I have reached a couple of dead ends in researching my great great grandparents in Emly. My gg grandfather was Michael Callaghan (b abt 1800) and his son Michael (b 1838) was my great grandfather. From the documents I have found I cannot tell if my gg Grandmother was Mary Rea/Reagh/Real or something similar. It also appears that there may have been multiple unrelated Callaghans in the area and I was wondering if anyone had any information about the family or the town arounf that time
Mike C
Monday 4th Mar 2019, 08:43PMMessage Board Replies
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Mike:
Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out!
I looked at the parish register for 1838 and located the record. The name was Mary Rea.
I searched on FindMyPast.ie and did not see any baptismal records for siblings.
Record for Emly RC parish started in 1810 so if Michael Callaghan Sr. was from that parish and born around 1800, a record would not exist.
The 1850 Griffiths Valuation head of household listing for Emly civil parish shows three Rea records but no Callaghan records.
https://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths/tipperary/emly.htm
Roger McDonnell
Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
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Thank you Roger for your efforts. I have the birth certificate you mentioned but I also have a marriage record for a Michael Callaghan and a Mary Reagh. The timing seems off so I am not sure if either are correct. I also have a birth for Mary with Callaghan/Rea parents in Cashel in 1831 and a John in Emly in 1834. My working theory now is that they moved from cashel to Emly between 1831-34. I have not used findmypast - I will give that a try
Thanks again
Mike
Mike C
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Hi.
There were at least 3 births to this couple in Emly (john 1834; john 1836 and Michael 1838). Rea was often spelt Ray or Wray so search using the various spellings. Likewise, Callaghan can be spelt calahan or callahan.
Hope this helps
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Hi.
There were at least 3 births to this couple in Emly (john 1834; john 1836 and Michael 1838). Rea was often spelt Ray or Wray so search using the various spellings. Likewise, Callaghan can be spelt calahan or callahan.
Hope this helps
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Thank you. I was not aware of the 1836 birth, I have tried every spelling I can think of which is part of my problem. I will try to get the '34 birth info - sounds like a child who died in infancy
Thanks again
Mike
Mike C
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Mike-
You probably have this info. I pulled from RootsIreland-
Name: John Callaghan Date of Birth:
Date of Baptism: 19-May-1834
Address: Emly Parish/District: EMLY
Gender: Unknown County Co. Tipperary
Denomination: Roman CatholicFather: Michael Callaghan Mother: Mary Rea
Occupation:Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1: Bgt. Rea Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2: Not Recorded
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Name: Michael Callaghan Date of Birth:
Date of Baptism: 28-Oct-1838
Address: Not Recorded Parish/District: EMLY
Gender: Unknown County Co. Tipperary
Denomination: Roman CatholicFather: Michael Callaghan Mother: Mary Rea
Occupation:Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1: John Mitchell Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2: Mary SlatteryRegards- Mary
MaryTV
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Mike,
Did any of your family stay in Ireland? If they left, where did they go? Do you have Marriage/ Births/ Death dates would be useful. Who did Michael marry? If its the US, sometimes you can find info on death records, marriage records, birth records, and censuses. I have found Ancestry and FamilySearch(free) to be useful.Do you know approximately when Mary and Michael died? Irishgenealogy (free) might have a record.
You probably already tried all of this but I thought I would suggest.
Regards- Mary
MaryTV
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Thanks so much for your help. I did have most of that nformation but it reminded me that I want to see if I can find anything on the Bridget Rae who was a sponsor. I know 'everything' about my great grandfather and his descendents but I don;t know anything about his siblings. I contacted a dna relatve in Australia and he pointed me to an Honor Callaghan. She may have been a gg aunt but I can't find anything definitive on her, I don't know when my GG Grandparents died. I found an entry in Griffiths for a Mary Callaghan renting a house in Emly so I imagine my GG Grandfather was dead at that time bit I haven;t found anything to document that. I also can;t find them in the St Ailbe graveyard so I will have to look to see if I can find them nearby. I have linked several of my dna relatives to my father;s side but I haven;t been able to determine if any of them are Callaghan descendants.
I plan on visiting Emly for a few hours when I am over there in June. I doubt that I will have tome to do any research but I am anxious to see the town/area.
Thanks again for your help
Mike
Mike C
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Mike,
Don't be discouraged. I have ancestors buried in St. Ailbe in unmarked graves. Have you researched gravesites/ cemeteries through Historicgraves (free)?
In 1834, there was a William Rea living in Emly Village. Maybe connected to Bridget? The other sponsor was Mary Slattery.
There were a John and Thomas Slattery in 1834 living in Ballinvreena, Emly amd a John Slattery living in Ballycurrane, Emly.
Mary Slattery (maiden name Hanley) could be the wife of John Slattery. They got married in Emly in 1825??
I was in Emly in 2003. The town is very picturesque and the residents are helpful and friendly. St. Ailbe is a beautiful church.
Good luck- Mary
MaryTV
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Thanks. I wasn't able to find anything on the graves site and haven' yet found anything more on the Rea family. I beleive my family were poor laborers so I am not surpried that I can't find a hradstone anywhere. The current church was built after my family left but I understand the church hall is the previous church building - I am looking forward to seeing both
Mike
Mike C
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Hi Mike C:
Thank you for your post and for your information about your upcoming trip. We have a volunteer who is very familiar with that area who may be able to assist and I have forwarded this query to her. She should be in contact with you in the next week or two.
Many thanks for your interest in Ireland Reaching Out. Please keep us posted about your trip and if there is anything further that you need, please let us know.
Kind regards,
Jane
Jane Halloran Ryan
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Ehank you. I look forward to hearing from you
Mike
Mike C
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I just wanted to let you know that I am exploring the possibility that my Great Grandfather had a brother - John Calahan - who married Ellen Browne in Emly and had 4 children. I believe Catherine married Denis Daly and lived in Clashdrumsmith. I haven't been able to find any other information but it would be interesting to see if another branch of my family tree survived
Mike C
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Mike are some files from RootsIreland.
Date of Marriage: 24-Feb-1857
Parish / District: EMLY County: Co. TipperaryHusband Wife
Name: John Callaghan Ellen Browne
Address:
Denomination: Roman Catholic Roman Catholic
Occupation:
Age:
Status:Husband's Father Wife's Father
Name: Callaghan Browne
Address:
Denomination:
Occupation:Husband's Mother Wife's Mother
Name:
Address:
Denomination:
Occupation:Witness 1 Witness 2
Name: Thomas Darcy Peggy Ryan
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@Name: Mary Callaghan Date of Birth:
Date of Baptism: 13-Jun-1858
Address: Parish/District: EMLY
Gender: Unknown County Co. Tipperary
Denomination: Roman CatholicFather: John Callaghan Mother: Ellen Browne
Occupation:Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1: Wm. Mcgrath Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2: Mary Holmes@
Name: Catherine Callaghan Date of Birth:
Date of Baptism: 23-Nov-1860
Address: Parish/District: EMLY
Gender: Unknown County Co. Tipperary
Denomination: Roman CatholicFather: John Callaghan Mother: Ellen Browne
Occupation:Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1: Thady Hanley Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2: Bgt. Mceniry@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Name: Bridget Callaghan Date of Birth:
Date of Baptism: 10-Feb-1862
Address: Parish/District: EMLY
Gender: Unknown County Co. Tipperary
Denomination: Roman CatholicFather: John Callaghan Mother: Ellen Browne
Occupation:Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1: James Flemming Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2: Jna. Fahy@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Name: Michael Callaghan Date of Birth:
Date of Baptism: 20-Dec-1863
Address: Parish/District: EMLY
Gender: Unknown County Co. Tipperary
Denomination: Roman CatholicFather: John Callaghan Mother: Ellen Browne
Occupation:Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1: Patk. Fahy Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2: Julia Bourke
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Name: Ellen Callaghan Date of Birth: 21-Jul-1868
Registration Date: 26-Aug-1868
Address: Emly Parish/District: EMLY
Gender: Female County Co. Tipperary
Denomination: Civil ParishFather: John Callaghan Mother: Ellen Brown
Occupation: LabourerSponsor 1 /
Informant 1: Ellen Callaghan Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Notes:
INF1:MOTHER(X)
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@Name: Ellen Callaghan Date of Birth:
Date of Baptism: 23-Jul-1868
Address: Not Recorded Parish/District: EMLY
Gender: Unknown County Co. Tipperary
Denomination: Roman CatholicFather: John Callaghan Mother: Ellen Browne
Occupation:Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1: James Kirby Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2: Bgt. Ryan
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Date of Marriage: 16-Feb-1885
Parish / District: EMLY County: Co. TipperaryHusband Wife
Name: Denis Daly Catherine Callaghan
Address: Clashdrumsmith
Denomination: Roman Catholic Roman Catholic
Occupation:
Age:
Status:Husband's Father Wife's Father
Name: Daly Callaghan
Address:
Denomination:
Occupation:Husband's Mother Wife's Mother
Name:
Address:
Denomination:
Occupation:Witness 1 Witness 2
Name: William Hayes Not Recorded Dwyer
Address:Notes:
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Date of Marriage: 16-Feb-1885
Parish / District: EMLY County: Co. TipperaryHusband Wife
Name: Denis Daly Catherine Callaghan
Address: Duntryleague, Galbally Ballahone, Emly
Denomination: Civil Parish Civil Parish
Occupation: FARMER FARMER
Age: 31 Full Age (Over 21)
Status: Bachelor (Previously unmarried) Spinster (Previously unmarried)Husband's Father Wife's Father
Name: Denis Daly Michael Callaghan
Address:
Denomination:
Occupation: FARMER FARMERHusband's Mother Wife's Mother
Name:
Address:
Denomination:
Occupation:Witness 1 Witness 2
Name: William Hogan Johanna Callaghan
Address:Notes:
PRIEST; MAURICE POWER PPRegards- Mary
MaryTV
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Thanks for your efforts Mary. I will definitely get back on Roots Ireland before my trip. I have mentioned to others how many times the same names and places appear. I need to do some research on the various witnesses to see if they are or turn into relatives.
Mike
Mike C
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Mary
Thank you again for your efforts on my behalf. I had seen the first record but not the second, which specified Michael as the Father and Johanna as the witness. Michael and Johanna were the names of my great grandparents but they were in Chicago in 1885. I wonder who the people at the wedding were. Once again too many people with the same name in the same town.
Mike C
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In regards to Ellen Callaghan, Baptised 23 July 1868 - Informant/Sponsor is James Kirby; James Kirby is no doubt my grgr grandmother's brother. They were residents of Emly. My grgr grandmother immigrated to the USA, but James stayed in Emly with his parents and a couple of other siblings. The name Callahan/Callaghan rang a bell with me so I looked up the baptismal reecords I have on the Kirbys. Michael Kirby born 1833 - Sponsor #1 Dermot Callaghan, #2 Mary Murphy. Another sibling is John Kirby, born 1830 - Sponsor #1 John Callaghan, #2 JNA Callaghan. I also have a copy of the baptismal registry for sibling Daniel Kirby and on the opposite page is the record of an Ellen Casey - Father John Casey, mother Margaret Walsh?, Sponsor #1 is William Callahan #2 Barbara Casey. I would say our families were very familiar with one another!
My daughter and her husband were in Ireland in March of this year and spent one afternoon in Emly. They found the gravestone of Daniel Kirby's family at St. Ailbe's cemetery, and had a wonderful time downtown at a local tea room.
Now I have thrown more names into your search, but I hope you are successful in your endeavor. Kim B.
kbender
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Thank you. I have not come across the name Dermot or William in my family - more research to do, I also want to see if I can identify the Johanna who was a sponsor in 1830 and the one who was a witness in 1885
Mike C
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Dear Mike C:
I have been in contact with a local person who has given me the following information for you:
You can access the graves through the Historic Graves website and here is the link to the graveyard in Emly:
https://historicgraves.com/graveyard/emly/ts-emog
In addition, Fr Richard holds the parish registers and he can be contacted via telephone at this number: (062) 57103.
If you need any further assistance, please let me know.
Kind regards,
Jane
Jane Halloran Ryan
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Mike,
I was not sure if this census from 1881 would help.https://www.libraryireland.com/genealogy/bassett/tipperary/emly.php
Regards- Mary
MaryTV
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Jane
Thank you. I have searched the Emly cemetary websites and I don't think any of the marked graves are for my family. Given what little I know, I am not surprised that they don't have a headstone.
I am also working with someone form the Emly Historical Society and I have emailed Fr Rochford to see if I can meet with him for a while while I am there in June. I am also trying to find out how to add my famiy's name to the emigrant wall. Do you know if they have death registers for the patis? All I have seen so far are baptisms and weddings
Mary
Thank you for the link to the census. I had not realized the population had fallen so far so fast. While my great grandparents were gone by then, it does list a John that I will need to research, I am still trying to figure out where he may have lived and if/when he may have emigrated. I have book marked the site for future use.
Mike
Mike C
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Jane Halloran Ryan
Back on March 12 tiy nebtioned a local person would get in touch with me, I am corresponding with Helena from the Emly Historical Society but I wasn't sure if she was the person you referred to. Looking forward to my visit on June 21
Mike
Mike C
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Hi Mike C:
Yes, the person that I corresponded with was involved with the Tidy Towns committee and she gave the information about Historic Graves. We do have contacts with the local historical society so I'm delighted to hear that Helena is helping you,
I will forward this post to one of our vounteer Network Leaders and he might keep an eye on it for you. Please let me know if you need any further information.
Kind regards,
Jane
Jane Halloran Ryan
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I visited Emly on June 21st and had a wonderful time, Thanks you to John of the Historical Society, Fr Rochford, and to Helena for coordinating the visit. I will try to post a few photos in the Buildings section
Mike C
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Mike,
I visited Emly the following week. Everyone I met were generous with their time and very gracious. I visited The Kinkead farm in Lackelly. The farm next to that farm was originally the Fitzgerald farm. Although Lackelly is in Limerick, it was considered part of Emly Parish, Tipperary.Edmond Michael Fitzgerald (1855-1936) parents were Michael Fitzgerald and Ann Bourke. He married Ellen Kinkead of Lackelly (1858-1917) in 1880. Ellen was the daughter of Samuel Kinkead and Elizabeth Mitchell. Edmond and Ellen went to America in 1880 and when Ellen became pregnant in 1881, Edward sent her back to Ireland for the birth of their son (Joseph) Michael Fitzgerald.
Edmond was the oldest son so he inherited the farm. His sister, Margaret Fitzgerald, married Patsy Callahan and they took over the family farm when Edmond left Ireland.
I am not sure during your visit if you found a connection to this Callahan family.
Take care- Mary
Name: Michael Fitzgerald Date of Birth: 14-Apr-1882
Registration Date: 18-Apr-1882
Address: Lackelly, Emly Parish/District: GALBALLY
Gender: Male County Co. LimerickDenomination: Civil Record
Father: Edmond Fitzgerald Mother: Ellen Kincade
Occupation: FarmerSponsor 1 /
Informant 1: Edmond Fitzgerald
Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Notes:
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Date of Marriage: 03-Feb-1887
Parish / District: EMLY
County: Co. TipperaryHusband
Wife
Name: Patrick Callaghan
Margaret Fitzgerald
Address: Ballahone, Emly
Lickelly, Emly
Denomination: Civil Parish
Civil Parish
Occupation: FAARMER
FARMER
Age: 32
Full Age (Over 21)
Status: Bachelor (Previously unmarried)
Spinster (Previously unmarried)Husband's Father
Wife's Father
Name: Jeremiah Callaghan
Michael Fitzgerald
Address:Denomination:
Occupation: FARMER
FARMERHusband's Mother
Wife's Mother
Name:Address:
Denomination:
Occupation:
Witness 1
Witness 2
Name: James Callaghan
Annie Fitzgerald
Address:Notes:
PRIEST: MAURICE POWER PP
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Name: Patrick Callaghan
Gender: Male
Age: 55
Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation to Head: Head
Residence Date: 31 Mar 1901
Townland/Street: Lackelly West
District: Duntryleague
County: Limerick
Household Members:
Name Age
Patrick Callaghan 55
Margaret Callaghan 46
Catherine Callaghan 13
Michael Callaghan 11
Jeremiah Callaghan 10
Anne Collins 24
Regards- MaryMaryTV
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Thank you for this information. I don't know of a link to Limerick but as you say it is close to Emly town. I think I may be at a dead end until I happen upon a dna match who knows their family tree. Not overly hopeful but it did happen with my wife's family so it can happen
Mike C