hello im looking for some info if possible of Ellen Judge and husband Michael Cawley, ive been checking the marriage records of them but cant find any. I do believe they would of married round about the early 1900's reason for this is their son Michael Cawley who i believe could be their 1st son due to father name was born 1 September 1909 at Massbrook Co Mayo, i will provide a pic of his birth cert and 2nd pic is of the info when you click on the irish geneology before u check the image. Any help would be much appreciated
snowfrill
Wednesday 18th May 2022, 04:31PMMessage Board Replies
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snowfrill:
I can't find the marriage record either but it was likely in 1904. Michael Cawley was married before to a Mary O'Donnell in 1899. They had a son Patrick in 1901. Mary died in 1904 after labor. I could not find a birth/baptismal or death record for the child. Bridget Cawley was born in January 1905 to Michael Cawley and Ellen Judge followed by other children. See links below.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Roger McDonnell
eighth record Patrick Cawley birth 1901 mother Mary O'Donnell
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_retur…
third record 1899 marriage to Mary O'Donnell
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_re…
1901 census Massbrook South http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Mayo/Addergoole/Massbr…
last record death of Mary Cawley
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_retu…
third record birth of Bridget Cawley January 1905
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_retur…
1911 census http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Mayo/Addergoole/Massbr…
Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
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ty so much Roger i did earlier today go looking for Mary O'Donnell 1901 census under Michael Cawley also her death cert as thought that more than likely death would of been due to child birth n found it i did find the 1911 census a few hrs after posting this and have updated my research only question i have is according to the death cert of Mary Cawley she was 35 and husband is Peter Cawley not Michael Cawley yet according to the 1901 census she was only 25, i know the census can be a few yrs out but considering she died 3yrs after that census surely wouldnt be as much as that wrong. Also the 1911 census shows that Michael Cawley had been married to Ellen 7yrs so that would be round abt 1904 they got married obviously census yrs can be out, what do you think?
snowfrill
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snowfrill:
I made a mistake with the death record. Did not notice Peter Cawley as husband. Unfortunately, there are no other Mary Cawley death records from 1901-1904 in the Castlebar registration district.
Roger
Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
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no worries Roger we all make mistakes no ones perfect, these things will happen ty so very much for helping hopefully someone will be able to help me with regards Ellen Judge
snowfrill
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Hi Snowfrill,
My name is Tom Judge. I spent some time looking for my Irish Judge's and was able to make a onnection to Leitrim and Roscommon. I do not know of any connections to the name Cawley, but when I searched for matches on Ancestry, I found a few in the 4th-6th cousin range with a connection to my fathers side of the family. Do you know if your Judge's have any roots in LEitrim or Roscommon?
Thanks,
Tom
Thomas Judge
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snowfrill:
Here are two leads on a birth record for Ellen Judge.
see fourth record 1866 https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_retur…
see last record 1869 https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_retur…
Roger
Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
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ty so much Thomas im thinking now is the letter J in judge actually a letter L so would therefore make her surname Ludge not Judge reason im saying this is i ended up getting some hints on my ancestry site here is 3 photos of the hints 1st is of 1 of the children Bridget Cawley i will also attach a photo of the birth cert i have, 2nd is of the another child Michael Cawley confirmation record a photo of his birth cert already attached above n 3rd is of her funeral details so 4 photos i will attach
snowfrill
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just going by the surname on the birth certs i would say its defiantly a letter J not a leter L what do you think
snowfrill
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found Ellen Judge birth cert here is a pic of it, her father was Pat Judge born about 1841 and mother was Bridget Devaney born about 1855 so any help would still be very much appreciated
snowfrill
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snowfrill:
This family lived in Ballintemple townland in Meelick civil parish and Massbrook is in Addergoole parish. Meelick is about three parishes east of Addergoole. Possible.
Roger
Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
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i know n yes it was possible as they used horse n carts then to get around n would go over the fields to get to one another
snowfrill