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Ritac

Thursday 24th Oct 2019, 11:54AM

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  • Hi Rita,
    Do you know Ann's Mothers names? (Christian and maiden)

    Margot

    Margot

    Wednesday 30th Oct 2019, 11:53AM
  • Hi, Also the children's names and aprrox years.
    I have found Births but need to confirm.
    Margot

    Margot

    Wednesday 30th Oct 2019, 12:32PM
  • Hi Margot...My ancestor was John Holland.  Ann Brierly comes on his marriage notice. they married in the Church of Ireland Roscrea 27 Aug 1851. Henry Brierly is down as her father.   I have seen that Shrimpton Brierly at the same time roundabout also had a daughter called Anne.S. Henry and Shrimpton seem to share the running of the boot and shoe making shop.  John Holland had enlisted in the 49th Regiment of Foot and was based at Roscrea. I got his papers from UK Royal Hospital Chelsea Regimental registers of Pensioners.This was 1839 to 1849. He served overseas. Just recently I have found Henry Brierly was a sergeant in the same regiment and his service overlapped at Roscrea with John for the last 3 years of Henry's service. He also was a Chelsea pensioner and his records are there   Also there are earlier Brierlys  who were professional soldiers.going back to the 1700s  the same regiment  I dont know how they link up..  The trade on enlisting at 18 is always Boot and shoemaker from Roscrea.    so i can see how John Holland and Ann Brierly met.    My Great grandad was one of their sons  William. They ended up in Harpenden herts UK.after his service..Henry's sons were Frederick Henry William John and his daughter Sarah.. Ann ended up living with Sarah's family.  Henry seems to be a popular name in the family.  I have to look up birth dates with the names. I am a bit old  and am not a professional researcher  best wishes Rita

    Ritac

    Thursday 31st Oct 2019, 10:04AM
  • Hi Rita,
    Thanks for the update.
    Well I have found Ann born in 1834 with William as her father and Kitty Newton as her Mother.
    Can you email me please, if you ask Jane Holloran Ryan for my email address I will send on the information to you.
    I also have a John Brielry as a Shoemaker born in Roscrea living in Lancashire. He is from William's brother's line, his father is Henry he married Mary/Marie Gavan.
    I just had a quick browse in another site and saw this....................(if this opens with a screen requesting a name, put in srimpton brierly)
    Number 354
    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1894/05949/4690567.pdf

    There is also and death of an Edward Brierly, a shoemaker in Limerick street Roscrea, I will send these on to you via email.
    You can find more records in this site, Mary Ann Breirly her marriage and it sates Srimpton as the parent.
    https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/

    Margot 

     

     

     

    Margot

    Friday 1st Nov 2019, 10:17AM
  • Hi After a bit more searching, Scrimpton Brierly was married to Dora Dolan, they married in 1840 in Roscrea.
    They also had a daughter called Ann. on the marriage of Scrimpton it was entered as Crompton and was changed by a tree owner in Lancashire. But now I found that this tree owner has them as Father and Daughter!!!!
    Just found, well this is task, Henry Brierly, a marriage for him in 1904, in Liverpool,  he is 53 and a widower, he marries a Sarah Todd also a widow aged 47 maiden name Coff.
    It says his fathers name in Scrimpton, so it has to be him.
    Isn't it fun!
    Margot

     

     

     

    Margot

    Friday 1st Nov 2019, 11:24AM
  • Hi Margot  I keep losing the page we are talking on. I did ask   about you having my email address so you can send me things as I can you I have quite a lot of information. . rita.cobb@ntlworld.com  try it   Rita

    Ritac

    Tuesday 5th Nov 2019, 04:38PM

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