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Hello:

I would like to find out more, if possible, about the ancestors of my surname. They were listed aboard the Regulus in 1825, part of the Peter Robinson settlements, to Ontario, Canada.

The confusing part is that a tombstone in Downeyville, Ontario, say clearly that they were "native of Tipperary", but listed officially as being from Mallow, Cork, and the name C.D.O. Jephson was given. Jephson was a large landowner who I believe had the seat of his estate in Mallow, and I do not know if he sponsored them because they were farming on his land, but I assume this must have been the case. They were listed as "reduced farmers". This included Jeremiah and wife Kitty (I believe Murphy), children John, James, Michael, Mary, Ellen. (The family is recorded as an example of the Callaghans who emigrated, in a book about the entire history of the Callaghan surname, written by Joseph O'Callaghan).

Jephson undoubtedly owned a large territory. I am just making guesses as to whether they moved from Tipperary to farm near Mallow or whether Jephson's territory extended into Tipperary and they farmed there, but for brevity their former residence was just put on the ship's register as the address of the central, official house of the "lord" whom they worked for/rented land from (and I would love to know what their status was and what "reduced farmer" meant).

It is James who is my ancestor, and it is his tombstone (rather than his father's) that says he was a native of Tipperary. Yet he was age 10 when his father Jeremiah, and mother Kitty, brought him and siblings to Canada. That would not have allowed much time for him to be born in Tipperary, before his family moved to Mallow to farm, and then left for Canada. It seems doubtful that the family and friends who buried James got his native territory wrong. It could be that Mallow is a mistake, or an approximation, just to put something down on the ship's register, or it was where they had been living before they left. Others on the same ship, listed under Jephson, have distinct other towns in Cork, so some care seems to have been taken to be precise about where the families were from. A relative who did some research said they may have been from Clonmel, but she has passed away now, and I do not know what led her to believe that. She was not sure.

When I was in Mallow 2 years ago, I asked at the heritage center, and was told that it was unlikely that there is any information going this far back. Birthdates were 1790,91 for the parents, and between 1810 and 1822 for the children.

My question is: is it worth pursuing? And if so, what would I do? Should I post this message in the Mallow section? I could search for information in several parishes of Tipperary, close to the Cork border (Templetenny, Shanrahan, Tullaghorton, Barrettsgrange, Clonbeg, Killardry, Caher, Ballybacon and Tipperary South, are the parishes close to Cork), or I could search in Mallow. Is it the case that church records do not extend this far back? Would children born 1810 to 1825 be recorded somewhere?

Relatives I may have in Ireland related to my surname would be so far removed, I am not really hoping for connections necessarily. But at the very least, it would be interesting to know where they were from, and more about the meaning of their status as reduced farmers. I visit Ireland often and it is possible for me to do research but I don't know where to begin.

An aside: as a 3rd to 4th generation Canadian, it is hard for me to pick a parish to belong to because there are about 10 separate ancestors, hailing from counties across Ireland, of various stripes (Catholic, Protestant Presbyterian, Methodist German refugees from Limerick) who met and married, and whose descendants met and married, in the US and Canada.

Thanks kindly for any advice or any comments or information anyone might have!

AnaKim

Saturday 11th Jan 2020, 11:48PM

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  • Hi AnaKim,  on the Ship Regulus the manifest records them as being from Mallow. The youngest child was five in 1825.

    Records for Mallow Parish start in 1805 for Marriages and 1809 for baptisms, they are free to search on line at www.registersnli.ie

    If you find records for them it could give you a local address.

    I dont know what is the answer re Tipperary on the headstone.

    Have you done DNA.

    Best of luck with your research, let me know how you get on.

    Christina Volunteer.

     

     

    Christina, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Monday 13th Jan 2020, 01:21PM
  • Hi Christina,

    Thank you very much! I am just looking at the website now, at the digitized register. It's quite amazing that this is available at all. What a great service the library has.

    Much appreciate your suggestions!

    Ana Kim

    AnaKim

    Monday 20th Jan 2020, 01:03AM
  • Hi again AnaKim, glad to help, one thing to remember the ages of the children could be out by a few years.

    Let me know how you get on.

    Will try and find out about the name Jepson.

    Christina.

    Christina, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Saturday 25th Jan 2020, 11:37AM
  • Free www.irish genelogy.ie a government web site- go to civil records. Chri Jephson Wiki Tree - Jephson is free, Jephsons married in the church at Aghenamsadly Tipperary and Tipperary genelogy web site has a list of marriages and deaths in some of the parishes - The jephsons own land in Mallow and tipperary, the tith alotment books are now on line, good hunting Joy

    Tuesday 8th Sep 2020, 07:47PM
  • Cousin AnaKim, I'm son of Richard III, son of Richard II, son of Richard I, son of James, son of Jerimiah.  I've been told Jeremiah married Catherine Cahil (I'd also thought Murphy) in Mallow (Diocese of Cloyne) between Nov. 1810-Feb.1811) which makes sense as their oldest, John, was born 1811.  Jephson had property in Clonmel, Limerick as well as Mallow; so I'm speculating Jerimiah and his new family re-located to the Clonmel estate for awhile (where James is born?).  I still not sure how all the Robinson settlers named Callaghan are related but a Cornelius Callaghan was a Jephson tenant in one record. Cousin Pat!

     

     

     

    Patrick Callaghan

    Monday 25th Oct 2021, 12:30PM
  • Attached Files

    Found at www.registersnli..ie Mallow marriage Jan.22, 1811 Jerry Callahan to Catherine Cahil (photo attached?)

    Patrick Callaghan

    Monday 25th Oct 2021, 01:17PM

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