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I am looking for information on my great grandfather Patrick Browne born 6/10/1867 or 1869 and died 10/17/1912.  I believe he came from Navan County Longford.  He shows up on th 191New York census along with his wife and children and his nephew Edward O’Hara who was 26 in 1910.

It looks like Patrick arrived in America in 1890 and married my great grandmother in 1893.  Edward O’Hara arrived in America in 1908.

Any information you can provide on Patrick Browne and/or Edward O’Hara would be most appreciated.

Donna

D Ryan

Monday 14th Jan 2019, 02:07AM

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  • Hi D Ryan,
    Sorry about all the following questions and comments, but these do help.
    You say................

    I am looking for information on my great grandfather Patrick Browne born 6/10/1867 or 1869 and died 10/17/1912.  I believe he came from Navan County Longford.
    Navan is in County Meath, I have checked for a townland for Navan in County Longford, no results, sorry.

     He shows up on th 191New York census along with his wife and children
    Wife's name is..............................please.

    and his nephew Edward O’Hara who was 26 in 1910.
    There is one birth, the image shown was incorrect and I have sent for the correction in the site, when I see the result I will let you know.
     

    It looks like Patrick arrived in America in 1890 and married my great grandmother in 1893.
    On his marriage does it state his fathers name?

    Edward O’Hara arrived in America in 1908.
    Was he married at that time?
    If he was please state he name.

    Margot

    Margot

    Monday 14th Jan 2019, 10:32AM
  • Thanks Margot,

    Patrick’s wife’s name is Margaret Morseman.

    I think Patrick’s father was also named Patrick.

    I am not sure if Edward O’Hara was married.  He is listed as single on the 1910 census.

    Thanks again for your help.

    Donna

    D Ryan

    Tuesday 15th Jan 2019, 04:43AM
  • I logged in the first time today. I got goose-bumps reading your message. If you are related to the people named, you are definitely a cousin of mine. I have been looking for you since 1984. This part of my faminly tree ends with Patrick Browne and a question mark. I have a unique relic which you will undoubtedly want to see, which comes from "Browne's Crossroads" in Granard, where your great-grandfather was born. By the way, my dad's cousin sold the Crossroads only a few years ago, but you can still see the house on Google Earth (although it is now abandoned). We have been there for over two hundred years and I have traced it all out.

    Frank Browne

    Frank

    Monday 26th Apr 2021, 10:14PM
  • Frank,

    Thank you for your response.  Sorry to have not replied sooner.  Do you have a tree on ancestry?

    The photos of Browne's Crossroads are wonderful...

    please tell me more about the relic.

    Donna
     

     

    D Ryan

    Thursday 27th May 2021, 02:37PM
  • Hi, I am glad this popped today.

    Jogged my grey cells, as I said above the image wasn't the correct one.
    This is Patrick Browne's brth record.
    I cannot find the Margaret Morseman marriage.
    here is only one Morseman male listed. and that was in 1900.
    Use this site, you should be able to find other information.
    Welcome to Irish Genealogy - Irish Genealogy
     

    Margot

    Friday 28th May 2021, 09:39AM
  • Can you change the heading on the file line, I noticed it should say the 10th not 1, sorry.

    Margot

    Friday 28th May 2021, 09:41AM
  • Donna,

    I do not have a tree on Ancestry, as it barely existed when I started my family ancestry work in 1984. As I have re-started my genealogical research after some years of putting children through college, I registtered for Ancestry only in the last two months and was going to follow up on your lead about the 1910 census. I had input all my data into a program called Brother's Keeper and stored it on 3-1/2 inch floppies. I recently looked into updating the software and, yes, Brother's Keeper still exists. But I do have a print copy which I can scan and email to you, if you like. Similarly, I would love to get your information on the descendants of Patrick Browne in the U.S. You will see that my tree stops exactly where yours did, with Patrick Browne.

    I have taken the Browne ancestry in Granard back to 1796 and have traced other contributing lines, as well as my mother's family. All in all I have about 1000 individuals in my database. I have spent days at the National Archives in Dublin as well as pouring over microfilm at the local "Family Histroy Library" (i.e., Mormon Church library) here inthe U.S. I haven't found any horsethieves, yet.

    When I visted Granard in 1984, I asked the local priest, Cannon Gilfinnin, if he would let me do research in the Parish Registries. He said "sure," leaned over, opened a drawer, and took out three leather bound books, one for Baptisms, one for Marriages and one for funerals, all hand-written, going back to 1796, recording the activity as it occurred in chronological order. I about choked. How was I to read through 200 years of chicken-scratch writing? Then he leaned over the other side of the desk, winked, said "or you can use this" and plopped a fresh computer printout on the desk. He had received it just that week from the National Government in Dublin, which had asked parishes to send in their registers for the dual purpose of training people how to use computers and to preserve the records. I looked at it and noted that the records were alphabetized and arranged by father's name and mother's name, thereby putting entire family's records back together. I said "this is great, can I photocopy the pages and leave?" To which he replied: "What? Do you think this parish can afford a photocopier? You can transcribe what you want. Just pull the door closed when yuo're finished!" Then he unceremoniously rose and left me alone with the books and computer prinout. Why he trusted me not to take them, I don't know. Anyway, two hours later, I finished transacribing all of the Browne family records. There were so many Browne families in the parish, it took me years to figure out who was related and who was not!

    The relic is a copy of a book of poetry by Oliver Goldsmith. It was said Goldsmith had based "The Deserted Village" on scenes around Grandard, so the people of Granard were very fond of Goldsmith. My dad's first cousin, Fr. Raymond Browne had found it at Browne's Crossraods and gave it to me, as he and I were the "family historirians." (Sadly, Fr. Ray died in Roscommon about six months ago.)  The frontispiece has a drawing of an American doughboy and it was sent to one of my grand-uncles at Browne's Cross from a nephew in New Yorek City, with a New York City address, which I think was Patrick Browne's address. The building that was there has since been removed. I'll dig out the book and tell you exactly what the inscription says.

    Here is my contact information. If you would like me to send you copies, let me know.

    Frank Browne

    Francis J. Browne, Esq., P.C.

    1700 Bedford Street, Suite 204

    Stamford, CT 06905

    p:(203) 967-9995

    f:(203) 359-9331

    fjbrownelaw@gmail.com

    Frank

    Wednesday 2nd Jun 2021, 07:19PM

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