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My great great grandmother Eliza Heffernan Burke (Bourke) was born in the 1840s and lived with her husband John and their children in Poulmucka.  Their son PJ Burke came to the US in around 1890.  Another son, Michael also came to the US, but I’m not sure when.

Eliza died in Poulmucka in about 1911.   I’m trying to get information about Eliza’s history – her birth, family, marriage to John, etc. I have one link, who I think is Eliza’s brother.  John Heffernan (born 1845) came to the US in about 1875.  His daughter lived with PJ Burke in New York for many years, and was listed as “first cousin” on US census.   That would make John Heffernan PJ’s uncle and Eliza’s brother.

Can anybody help me track these Heffernans?

Donna DB

Tuesday 26th Jun 2018, 06:37PM

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  • Hi Donna

    I couldn't find the marriage record on www.rootsireland.ie/ which might have had her father's name

    IF she was from Tipp here's a possible baptism record (Poulmucka is 44km from Emly):

    Name:Elizabeth HeffernanDate of Birth:
    Date of Baptism:14-Aug-1842Address:Not RecordedParish/District:EMLYGender:UnknownCountyCo. Tipperary
    Denomination:Roman Catholic
    Father:James HeffernanMother:Cath. PowerOccupation:
    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1:Patk. O'Neill Sponsor 2 /
    Informant 2:Mgt. Heffernan 

    She does have a brother John but the birth year is a bit out - not uncommon though:

    Name:John HeffernanDate of Birth:
    Date of Baptism:10-Jun-1838Address:Not RecordedParish/District:EMLYGender:UnknownCountyCo. Tipperary
    Denomination:Roman Catholic
    Father:James HeffernanMother:Cath. PowerOccupation:
    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1:Wm. Power Sponsor 2 /
    Informant 2:Cath. Power 

    Col

    ColCaff, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Tuesday 26th Jun 2018, 09:24PM
  • Donna DB:

    Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out!

    The family lived in Knocknaquill townland in Knockgraffon civil parish not far from Poulmucka. Below are the 1901 and 1911 census records for the family. John died in 1909 and Eliza died in March 1911 right before the 1911 census was taken. Their son John and his family are shown in the link below for 1911. The civil death records are below. The RC parish would be New Inn and I located a potential baptismal record in 1836 for Eliza. See below. I found the reocrd on the subscription site FindMyPast.ie

    I will try to find the marriage record.

    Roger McDonnell

     

    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Knockgraffon…

    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Knockgraffon…

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_retu…

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_retu…

    First name(s)ElizaLast nameHeffernanBirth year-Baptism year1836Baptism date24 May 1836ResidenceCarrigastanaParishNew Inn and KnockgraffonAlternative parish namesKnockgraffon, New InnDioceseCashel and EmlyCountyTipperaryCountryIrelandFather's first name(s)ThosFather's last nameHeffernanMother's first name(s)JoannaMother's last nameEnglishRepositoryNational Library of IrelandNational Library of Ireland linkhttp://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632744#page/1/mode/1up

     

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Tuesday 26th Jun 2018, 09:29PM
  • Donna DB:

    I located six baptismal records on FindMyPast.ie  The earliest I located was in May 1864 so the marriage occurred 1863 or earlier. Was not able to find the marriage record.

    Roger

    First name(s)ElizaLast nameBurkeBirth year-Baptism year1876Baptism date19 Jul 1876ParishNew Inn and KnockgraffonAlternative parish namesKnockgraffon, New InnDioceseCashel and EmlyCountyTipperaryCountryIrelandFather's first name(s)JohnFather's last nameBurkeMother's first name(s)ElizaMother's last nameHeffernanRepositoryNational Library of IrelandNational Library of Ireland 

    First name(s)JohnLast nameBurkeBirth year-Baptism year1866Baptism date04 Dec 1866ParishNew Inn and KnockgraffonAlternative parish namesKnockgraffon, New InnDioceseCashel and EmlyCountyTipperaryCountryIrelandFather's first name(s)JohnFather's last nameBurkeMother's first name(s)ElizaMother's last nameHeffernanRepositoryNational Library of IrelandNational Library of Ireland linkhttp://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632746#page/1/mode/1upRegisterBaptism

    First name(s)PatrickLast nameBurkeBirth year-Baptism year1868Baptism date05 Oct 1868ParishNew Inn and KnockgraffonAlternative parish namesKnockgraffon, New InnDioceseCashel and EmlyCountyTipperaryCountryIrelandFather's first name(s)JohnFather's last nameBurkeMother's first name(s)EllenMother's last nameHeffernanRepositoryNational Library of IrelandNational Library of Ireland linkhttp://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632746#page/1/mode/1upRegisterBaptism

    First name(s)CathLast nameBourkeBirth year-Baptism year1871Baptism date23 Aug 1871ParishNew Inn and KnockgraffonAlternative parish namesKnockgraffon, New InnDioceseCashel and EmlyCountyTipperaryCountryIrelandFather's first name(s)JohnFather's last nameBourkeMother's first name(s)ElizaMother's last nameHeffernanRepositoryNational Library of IrelandNational Library of Ireland linkhttp://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632746#page/1/mode/1upRegisterBaptism

    First name(s)MaryLast nameBourkeBirth year-Baptism year1874Baptism date25 Mar 1874ParishNew Inn and KnockgraffonAlternative parish namesKnockgraffon, New InnDioceseCashel and EmlyCountyTipperaryCountryIrelandFather's first name(s)JohnFather's last nameBourkeMother's first name(s)ElizaMother's last nameHeffernanRepositoryNational Library of IrelandNational Library of Ireland linkhttp://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632746#page/1/mode/1upRegisterBaptismRecord setIreland Roman Catholic Parish BaptismsCategoryLife Events (Birth, Marriage, Death)SubcategoryParish BaptismsCollections fromIreland

    First name(s)MichaelLast nameBourkeBirth year-Baptism year1864Baptism date03 May 1864ParishNew Inn and KnockgraffonAlternative parish namesKnockgraffon, New InnDioceseCashel and EmlyCountyTipperaryCountryIrelandFather's first name(s)JohnFather's last nameBourkeMother's first name(s)ElizaMother's last nameHeffernanRepositoryNational Library of IrelandNational Library of Ireland linkhttp://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632746#page/1/mode/1upRegisterBaptism

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Tuesday 26th Jun 2018, 10:53PM
  • Thank you so much!  Of course this inspires more questions!

    I'm wondering if Eliza (and John) Heffernan had a sibling Michael.  I found a Michael died and buried in 1898 in the same place as John in upstate NY.  Hadn't paid attention to the date...thought this was the Michael in the next generation (John's son).  Col- could you see if there's a Michael?

    Also, I found a RC Parish Marriage on findmypast:  Eliza Heffernan, address Cloran, Marriage Date 18 Aug 1861, Parish Drangan, Alternative parish names Cloneen, Drangan and Cloneen, Diocese Cashel and Emly, Spouse's first name John, Spouse's last name Burke, Spouse's address Cloran, County Tipperary. 

    Roger - this date seems to work given the ages of the children -   (son Michael born 1864)

    The parish names are so confusing to me.  Can you tell me where this would be in relation to Knocknaquill?  Thoughts on whether this might be them?  Does anyone have access to the actual record (I only have the transcription).

    Appreciate it!

    Donna

    Donna DB

    Wednesday 27th Jun 2018, 02:53PM
  • Donna:

    The marriage record you located certainly fits. I had looked at that record yesterday and somehow missed the connection. If you hit the blue link below, it will take you to the actual parish register. Drangan RC parish is a good distance to the east of Knockgraffon. Today, it would be a 40 minute drive by car and in the 19th century a much greater distance. I would like to say it is the correct record but I have some doubts.

    Roger

    First name(s)ElizaLast nameHeffernanAddressCloranMarriage year1861Marriage date18 Aug 1861ParishDranganAlternative parish namesCloneen, Drangan and CloneenDioceseCashel and EmlySpouse's first name(s)JohnSpouse's last nameBurkeSpouse's addressCloranCountyTipperaryCountryIrelandRepositoryNational Library of IrelandNational Library of Ireland linkhttp://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632692#page/1/mode/1upRegisterMarriage

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    Wednesday 27th Jun 2018, 05:23PM

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