Hello, my ancestor Morgan Sweeny/Sweeney was a member of the Coastguard at Clifden and other locations in the 1830s-50s. There is a likely death record of him at Clifden, in 1877. Ireland Civil Reistration of Deaths Index, 1864-1958. Vol9 p123 FHL film number 101588. (Birth 1802, death aged 75) I live in Australia so Im unable to check this out myself. If someone is able to search that record for me I would be very appreciative. I want to find out if there is any information about him that could confirm his identity. He was born in Dungloe about 1802 and his wife was Margaret Burke. Thanks Kate Dale
kdxxx
Wednesday 13th May 2020, 11:27PMMessage Board Replies
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Hi Kate,
I will get the details by post from Civil Registration Office, 25, Newcastle Road, Galway and make them available to you and any other info that I come across.
Regards,
McCoy
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Wow! So Fast! Thanks McCoy, looking forward to hearing back from you, Thanks Kate
kdxxx
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Hi, hope I am not jumping in here.
My inlaws were Coastguard Officers and I have kept various links when searching.
They were stationed in Donegal 2x areas, Mayo, Sligo and Clare. Moving back to Portsmouth, England.
This is Clifden
http://coastguard-station.com/index.html
This next link has details of the families.
What I did notice that it only lists Officers. One of the inlaws family married a coastguard boatman and he is not listed.
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/Coastguards
What I did find was this marriage.
Ellen Sweeney to Charles Steward....... first entry, Father "Morgan Sweeney"
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_re…
This is sad.... sorry. This is Margaret's Death record number 383.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_retu…
Can't seem to find any other information.You say Morgan was born in Dungloe..... this is Donegal.
Every year we go to a festival in Adrara this is not far from Dungloe.
With the Corvid Virus this year it may be cancelled, just waiting to hear.
Next visit we are to go to Dungloe and further north. Any info I see I will send on.
Hope this helps
MargotMargot
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Thank you Margot for the information you sent me today. We visited the renovated CoastGuard station a couple of years ago when we were visitng Ireland. We also visited Dungloe so it would be great if you find any information there for me. Thanks for sending me the links. I couldnt find Morgan on the Genuki listsm, but he was a rating.
Im pretty certain that the Margaret Sweeney Death registration belongs to Morgans wife. This is very exciting news. It places Morgan in Clifden in the correct period for the death details for him to be the corrrect Morgan Sweeny who died in 1875 Is there any way I can look up the pension records for the Coastguard?
I didnt know there was an Ellen in the family but I have the family on the 1841 Wyke Regis census(without Morgan) He is listed in Clifden in the ADM175 records as living in Clifden in 1848 (time of Ellens brith) and further children Daniel 1853 and John 1855 being born in Ballee and Lecale, Strangford. Is it possible to obtain death certificates with the names of spouses and children listed? Thanks for all the information, I really appreciate it, Kate
kdxxx
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Hi,
The Civil records were introduced in 1864, so before then we only have Church records.
Some of those are very hard to read.
Going by the date you gave, I looked at a map for Stangford then went to the registers.nli.ie stite to pick up the Parish.
Ballycutter.........then saw the Ballee place.
This is Daniel's Baptism 6th down. 1853
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633098#page/18/mode/1up
This is John's Baptism. 4th down 1855
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633098#page/21/mode/1upPension records...... not sure where you would look for these.
I did notice this......
Daniel Sweeney in the England and Wales Census, 1871
birth: 1854 Strangford, Down Ireland
residence:1871 At Sea
Was he a Sailor?
I havn't got ancestry now but if you could look up the 1871 Census you would be able to see his family.
If I think of anywhere else to look I will let you know.
MargotMargot
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Hi Kate.
In case you are wondering about the death record for Morgan Sweeney, Clifden, I hope to have details by Tuesday 20th.
Due to the Corona virus many staff in Civil Registration Offices are deployed to other duties. The Clerk confirmed that he was recorded as "Coast Guard".
Regards,
McCoy
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Kate, I just went to the 1841 Census in England, for the record for Margaret Sweeney in Wyke Regis.
Can you check if this is the same family as yours?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQYW-CNF
Do you know these children? please ignore the blue I can't get rid of it!
If correct then you will see Hannah's birth record below.
Someone would have to go to the registration office for you using the details listed below.
If you are in Ancesrty you could obtain a copy via the site. (may be a bit expensive)James Sweney 1831 Ireland
Bernard Sweney 1833 Ireland
Morgan Sweney 1836 Ireland
Margaret Sweney 1838 Ireland
Hannah Sweney 1839 Dorset
Name: Hannah Maria Sweeny
vent Type: Birth Registration Registration
Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration
Year: 1840
Registration District: Weymouth County: Dorset Event
Place: Weymouth, Dorset, England
Volume: 8
Page: 154
Affiliate Line Number: 15The Morgan Sweeney above born 1836, I have been following him in the England Census, he was with the Customs people in 1881 and 1901 he was in Chatham in Kent. As the Coastguard and Navy were all one years ago, there is a big or was a big Naval Base there.(My brother was there years ago) Up to 1901 Morgan had never married.
MargotMargot
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Hi Margot,
thank you for the information about Daniel and John Sweeny's baptisms in Ballee.
I am also looking for the Baptism of their sister Margaret, who is my direct ancestor. She was born around 1838 or 39. Morgan was transferred from Dungloe to Killkerin, Galway in 1838. I havent been able to find her baptism or the marriage of Morgan and Margaret Burke that must have taken place about 1830, as their eldest child James was 10 in 1841 on the census for Wyke Regis.
The Wyke Regis family is definitely the right one. Daughters Hannah and Margaret both came to Australia together and name Morgan Sweeny, Coastguard and Margaret Burke as their parents on their Marriage Certificates.
I checked the 1871 census for Daniel and found him as a 17 year old on a Naval ship. It makes sense that he would be a sailor as his father was in the Coastguard service. Where did you find the details of his family that you mentioned?
Margaret died tragically on 5 November,1888 and was attended to by the coroner. Do you know if its possible to check the coroners reports? Ive tried finding it online or in a newspaper article but couldnt locate anything with limited knowledge from afar!!
Thanks so much for all your help. Very much appreciated, Kate
Hi McCoy,
thanks for following up on the death certificate for Morgan Sweeny. Confirmation that he was a Coastguard is very exciting, so now I know the death details are for the right person and that confirms the identity for his wife Margaret as well. Very satisfying to know that, after so many years of searching! I look forward to receiving the details from you when you have them, Thank you. Kate
kdxxx
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Hi Kate,
I have received a transcribed copy of the original death record of Morgan Sweeney, Clifden. It states that he died on 1st April 1877. Was 75 years of age and married. His death was reported on 14th April 1877 by John Sweeney, Person Present at death, Clifden, no localised address. Morgan is recorded as "Retired Coast Guard Commissioned Boatman"
The copy is a Research Facility - Death Record - No 7825291
All registered births and marriages from 1864 are computerised. Death records are only partially, hence the transcription. Normally a photo copy of the original record is provided at a low fee.
In relation to "John Sweeney" there are records of "John, Michael and Owen" in the townland of Fahy, parish of Omey (Clifden) 1877 to 1879. Owen is described as a farmer.
How do you wish to have the record forwarded to you?
Regards,
McCoy
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Hi Kate,
The site I got the info from was the old LDS site or Mormon site.Church records, see below............. but Dungloe only start from 1876. If you go on this registers site and Donegal, point to the various Parishes and you will see when the records start.
The reason being.......most Catholic Churches were being re-built around 1835, they were being allowed to be built then, again.Margot
Margot
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Thank you McCoy for the confirmation of Morgan's death information. Morgan had a son, John, who would have been 22 at the time of Morgan's death. I dont know of Michael or Owen. You could send the certificate via email, or you could post it, I dont know if IrelandXO encourage us to put our email or postal addresses online. Please let me know if this is the case and how I could inform you. Thank you very much for organising this for me. Is there any possibility of getting the death certificate for Margaret Sweeny as well.Thanks, Kate
Hi Margot, thanks for the links, I had a quick look today but will spend more time on it tomorrow. Thanks for your help, Kate
kdxxx
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Hi Kate,
I have requested a copy of the death record of Margaret Sweeney. It is computerised, so I expect to have it tomorrow.
In relation to despatch, I suggest you have them sent to a Box Number at your local post office.
Regards,
McCoy
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Hi Mc Coy, a box at my local post office will cost me $147 for the year. ( no short term available) You can post it to my home address if I can send the address to you. Can I send it somewhere so its not on the forum? Otherwise a copy by email would suffice. Please let me know where to send the address. Looking forward to receiving Margaret's certificate as well. Thanks so much. Kate
kdxxx
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Hi Kate,
I have received the death certificate for Margaret Sweeney.
I have requested IrelandXO to message you.
Regards,
McCoy
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Thanks McCoy, much appreciated, Kate
kdxxx