Callens/Collins and Boyle

Patrick:

Both surnames are/were very common in Ireland. In the mid-19th century, Boyle was predominately a Donegal surname and Collins predominantly a Cork surname. However, both names were found in every county in Ireland. It would be a mammoth task to take the Griffiths data from the mid-19th century and sort by parish and match up the results. You might have 100 parishes with both Collins and Boyle.

Did Edward and Susannah emigrate or stay in Ireland?

Have you tested your DNA?

Roger McDonnell

Thank you for responding and also for the good questions.

Collins Arriving Passenger and Crew Lists Ancestry.com_.pdfYes on DNA. AncestryDNA has pinned me in South Donegal. 

Working Y-111 has several Matches but nothing conclusive; likely those Matches many more gens back.

Ed and Susan were married prior to emigration; came from port of Derry to NYC and then to farm in Ohio where they stayed. 

The ship list has Callens (10 in total all listed together), Ed Boyle w Susan, then several Rogers, Gallaghers whose lastnames also appear on nearby farms in Ohio. It is beginning to look like a whole community got up and left together in 1829!

Patrick:

RC church records for Co. Donegal are basically non-existent pre-1840 so there won't be any church records.

I have also taken a Y-DNA test-111 but it is not very helpful to me and as you indicated the connections go back to the 1700s. The general Ancestry DNA test and matches are more beneficial.

Roger

Thanks again, Roger. I would presume that not all the Boyles came over, as there is only Ed B on the boat. However, there were a lot of Callens/Collins, so perhaps they represent the whole 'clan'? If not, then other Callens/Collins would remain there in Donegal and perhaps create records we can find today and speculate from there. Are there RC records 1840-forwards? Where does on look for such? Are there land records 1800-ish where I might find their farms?

Patrick:

The Griffiths Valuation for Co. Donegal dates to around 1857. When you look at the head of household listings, there are 19 Callan families and 66 Collins families. The records are generally for parishes on the east side of Co. Donegal. The Griffiths is available on the free site askaboutireland.ie   

Church records are best found on subscription sites like Roots Ireland. There are less than 100 Callan baptismal records. Civil registration started in 1864 so there are also civil birth records for Callans. Civil records are available on the free site www.irishgenealogy.ie  However, you can't search for all Callan births in Donegal. You have to search by registration district. 

The 1901 census only shows seven Callan households in Co. Donegal in the 1901 census.  http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/

Let me know how I can assist further.

Roger