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Patrick O'Leary married to Ellen Gaharin in Brisbane,  Australia on 9 March 1898.

He was probably born in March 1859 and died in 1918.  His parents,  Denis Leary, a farmer, and Ellen Hallahane lived in the Scrahan / Sranaviddoge townland in Murragh and had other children (Johanna, Mary, Julia, Margaret, Daniel, Hanora, Timothy).

Will I be able to discover how he emigrated?  I've looked at quite a few passenger lists but none provide enough information to reliably identify a solo individual it seems to me.

 

Dan

Wednesday 11th Oct 2023, 01:00AM

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  • HI Dan, 
    The one I found has the same birth year, this was a hospital record.
    He was 21, admitted on the 16th Feb 1880 and discharged on the 13th March 1880.
    It does say that he had been in Adelaide one year, that would be 1879c for travel, came on the ship called Garonne. 
    Is that your Patrick?
    Did he have a brother......... Thomas?
    This Thomas was also in the Hospital in 1882.

    My relatives landed in Adelaide, one stayed there, one went to Sydney and the other went to Queensland. 

    Margot

    Wednesday 11th Oct 2023, 09:13AM
  • Wow Margot, the Ireland xo team leaves no stone unturned!  Hospital records - I'm left wondering how you found that.

    I'll add it to my possible list. It's at least as good as my next-best find of an arrival in Rockhampton, Queensland in September 1885 aboard Duke of Buccleuch of farm labourers Patrick (29 years) and James (23). No other details.  By that time the Suez route which opened in 1869) was a common route to Queensland and Sydney via the Torres Strait and the growing centres on the North Queensland coast.

    My only other real clue is that Patrick married 20-year-old Ellen Gaharin, from an established Irish family in what is now Lismore Shire in northern New South Wales.  It's 130 miles from Brisbane to Lismore, so there is yet another story.

    Thank you for your find!  I guess there may never be a way of verifying either, and there's no living ancestor with a story to tell on the topic. 

    Dan

     

    Wednesday 11th Oct 2023, 09:45PM
  • Addendum to the above and to answer your question... no Patrick does not seem to have a brother Thomas,  nor a James (per my Rockhampton record).  He did have a brother Timothy who emigrated to Massachusetts I've been told but not confirmed by me yet.

    Thank you again!

    Dan

    Thursday 12th Oct 2023, 12:01AM
  • http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/Teadies/Srannavid…; I found this 1901 census record for a Denis O'Leary   ( Residents of a house 10 in Srannaviddoge  (Teadies, Cork) and I wonder if he could be your relative. I noticed he is a widower so I checked and found a death cert for Ellen Leary , Murragh, Bandon, Co. Cork   https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_retu…, perhaps there is a connection. This Ellen died in 1880 aged 44 years.

    Eileen

    Thursday 12th Oct 2023, 12:06AM
  • Eileen

    Thursday 12th Oct 2023, 12:30AM
  • Julia 17/6/1865

    Eileen

    Thursday 12th Oct 2023, 12:32AM
  • https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_retur… Birth cert for a Daniel  26/9/1871 (I believe Ellen's maiden name is incorrect on this document as all other details match Julia's cert)

    Eileen

    Thursday 12th Oct 2023, 12:38AM
  • Thank you Eileen, I think all of those finds are right.

    I must tell you I grieve for that Ellen.  Born in 1835, she survives the Great Hunger,  marries in 1858,  first child a year later - the Patrick I'm seeking information about,   Another child in 1861 and others in 1863, 1865, 1869, and 1871, then twins in 1873.  She dies about seven years later aged just 44 years.  Sometime, not too long after all of that,  Patrick leaves for Australia never to return or see family again, and he dies from injuries in an freak accident in the bush (as we say), in a sparsely populated hamlet a hundred miles from the coast and two days in a buggy from a hospital.  I know there are more harrowing stories but researching family history can be challenging in many ways. Incidentally, I suspect there's another child to be found in that 1865 - 1869 'gap' as I can find a reference to a sister, Kate, living in her married brother's house in 1911 census.

    Again, many thanks for your efforts. Your volunteering is so helpful to so many of us who live across the world.

     

    Dan

    Thursday 12th Oct 2023, 06:22AM
  • Honora and Timothy were the twins
    2165467.pdf (irishgenealogy.ie)

    Are you in contact with anyone in the USA?
    I see 17 plus trees. 

     

    Margot

    Thursday 12th Oct 2023, 12:05PM
  • Dan, researching your family is a mixed bag, it is amazing to find out who your relatives are, where they came from, who they married and the children they had but equally it is heartbreaking to find out the harsh lives they led, the poverty, illness and death at such tender ages. But you owe it to yourself and the generations to come after you to keep the memory of your ancestors and more than anything you owe it to the ancestors themselves. I have found in my own journey that my gran uncles died in the first year of their lives in a workhouse because their mother died in childbirth, sadly even their own brothers and sister died as elderly people without knowing they even existed. But they live on in memory just as your own family will now and be proud of them because they were amazing people of their time. Light a candle to honour them, they asked so little in life but gave so much , you keep the connection by remembering them.

    Eileen

    Thursday 12th Oct 2023, 01:55PM
  • https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_retur…; Birth of Kate   27/2/1878   I checked when you mentioned a Kate. The irishgenealogy.ie  is a free website where you can check births/marriages and deaths, just sign up and away you go.

    Eileen

    Thursday 12th Oct 2023, 02:11PM
  • Copy of 1901 Census,  note the two griffin children , I found the Marriage record for Hannah Leary and Patrick Griffin dated 18/10/1887  

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_re…

    Residents of a house 10 in Srannaviddoge (Teadies, Cork)

    Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion
    OLeary Denis 56 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic
    OLeary Daniel 24 Male Son Roman Catholic
    OLeary Annie 22 Female Daughter Roman Catholic
    Griffin Annie 12 Female Niece Roman Catholic
    Griffin Mary Ellen 9 Female Niece

     

    Eileen

    Thursday 12th Oct 2023, 03:00PM
  • https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_re…; Marriage of Julia O'Leary and Felix O'Neill  27/1/1898

    Eileen

    Thursday 12th Oct 2023, 03:08PM
  • Thank you so much Eileen - I'll have a think about your findings - a little confused at the moment. Thank you too for your wisdom on the duty and rewards of family history research. I found that very sustaining.

    And Margot, thank you too.  I do have a note that Timothy Leary (Patrick's younger brother) went to Cambridge, Massachusetts and married Ellen Looney. I'm yet to look into that and have no links at present to tell you about.

    If you have any suggestions on how to research Patrick's transport to Queensland I would be grateful.

     

    Again, many thanks ladies - very much appreciated. You are making the world a better place.

     

    Dan 

    Friday 13th Oct 2023, 07:30AM
  • Margot,  could you share the link to Patrick Leary in a hospital in South Australia,  please?  I'll note it as a possibility and it may come in handy in the future.  Many thanks.

     

    Best wishes,

    Dan

    Friday 13th Oct 2023, 09:27PM

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