Condon / Mackey Familes : Ballylanders

Jen:

I searched the subscription site Roots Ireland and there were two William Condon baptismal records in Ballylanders with the same parents: William Condon and Mary O'Donnell. The first record was May 27 1846 and the second record was April 28 1847. My guess is that the first William died young. There was also a sister Mary baptized in April 1849. The 1881 marriage record showed William as age 31 which would mean 1850 year of birth but likely he adjusted his age a few years. Did not find a marriage record for the parents.

I was not able to locate a baptismal record for Bridget Mackey with father Edmond/Edward in Ballylanders or anywhere in Co. Limerick.

I also did not find a baptismal record(s) or civil birth records for sons William and Edward.

Roger

Thanks so much for the additional info!  I wonder then if Edward Mackey and his family moved to Co. Limerick from another place in Ireland.  Is there any record of the address of either family in Ballylanders that you can see?  Really appreciate your help.

Jen

Also can you advise the best place to look up passenger lists from Ireland to the US?  Bridget's arrival year is noted on the 1900 Census as 1881, but the 1910 Census lists as 1886.  Her husband William never shows on any US census- so must have died before 1900- not sure if in Ireland or the US.  (I've had an ancestry.com subscription before but couldn't locate it there)

Jen:

Records for ships leaving Ireland are rare. 

The 1850 Griffiths Valuations head of household listing for Ballylanders civil parish https://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths/limerick/ballylanders.htm  shows a William Condon in Cullane North. Could be your ancestor.

Roger

Bridget Mackey was a neice of Fr Mackey,

William Condon came back to Ballylanders leaving his family in America.

William Condon died in Cullane 14 Apr 1906

William had a brother Patrick and sisters Honora & Margaret -- none of them married.

Oh my goodness this post answered so many questions.  I wondered why there was never any record of William Condon Sr. in the USA- I assumed he died early on.  Bridget is always listed as Head of Household.   When did he return?   Can I ask where you sourced that so I can collect records?  Do you happen to have the name of William's Parents?  Or an address in Cullane?  Really apprecite the help.

Fr Mackey.... is there a full first name?

THANK you again for pieces to my family puzzle.

Jen

OH.. I found this death record based on the info you gave me for April 1906.  This is definitely my Willima Condon?

So he went crazy then?  "softening of the brain" died in an asylum?  No neices or nephews if his siblings never married?

Sorry, I meant the parents of William Sr. I was looking for names for - so the grandparents of the William we're discussing who's father is also William Condon (spouse Mary O'Donnel).  I do see a prison inmate record for County Limerick for William Condon (butI can't open it because it's a locked site).  Can you see that and a date?

Jen

Sorry for slow response . I seem to have missed notification of your replies..

The date of the prison register is 10 May 1876 - William was 25 and in prison for assaulting and wounding Michael O'Leary of Ballylanders . Also inprisoned was John Condon aged 24 and Thomas Condon aged 27.. All of Cullane.

Softening of the brain can sometimes mean Dementia.

Interesting, thank you so much for the details.  I've learned a lot from Ireland XO.  

Are Baptismal records available for John Condon b. 1852 and Thomas Condon b. 1849 for this parish?  Guessing they're related to William, Wondering who their parents are- possible names to add to my tree.  

Sadly for us researching in Ballylanders - The  register of baptisms for the parish of Ballylanders began on the 6 March 1849

https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0244

Thank you so much for your help researching- especially the info on how William left his family in America and returned to Ireland.  That was a huge missing piece of info.  I've got a trip booked to Ireland later this month.  My Dublin ancestors (John/Felix Mcguire) are from an earlier time (1700s) so I will focus on my more recent Ballylanders/Cullane people.  I will spend 2 days in the area (thinking of staying at Deebert House, let me know if you reccomend anything else).  Do any of the buildings associated with my ancestors still stand?  The Cahtolic Chapel in Ballanders William and Bridgit were married at in 1881?  The Asylum in Cullane William died in, I understand it later bacame a hospital.  I could never find an exact adrress for Edward Mackay (just said he was a farmer from Ballylanders on the marriage cert) or Williams family.  Places where I can look up records that are not online?  Thanks again!

Jennifer

I was finally able to book a trip 'home' in early April.  I will be in Dublin from April 1 to April 6.  So excited.  I want to thank you guys for all your help, especially these bombshells below.  I had a few more questions about this info if you happened to know them.  

• Bridget Mackey was a neice of Fr Mackey,-  does that stand for Fred Mackey?  What record was this sourced from?  Did she have cousins/siblings?
• William Condon came back to Ballylanders leaving his family in America.  Is there a record of that somehwere or could you just tell by the fact that he showed up again in the Irish records?  This answered SO many questions
• William had a brother Patrick and sisters Honora & Margaret -- none of them married-  Do you know the burial site?  Looking for some places to visit