be Joseph McVeigh. Her mother’s first and maiden names are Sarah McDonald.
William’s parents are William Freed and Mary A. O’Connor. See the transcription below:
New York, County Marriages, 1847-1848; 1908-1936
Name Sarah E. McVeigh
Age 21
Sex F
Birth Year (Estimated) 1894
Father's Name Joseph McVeigh
Mother's Name Sarah McDonald
Sarah E. McVeigh's Spouse William E. Freed
Sex Male
Age 24
Birth Year (Estimated) 1891
Father's Name Wm. Freed
Mother's Name Mary A. O'Connor
Marriage Date 24 Jun 1915
Marriage Place New York, United States
Marriage Place (Original) New York, United States
Event Type Marriage
"New York, County Marriages, 1847-1848; 1908-1936," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XVPR-2WK :
9 March 2021), Sarah E. McVeigh in entry for William E. Freed, 24 Jun 1915, New York, United States; citing ref. ID 1020, county clerk offices from various counties, New York; FHL microfilm 831,343.
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A copy of the original marriage record for Sarah and William can be found at the FamilySearch link at: https://tinyurl.com/5n7ewk8k
The marriage is last entry on the left-hand register page, number 1020.
The original record shows the marriage took place in Rochester, was the first marriage for both. The record further shows that Sarah, the bride, was living at 52 Campbell Street at the time of the marriage, and was employed as a “Dress Maker.”
Other information in the record shows that Sarah McVeigh and William Freed obtained their marriage license on June 23, 1915. The clergyman who married them was J.M. Ball. The witnesses to the marriage were Thos. (Thomas) E. Wykins and E. McVeigh, which I take to refer to Sarah’s older sister, Elizabeth.
THE MARRIAGE OF JOSEPH MCVEIGH AND SARAH MCDONALD
Returning to the irishgenealogy.ie website I found the marriage record for Joseph McVeigh and Sarah McDonald. They were married in the Roman Catholic Chapel of Aghagallon, County Antrim, on 16 September 1888. Joseph McVeigh is 28 years old at the time of marriage. Sarah’s age is just recorded as “full,” meaning 21 years old or older. Joseph had been a bachelor and Sarah a spinster at the time of marriage. Joseph and Sarah had the same occupation. They were weavers.
At the time of marriage Joseph was living in Aghalee and Sarah in what looks like Tallyballydonnell, but which is actually Tullyballydonnell. See the Ireatlas Townland Data Base at: https://tinyurl.com/mtzm6pd8
The marriage record shows that Joseph’s father is Patrick McVeigh and Sarah’s father, Thomas McDonald. Both fathers are weavers.
The priest who married Joseph and Sarah was A. Macauley. The witnesses to the marriage were John Hanna and Lizzie McVeigh. The marriage was recorded in the Lurgan Registration District by the registrar, Francis William Robert Scott on 14 September 1888. The marriage is number 70 in the register: https://tinyurl.com/76vjpfwf
I also found the Ireland civil registration birth records for the two oldest children of Joseph and Sarah. John Patrick McVeigh was born in the townland of Tallyballydonnell on November 10, 1889. Elizabeth Ann was born in the townland of Drumaleet, Antrim on September 29, 1891. In both birth records the occupation of their father Joseph is Weaver, and the maiden name of their mother Sarah is McDonald. The birth records for John and Elizabeth can be accessed from:
https://tinyurl.com/yfaxmr2s and https://tinyurl.com/3uptha53
Going back to American records I next wanted to see if I could find James McVeigh, his wife Annie, and James’s daughter Elizabeth living in Rochester, New York, in the 1920 census.
I located 48 year old James, his 49 year old wife Annie, 18 year old daughter Elizabeth, and a 39 year old boarder named John Garland in the household. The address of the household is 132 Orange Street, Rochester. The census enumerator came by the McVeigh household on 13 January 1920.
John Garland may have been James’s younger cousin. Everyone on the household was born in Ireland and everyone was a naturalized American citizen. The census shows that James arrived in the U.S. in 1909, and that Annie and Elizabeth arrived in 1907, but we know from the S.S. Caledonia passenger list that James’s daughter Elizabeth arrived with him in 1909.
The 1920 census shows that James is a foreman in the Barn industry. No occupation is recorded for his wife Annie. James’s daughter Elizabeth is a camera inspector with Kodak. John Garland is a shipping clerk with a biscuit company.
You can download the census from FamilySearch at: https://tinyurl.com/56n4838h
The McVeigh household begins on census line 14.
THE MARRIAGE OF ELIZABETH F. MCVEIGH
The 24 Jun 1915 marriage for Joseph McVeigh’s daughter Sarah, shows that the full name of Sarah’s mother was Sarah McDonald. Knowing this I wanted to see if I could find the marriage record for James McVeigh’s daughter Elizabeth, to see if the marriage record gave the first and last name of her mother. Her father James’s wife Annie, would have been Sarah’s stepmother.
I found 23 year old Elizabeth’s marriage record at the FamilySearch website.. She married 26 year old Harold J. Bieck in Rochester on 27 October 1925. Sarah’s father is James McVeigh and her mother Elizabeth Murray. This is the information I had been looking for.
Harold Bieck’s parents are Martin Bieck and Margaret O’Brien. See the FamilySearch marriage transcription below:
New York, County Marriages, 1847-1848; 1908-1936
Name Elizabeth F MC Veigh
Age 23
Birth Year (Estimated) 1902
Sex F
Father James MC Veigh
Mother Elizabeth Murray
Husband Harold J Bieck
Name Harold J Bieck
Sex Male
Age 26
Birth Year (Estimated) 1899
Father's Name Martin Bieck
Mother's Name Margaret O'Brien
Marriage Date 27 Oct 1925
Marriage Place Rochester, Monroe County, New York, United States
Marriage Place (Original) Monroe, New york, United States
Event Type Marriage
Page 001888
Cite This Record
"New York, County Marriages, 1847-1848; 1908-1936," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KZ94-VK2 :
9 March 2021), Elizabeth F MC Veigh in entry for Harold J Bieck, 27 Oct 1925, Monroe, New York, United States; citing ref. ID , county clerk offices from various counties, New York; FHL microfilm 831,357.
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A copy of the original marriage license and marriage record can be found at:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939Z-1C9S-M3?i=500&cc=16184…
The marriage record for Elizabeth and John is the last entry, right-hand register page. At the time of marriage Elizabeth was employed with the “Camera Works,” and living at 69 Austin Street. The “Camera Works” is a reference to Kodak.
John Bieck was employed as a “Clerk.” His address was 367 Electric Avenue. The priest who married Elizabeth and John was Charles F. Shea. The witnesses to the marriage were Lewis W. Blanchard and Marguerite Fehrenback.
The marriage record further shows that Elizabeth’s parents, James McVeigh and Elizabeth Murray were born in Ireland and that John’s parents. Martin Bieck and Margaret O’Brien were born in the U.S.
The license to marry was issued on 26 October 1925.
With the information from the marriage record I looked for the marriage of James McVeigh and Elizabeth Murray at the irishgenealogy.ie website and found it.
James McVeigh and Lizzie Murray were married in the Roman Catholic Chapel of St. Peter’s, Belfast, on 25 December 1900. At the time of the marriage James was of “full” age. Lizzie’s age looks like it is recorded as “Do,” which means ditto, or “full,” the same age as James, but I’m not sure about that.
I was surprised to see that James was a “Widower,” at the time of marriage. Lizzie was a “Spinster.” James’s occupation is “Van Driver,” and Lizzie a “Servt,” that is, a servant. At the time of marriage James was living in what looks like Alese Street West and Lizzie in Derby Place. James’s father is Patrick McVeigh, a farmer. Lizzie’s father is John Murray, also a farmer. The name of the priest who married James and Lizzie is Patrick Darragh.
The witnesses to the marriage are Thomas Bradley and Kate Lipton.
The marriage was recorded in the Belfast Registration District by the Deputy Registrar whose name looks like C. Lupane. You can access the marriage record at: https://tinyurl.com/msrwsh5c
The Roman Catholic Chapel of St. Peter’s may be a reference to St. Peter’s Cathedral, which is located in St. Peter’s Square North, near Divis Street, west of the Belfast City Centre. I couldn’t access the website for St. Peter’s Cathedral as a new website is being developed, but according to Wikipedia, the cathedral was open for worship on 14 October 1866:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Peter%27s_Cathedral,_Belfast
I looked for an Alese Street West and a Derby Place in Belfast at Google Maps but could not find these locations. I don’t know if Derby Place is the present day North Derby Street in Belfast.
Going to the 1901 census however, I discovered that 28 year old James and 20 year old Lizzie McVeigh were the “Residents of a house 44 in Oranmore Street (Falls Ward, Antrim).” James’s occupation was “Vanman.” He could read and write but could not speak the Irish language.
No occupation is recorded for Lizzie, who could also read and write. The census shows that James and Lizzie were Roman Catholic, and that James was from County Antrim, and Lizzie from County Cavan. See the 1901 census transcription:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Falls_Ward/Oran…
A copy of the original 1901 census for James and Lizzie can be found at: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000347792/
I also found the birth of Elizabeth McVeigh, daughter of James McVeigh and Elizabeth Murray McVeigh at the irishgenealogy.ie website. Elizabeth was born in 44 Ornanmore Street, Belfast, on 4 December 1901. Her father James is employed as a “Van driver,” Elizabeth reported the birth of her daughter to the registrar, J. Kennedy, who recorded the birth in the Belfast Registration District on 20th December 1901. See the birth record at: https://tinyurl.com/yj849m7b
I didn’t find the birth records of any more children of James McVeigh and Elizabeth/Lizzie Murray.
I now wanted to see if I could uncover the death record for Elizabeth’s mother. Elizabeth, or Lizzie. She would have died between the time her daughter was born in December 1901, and the time her daughter Elizabeth and her husband James left Ireland for America in 1909. I didn’t find her death record in Belfast. I also looked for her death record in other counties, but without success. There is the possibility that I missed finding her death record, or that her death was never reported to a registrar in the county and Registration District where she died.
I then looked for, but couldn’t identify the marriage record for James McVeigh, prior to his marriage to Lizzie Murray in 1900. I looked for his marriage between the time he was 18 years old in 1889, and December 25, 1900, the date of his marriage to Lizzie Murray in Belfast.
I couldn’t be certain of Lizzie’s age recorded in the 1900 marriage record, but in the 1901 census she is recorded as being 20 years old. Ages in the 1901 as well as 1911 census enumeration are often inaccurate, and so I didn’t know if her age of 20 in 1901 was correct.
The marriage record for James McVeigh and Lizzie Murray shows that Lizzie was from County Cavan and that her father was John Murray, but without knowing the first and maiden names of Lizzie’s mother, I wouldn’t be able to determine with any certainty, if I found the correct birth record for her.
MARRIAGE OF JOHN MCVEIGH AND SUSAN MOORE
According to his Glenavy and Killead Catholic Parish baptism record John McVeigh, son of Patrick Mcveigh and Elizabeth Garland, was baptized in the Glenavy and Killead Catholic Parish in 1859.
I found what I believe to be John’s civil registration marriage record showing he married Susan Moore in the Roman Catholic Chapel of Magheralin, County Down, on November 25 1888. At the time of marriage both John and Susan were of “full” age. John had been a bachelor and Susan a spinster. John’s occupation is “Labourer.” His residence at the time of marriage, Aghalee, is crossed through and replaced the townland of Ballynenaghten, County Down. His father is Patrick McVeigh, a “Weaver,” who was still living at the time of the marriage.
No occupation is recorded for Susan. Her residence is also Ballynenaghten. Her father is Peter Moore, a “Ploughman,” who was still alive.
The priest who married John and Susan was John Quail, P.P. The initials P.P. stand for Parish Priest. The witnesses to the marriage were Arthur Moore and Jane French. Arthur and Jane signed the marriage register with “his + mark,” and “her + mark.” John McVeigh signed the register with “his + mark.” The marriage was recorded in the Lurgan Registration District on 29 November 1888 by the registrar whose name may be James Brownrill. The marriage is number 89 in the register: https://tinyurl.com/2c9vhjyf
A civil registration birth record shows that John and Susan Moore McVeigh had a son named John Edward who was born in Ballynenaghten on November 14 1889. At the time of the birth, the father John McVeigh’s residence was the “United States America.” His occupation was “Labourer.” The person who was present at the birth and who reported the birth to the registrar was Catherine Lavery, of Ballynenachten, who signed the birth register with “her + mark.” The registrar, F.W.R. Scott recorded John’s birth in the Lurgan Registration District on 18 November 1888. John’s birth is the first entry in the register at number 150: https://tinyurl.com/5h22e69r
The IreAtlas Townland Data Base shows that the townland of “Ballynanaghten” was in the Civil Parish of Aghalee, County Antrim: https://tinyurl.com/3wjsscr4
I didn’t locate Ballynanaghten on a Google Map, but you can see the location on a townlands.ie link at: https://tinyurl.com/2p86aef8
If you decrease the size of the townlands.ie map you’ll see that Aghalee is northwest of Ballynanaghten, going up the Soldierstown Road, also designated as the B105 road.
Because John’s 1889 birth record shows his father was in the United States of America at the time of the birth, I suspected the father went to Rochester, New York.
This proves to be the case as I found 41 year old John “McVey,” his 27 year old wife Susana, and three of their children in the 1900 census. Their address is Frank Street, Rochester. John was employed as a Laborer on the R.R., that is, the Rail Road. The census shows that John was born in 1859 and Susana in 1872, and also shows that John and Susana had been married for 11 years when the 1900 census was taken on 16 June. The census also shows that John and Susana had 3 children with all 3 children still alive and in the household.
These children are 10 year old John E., born in Ireland; 8 year old Margaret, born in New York; and 6 year old William, also born in New York. John’s year of Immigration into the U.S. is 1889, having been in the U.S. for 11 years. He is also shown to be “Na,” or a naturalized American citizen. The census taker made an error about the immigration of Susana and her son John, recording that they arrived in the U.S. in 1881 and had been in the U.S. for 9 years. The census taker should have recorded 1891 as their year of immigration if they had been in the U.S. for 9 years by 1900.
You can access the 1900 census for the McVey family at the FamilySearch website after logging in at: https://tinyurl.com/yc3p36t2
The McVey family begins on line 63 of the census.
ELIZABETH A. MCVEIGH AND WILLIAM R. BELL MARRIAGE
Patrick and Elizabeth Garland McVeigh’s daughter Elizabeth was born in 1866.
I looked for a marriage record for her in Ireland but didn’t find it. I also looked for a death record but again without result. I didn’t find Elizabeth in the 1901 Ireland census either, and so I thought it possible that like her siblings, she left Ireland for the U.S. and settled in Rochester, New York.
I found her marriage index at Ancestry.com’s, “New York State, Marriage Index, 1881-1967,” which shows that Elizabeth A. McVeigh and William R. Bell were married in Rochester on 15 June 1898:
1898 Elizabeth McVeigh and William R. Bell
New York State, Marriage Index, 1881-1967
Name: Elizabeth A McVeigh
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 15 Jun 1898
Marriage Place: Rochester, New York, USA
Spouse: William R Bell
Certificate Number: 10026
Source Citation
New York State Department of Health; Albany, NY, USA; New York State Marriage Index
Source Information
Ancestry.com. New York State, Marriage Index, 1881-1967 [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2017.
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I didn’t find a copy of the original marriage record for Elizabeth and William at either Ancestry.com or FamilySearch, but did find them in the 1900 census at both websites. The census shows that 37 year old William R. Bell and 31 year old Lizzie A. Bell were living at 11 Plover Street in Rochester. The census shows that William was born in Ireland in October of 1862 and that Lizzie was born in Ireland in March of 1868, but she was actually born on 23 February 1866, according to her birth record noted earlier. The 1900 census also shows that both William and Lizzie arrived in the United States in 1888 and had been living in the U.S. for 12 years. William is shown to be a naturalized American citizen who is employed as “Distiller.” The census further notes that William and Lizzie had been married for 2 years and in that time had one child born to them, but that child was not living.
William and Lizzie Bell are found on lines 10 and 11 of the census which comes from the FamilySearch website: https://tinyurl.com/37amn2tv
For a Google Map showing the location of Plover Street, off Emerson Street in Rochester, see: https://tinyurl.com/muwzexbc
Here is a Google Street View of Plover Street in Rochester: https://tinyurl.com/2p8v2bz7
CHARLES MCVEIGH
Patrick and Elizabeth Garland McVeigh’s son Charles was born in 1880, according to his birth record. I could not identify Charles in any Irish marriage or death records, or in the 1901 and 1911 census enumerations in Ireland.
I also looked for Charles in census returns for Rochester, New York, but did not find him. On the chance that he may have gone to England I looked for Charles in the 1901 and 1911 census, but found no one named Charles McVeigh who was born in Ireland circa 1880.
AN OBSERVATION
In going over all the McVeigh records in this reply, I notice one name that appears with the surname McVeigh in either a birth, baptism, or marriage record. This name is Lavery.
For instance, in the 1866 Magheralinn Catholic Parish baptism for Patrick and Elizabeth Garland McVeigh’s daughter Elizabeth, Arthur Lavery is recorded as her godfather.
In the 1873 Magheralinn Catholic Parish baptism for Teresa (Jesse) McVeigh, her godparents are John and Martha Lavery.
In the 1889 birth record for John McVeigh and Susan Moore’s son John, Catherine Lavery was present at the birth and reported the birth to the registrar.
In the 1900 marriage for William McVeigh and Mary Ann Doyle, one of the witnesses to the marriage was Lizzie Lavery.
Lizzie Lavery was also recorded as a witness in the 1901 marriage of Jesse McVeigh and John Kane.
These records are an indication the McVeigh and Lavery families were either related by blood or were close friends through the years.
CONCLUSION
The irishgenealogy.ie website does not have birth, marriage, or death records for the six counties of Northern Ireland past the year 1921. Northern Ireland split from what is now the Republic of Ireland under the Government of Ireland Act of 1921.
If you do not have the death record for John Kane, who died in 1941, and Jesse McVeigh Kane who died in 1964, you can order them from the General Register Office of Northern Ireland, also known as GRONI. For more information go to the GRONI website links at the following:
https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/search-gronis-online-records#toc-0
https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/services/go-groni-online
With Kind Regards,
Dave Boylan
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irishgenealogy.ie
Find My Past
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Google Street Views
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glenavyhistory.com
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/
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townlands.ie
Ordnance Survey Maps
https://www.aghagallonandballinderryparish.ie/church/st-patricks-church…
workhouses.org.uk
Ancestry.com
FamilySearch
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Wikipedia
