James Hogan and Ally Walsh - Caherelly

Hi Cate,

I could only find 1 sibling on www.rootsireland.ie/:

Name:Timothy HoganDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:29-May-1845Address:?Parish/District:BALLYBRICKEN & BOHERMOREGender:UnknownCountyCo. Limerick
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:James HoganMother:Ally Walsh

There are 62 Hogans & 106 Walshes in the Irish phone book (www.118.ie/) in Limerick so you might want to check for those in the places you mentioned and drop them a line if you don't get any responses on this site

Col

Hi Col wow thank you so much, that is a great help to me. I will certainly follow it up and post any further information I can find.
Cate

Hello.

Because Walsh and Hogan are names in Logavinshire, Crecora, Limerick, I was interested in your post. My ancestral family is Liston, and there was at least one marriage between a Liston and Walsh in Logavinshire. Checking the locations in these posts, I found they are all within 22 minutes of Logavinshire by car, about 17 km.

I am always looking for connections to names I have found in relationship with or proximity to my Listons, so I thought I'd reach out in case the knowledge were useful.

Best,

Dick Norwood

(R Norwood, Hazel V Case, Mary Elizabeth Liston, Thomas Liston, parents unknwon, b. ca 1820, Crecora Parish, Limerick)

Thank you Dick that's another great lead I will follow up - perhaps concentrating on the Walsh side of the family a little more will open up some new search pathways. I will keep you posted if I find any connections.
Warm regards
Cate

Attached Files

Hello Cate,

I’m not related but found the baptism transcription as well as a copy of the original baptism record for your James Hogan. The baptism transcription was found at the Find My Past (FMP) website. The Find My Past website is mainly a subscription-based or Pay-As-You-Go website, but this company has forgone charging any fees to access Catholic baptisms, marriages, and available church burial transcriptions for all of Ireland for much of the 19th century. Some of the transcriptions even go back to the 18th century. What’s even better is that transcriptions provide links to copies of original Catholic Church baptism, marriage, and burial records held by the National Library of Ireland (NLI) located in Kildare Street, Dublin City.

The FMP transcription for James Hogan notes that he was baptized in the Ballybricken and Bohermore Catholic Parish on May 15, 1837. At the time of the baptism the Hogans were living in the townland of Caherelly. Caherelly was also the name of the Civil Parish in which the Catholic Parish of Ballybricken & Bohermore were situated. James’s father is James Hogan, who was employed as a “Lab,” that is, a Labourer. His mother’s first name was incorrectly transcribed at the FMP site as “Mary,” rather than Ally, due to the handwriting in the register, which can be difficult to read.

I haven’t included the FMP baptism transcription in this reply due to copyright restrictions, but you can access the Ballybricken baptism register entry for James Hogan at the following NLI link: https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632644#page/81/mode/1up

You’ll see two facing pages of the baptism register. You can enlarge the register pages by means of round icons in the upper center/ right of the screen. The icons are white with green backgrounds. You can also access the full-screen function by clicking on the last icon on the right with the two arrows pointing northeast and southwest.

James’s baptism is the last entry on the bottom right-hand page. If you enlarge the page to its maximum magnification, you’ll see that James’s mother’s first name is Ally, rather than Mary, and that her maiden name is Walsh. There are two other names in the baptism record for James. These are the names of the godparents. The first name of one of the godparents is John, though I couldn’t make out his last name. The first name of the godmother is Catherine, but I couldn’t make out her last name either.

I also uncovered the 1829 church marriage record for James Hogan and Ally Walsh, but you already have this, and so I will not include it here.

I then found the baptism transcriptions for six more children of James Hogan and Ally Walsh. All the transcriptions are linked to copies of the original baptism records held by the NLI. The names of these children and their dates of baptism are below. I’ve also included the baptism for James again so that you can see the full chronology of the seven baptisms for the Hogan children that I uncovered.

Daniel Hogan, February 1, 1830
John Hogan, December 20, 1831
Denis Hogan, November 27, 1833
Michael Hogan, September 1, 1835
James Hogan, May 15, 1837
Mary Hogan, February 6, 1842
Thady Hogan, May 29, 1845

Source Information: Find My Past.
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/search-world-records/ireland-roman-cath…
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The following are the NLI links that you can access for the Ballybricken Catholic baptisms of Daniel, John, Denis, Michael, Mary, and Thady Hogan. A respondent to your query going by the name of ColCal sent you information from rootsireland.ie about the 1845 baptism of Timothy Hogan, which is the Thady Hogan baptized on February 6, 1842.

DANIEL HOGAN

Daniel Hogan was baptized on February 1, 1830. The record shows that at the time of the baptism the family were living in Caherelly and that his father James was a Labouer. Daniel’s mother was Ally Walsh. The godparents for Daniel are Maurice Elligot and Mary Shea. Daniel’s baptism is the second from the last entry up from the bottom of the right-hand baptism register page at: https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632644#page/68/mode/1up

JOHN HOGAN

The baptism for John Hogan took place on December 20, 1831. The family were still living in Caherelly when was John was baptized. The baptism record also shows that the occupation of John’s father James, was a Labourer. John’s mother is Ally Walsh. The godparents were Darcy Grady and Margaret Elligot. John’s baptism is the 8th entry up from the bottom of the left-hand baptism register page at the following link:
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632644#page/72/mode/1up

DENIS HOGAN

Denis Hogan was baptized on November 27, 1833. The family were living in Caherelly at the time of the baptism. His father James is shown to have been a Labourer. The name of his mother is Ally Walsh. The godparents are William Mackey and Mary Brien. The baptism record for Denis is the last entry at the bottom of the right-hand baptism register page at: https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632644#page/75/mode/1up

MICHAEL HOGAN

Michael Hogan was baptized on September 1, 1835. At the time of the baptism he and his family were living in Caherelly. His father was James was a Labourer. His mother is Ally Walsh. The godparents are Wm (William) Bryan and Cath (Catherine) Bryan. The baptism for Michael is the 7th entry down from the top of the right-hand baptism register page at: https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632644#page/78/mode/1up

James Hogan was baptized in 1837 after Michael. The baptism for Mary Hogan is next.

MARY HOGAN

Mary Hogan was baptized on February 6, 1842. She and her family were living in Caherelly at the time of the baptism. Her father John was employed as a Labourer. Her mother is Ally Walsh. I couldn’t make out the last name of the godfather, but his first name was James. The first name of the godmother appears to be, “Horry,” but I could be wrong. Her last name is Shea. Mary’s baptism is the 15th entry down from the top of the left-hand baptism register page at: https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632645#page/7/mode/1up

THADY HOGAN

Thady was baptized on May 29, 1845. He and his family were living in Caherelly at the time of the baptism. His father is James Hogan, a Labourer. His mother is Ally Walsh. One of the sponsors appears to be “Ellon” Shea. To the right of her name appears to be the word, “Lola,” though I don’t know if this refers to another godparent. Thady’s baptism is the 10th entry down from the top of the left-hand baptism register page at:
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632645#page/13/mode/1up

Thady was born the year that the Great Famine in Ireland began. In the Irish Language the famine was called An Gorta Mór, or “The Great Hunger.” For more information about An Gorta Mór, go to the following links:

https://www.irishcentral.com/roots/history/why-we-should-call-it-the-gr…

https://billygogan.com/an-gorta-mor/

James Hogan and Ally Walsh would have been married in the Catholic Church in Ballybricken. Their children would have been baptized in this church as well. My own great grandmother, Ellen Quinn, was born in Ballybricken North in 1837, and was baptized in the same church, and so would have probably been familiar with your Hogan ancestors.

As you probably know, the Catholic Church in Ballybricken is called St. Ailbe’s. The current church structure was built circa 1950, which means your ancestors and my ancestors would not have worshipped in this particular church structure, though I believe the newer church was built on, or close to the site of the former church structure. To read more about the current St. Ailbe’s Catholic Church, go to the Buildings of Ireland website link at:
http://www.buildingsofireland.ie/niah/search.jsp?type=record&county=LC&…

You can also see a map of Ballybricken and the church, from the Buildings of Ireland link at:
http://webgis.buildingsofireland.ie/HistoricEnvironment/?REG_NO=21902309

Now, compare the Buildings of Ireland modern map, with an Ordnance Survey Map of the R.C. Chapel in Ballybricken North, and you’ll see they are in the same location. The Ordnance Survey Map was produced between 1829 and 1841, and can be viewed at the following Ordnance Survey Ireland (OSI) website link at:
http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V2,564619,646503,11,7

A Google Map shows that St. Ailbe’s Catholic Church is 1.9 miles north of Caherelly. See the map at:
https://tinyurl.com/y97n62aa

For a Google Street View of St. Ailbe’s Catholic Church, go to: https://tinyurl.com/ybrnabqn

For a Google Street View of Caherelly, see: https://tinyurl.com/ycgozdc4

I next wanted to see if I could locate James Hogan in an Irish property tax record known as Griffiths Valuation. I wanted to see if he was living in Caherelly.

Griffiths Valuation, was enumerated in the 32 counties of Ireland between 1847 and 1864. The valuation for County Limerick was completed by the year 1852.

Unlike a census, Griffiths Valuation did not enumerate individual members of a family, such as husband, wife, and children in a household residence. Those named in the valuation were individuals who paid to lease property. Each person who paid to lease the property was called an “Occupier.” The other person listed in Griffiths Valuation was the person who owned the property, or who worked as the middleman for the owner. This person was called the “Immediate Lessor.”

You can access Griffiths Valuation transcriptions and original copies for free at the askaboutireland website link at: http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml

I found the person I believe may be your James Hogan in Griffiths Valuation. But, the Valuation shows that he only leased a Garden in the townland of Caherelly East. This means at the time he and his family would have lived in a home whose lease was paid by another person.

The Griffiths Valuation transcription for James Hogan is below

No. and Letters of Reference to Map: 24
Civil Parish: Caherelly
Townland: Caherelly East
Occupier: James Hogan
Immediate Lessor: James Penny
Description of Tenement: Garden
Area of Land: 0 Acres, 0 Roods, 26 Perches
Rateable Annual Valuation of Land: 3 Shillings
Rateable Annual Valuation of Buildings: -
Total Annual Valuation of Rateable Property: 3 Shillings

Source Information: Ask About Ireland: http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml
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Griffiths Valuation shows that James Hogan leased his garden from an Immediate Lessor named James Penny. James Penny may have actually been the middleman for the owner of the property. The garden was small, less than an acre, and was valued at 3 Shillings. James Hogan would not have had to pay a tax on the garden as only those holdings over 5 Pounds were subject to the tax.

The map number at the beginning of the Valuation, Map 24, refers to the location of James’s garden in Caherelly East on an Ordnance Survey Map from the time period, much like the Ordnance Survey Maps you saw earlier for the location of St. Ailbe’s Catholic Church in Ballybricken North. However, I haven’t found a way to either link or copy the Ordnance Survey Map from the Ask About Ireland entry of Griffiths valuation for James Hogan. But, I can show you where Map 24 is in Caherelly east on the Ordnance Survey map from Ordnance survey Ireland. See the map at: http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V2,566972,644052,10,7

James's garden is located just about dead center of the map, where you’ll see a very tiny red cross over a field next to a road. This is where the Map 24 location is in the Griffiths Valuation entry for James Hogan in Caherelly East.

JAMES HOGAN AND ALLY WALSH

According to the NLI website, baptism records for the Ballybricken & Bohermore Catholic Parish go back to the year 1800, while marriage records commence in the year 1805. Because James and Ally were married in 1837, it’s possible there would be baptism records for them in the Ballybricken parish registers.

I first looked for the baptism of James Hogan. Having been married in 1829 I figured he would have been born and baptized circa 1809 give or take a few years. I didn’t find a baptism record for James in the Ballybricken Parish. He may have been born and baptized in another parish, but I would need to know what parish that was and the names of his parents, especially his mother’s maiden name to uncover a baptism record, that is, if a baptism record exists for him. There are too many baptism records for children named James Hogan in County Limerick for the early 1800s to surmise which, if any, pertain to the James Hogan who would go on to marry Ally Walsh in 1829.

I only found the baptism record for two children named Ally Walsh/Alicia Walsh that may possibly refer to your Ally Walsh. But because we don’t know the names of her parents, it’s impossible to know if this is the Ally Walsh in your ancestry. She was baptized in the Galbally and Aherlow Catholic Parish, County Tipperary, in June of 1811. Her baptism entry is very difficult to decipher because of the handwriting and the placement of several baptisms jumbled together in the register. Ally’s parents are Thos (Thomas) Walsh, a “Labourer,” and Betty Ryan. The residence of Ally and her parents at the time of the baptism was Knockballymaloe, which on modern maps is spelled Knockballymaloo. A Google Map shows that Knockballymaloo, Tipperary, by the shortest modern-day route, is 17 miles southeast of Caherelly. See the map at: https://tinyurl.com/ychyvn87

It’s possible this baptism could refer to your Ally Walsh, as she was living less than 20 miles away from Caherelly, but there is no way knowing this is your Ally Walsh for certain with the scant information there is available about her.

Ally’s baptism record is the second entry up from the bottom of the right-hand baptism register page at: https://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632715#page/20/mode/1up

I couldn’t make out the first name of one of the godparents in the baptism record for Ally, but his last name appears to be Downey. The godmother is Mary Mullins. To the right of Mary’s name there appears to be the notation “Gal P.” I believe this stands for “Galbally Parish.”

I also found the baptism for an Alicia Walsh. She was baptized in St. Patrick’s Catholic Church, Limerick City, on October 1, 1812. Her parents are Joanne (John) Walsh and Maria Casgriff. There is only the last name for one of the godparents in the baptism record. His last name is Driscoll. The godmother is Alicia Walsh.

The baptism register page is very faded. It appears that Alicia’s baptism is the 4th entry down from the top of the left-hand baptism register page at: https://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000635037#page/9/mode/1up

Also concerning Ally Hogan, I believe I found her death record at the irishgenealogy.ie website. Like the Find My Past website, irishgenealogy.ie is also free to use, though it is still a work in progress. For example, copies of original birth records are available for the years 1864 to 1916. Marriage records are available from 1870 to 1941, and death records from 1878 to 1966. Indexes however, for births, marriages, and death are available from 1864, though the indexes do not give a lot of information.

In the death record Ally’s first name is recorded as Alice. Her last name is Hogan. She died at age 74 in “Caherilly,” Limerick on Christmas Day, 25 December 1878. The death record notes that her occupation was, “Labourer’s Widow.” The cause of death was, “Bronchitis 3 weeks. No Med attendant." The person who reported Alice’s death to the local register was Mary Quilty, who was, “Present at death.” Mary’s residence is recorded as Loughgur. She reported the death to the local registrar, A.E. Connolly, who recorded Alice’s death in the Limerick Registration District on 24 March 1879. I’ve attached the death record to this reply.

The question is, who was Mary Quilty? I believe she was Alice Hogan’s married daughter who was living in Lough Gur, and who came up to be with her mother before her mother died.

A Google Map shows that Lough Gur is 8.2 miles southwest of Caherelly. See the map at: https://tinyurl.com/y8vbf64o

As you saw above Alice (Ally) Hogan was a widow when she died in 1878, but we don’t know when her husband James died. If he also died in 1878 there would be a full death record for him. If he died before 1878 there will not be a full death record for him at the irishgenealogy.ie website. There will be an index for his death but indexes do not give you the information you need to positively identify the person you are looking for. At this point in the research the irishgenealogy.ie website had been down for two days, and so I could not see if James Hogan had died in 1878, the same year as Alice.

The information in Alice's death record prompted me to look for the marriage record of a Mary Hogan, whose father was James Hogan, and who married a Quilty. I didn’t uncover a full marriage record at irishgenealogy.ie, as digitized marriage records are not available online before 1870. I then figured that if Mary had been baptized in 1842, she would have probably been married sometime in the 1860s.

I next went to the Family Search/Latter Day Saints (LDS) website to see if I could find a transcription of the civil marriage of Mary Hogan and a Mr. Quilty. The LDS website can be found at: https://www.familysearch.org/

I was in luck in that I found the marriage transcription showing that the marriage of 28 year old John Quilty and 23 year old Mary Hogan was recorded in Caherconlish, Limerick, on 19 February 1868. Mary’s year of birth is given as 1845, but we know from her baptism record that she was actually born in 1842. Ages in Irish marriage records, death records, and census records, are sometimes off by a few years, and in some cases, off by several years.

Mary Hogan’s father is recorded as James Hogan. John Quilty’s father is William Quilty. Unfortunately for family historians, the names of the mothers of the groom and bride were not recorded by the Irish government in these early civil marriage records.

The marriage transcription from the LDS website is below:

Ireland Marriages, 1619-1898

Name John Quilty Birth Date 1840
Age 28
Father's Name William Quilty

Spouse's Name Mary Hogan
Spouse's Birth Date 1845
Spouse's Age 23
Spouse's Father's Name James Hogan

Event Date 19 Feb 1868
Event Place Caherconlish, Limerick, Ireland

Citing this Record
"Ireland Marriages, 1619-1898," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGDG-GTD : 10 February 2018), John Quilty and Mary Hogan, 19 Feb 1868; citing Caherconlish, Limerick, Ireland, reference p507 ln36, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 101,525.
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The full civil marriage record for John Quilty and Mary Hogan can be ordered from the General Register Office (GRO) in Roscommon Town, County Roscommon. If you would like to order the marriage record, I can send you instructions. Photocopies of the record are 4 Euros.

By way of explanation civil registration began in Ireland on 1 April 1845, when the government commenced with recording Protestant church and civil marriages. Catholic marriages were not recorded at the time at the request of the Catholic hierarchy in Ireland, as the clergy didn’t want the government to have the names of its parishioner due to past abuses of the government under English rule toward Catholics. Registration of births, marriages, and deaths for all religious denominations began in Ireland in 1 January 1864, and continues to this day.

I now wanted to see if I could find John and Mary Quilty in the 1901 and 1911 census enumerations of Ireland. You can search the 1901 and 1911 census returns for Ireland at the National Archives of Ireland link at: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/

I found 63 year old John and 40 year old Mary Quilty in the 1901 census living in an address of house 16, Loughgur, Knockainy, County Limerick. The number 16 is not the house number but refers to the number designation on the 1901 census form. John Quilty is shown to have been born in County Limerick. He was a farmer who could read and speak both Irish and English. He was Roman Catholic as was Mary, who is shown to be 56 years old and born in County Limerick. The census shows that Mary could read and write.

See the census transcription below from the National Archives of Ireland:

1901 Census of Ireland

Residents of a house 44 in Loughgur (Knockainy, Limerick)

Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses

Quilty John 63 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic Co Limerick Farmer Read Irish and English Married
Quilty Mary 56 Female Wife Roman Catholic Co Limerick Read and write Married

Source Information: National Archives of Ireland: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/
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You can view a copy of the original 1901 census for John and Mary Quilty at the following National Archives of Ireland link: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000982865/

In the bottom right-hand corner of the census you’ll see that John Quilty signed the document. To the left of his signature is the signature of the constable who collected the census. The constable’s name is Michael Carden. Michael Carden was also a “Witness,” to John Quilty’s signature, as you’ll see the constable’s name under John Quilty’s signature.

I now looked for John and Mary Quilty in the 1911 census of Ireland. In this census however, 72 year old Mary Quilty is shown to be the Head of Household, a farmer, and a widow. She was Roman Catholic, and could read and write. In the household with her are her two unmarried children born in County Limerick. They are 40 year old Alie, who could read and write, and 35 year old William, a farmer’s Son, who could also read and write.

The 1911 census transcription below is from the National Archives of Ireland:

1911 Census of Ireland

Residents of a house 16 in Loughgur (Knockainy, Limerick)

Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy
Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Years Married Children Born Children Living

Quilty Mary 72 Female Head of Family Roman Catholic Co Limerick Farmer Read and write Widow
Quilty Alie 40 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Co Limerick Read and write Single
Quilty William 35 Male Son Roman Catholic Co Limerick Farmers Son Read and write Single

Source Information: National Archives of Ireland: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/
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In the 1901 census, Mary Quilty’s age is recorded as 56 years old, placing her year of birth circa 1845. In the 1911 census her age is 72 years old, placing her year of birth circa 1839. As noted earlier, ages in marriage records, death records and census records can be inaccurate.

You can view a copy of the original 1911 census for Mary Quilty and her children at the National Archives of Ireland website at: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai002726015/

In the bottom right-hand corner of the census form you’ll see Mary Quilty’s signature. To the left is the signature of James Holohan, the constable who collected the census form from the household.

The 1911 census shows that Mary Quilty’s husband John was deceased. This means that John Quilty died between the enumeration of the 1901 census and the enumeration of the 1911 census. This knowledge prompted me to look for John Quilty’s Civil Registration death cert at the irishgenealogy.ie website.

I found John Quilty’s civil death record, showing he died in Caherelly at age 64 years on 2 January 1904. The cause of death is “Bronchitis. No Med Attendant.” The person who reported the death to the local registrar, and who was present at the death is recorded as John’s wife, Hanora Quilty, whose residence was Caherelly. I am wondering if Hanora was Mary’s middle name, or if the registrar made an error in recording the first name of John’s wife as Hanora rather than Mary. Or, could Hanora have actually been John’s daughter, rather than his wife? I would have to do some additional research to see if John Quilty and Mary Hogan had a daughter named Hanora or Honora. The 1911 census only shows two children in their household with Mary in Loughgur. These are 40 year old Alie and 35 year old William.

Mary’s death was recorded by the Assistant Registrar, W. Bourke, on 1 June 1904.

I now wanted to see if I could uncover the civil registration death record for Mary Quilty. I believe I found her death record, which shows she died at age 72 in Grange, Limerick on 9 November 1912. She is shown to have been a widow at the time of death. The cause of death was, “probably Hemiplegia and acute cystitis one week. No Medical Attendant.” The person who reported the death to the local Assistant Registrar, Michael Shanahan, was Mary’s daughter, Alice Quilty, who was present at the death. Alice likely refers to Allie. Alice’s residence is Grange, which indicates that her mother was probably living with her when she died. Michael Shanahan recorded the death on 7 December 1912.

A Google Map shows that Grange, by the shortest modern day route, is only 2.9 miles north of Lough Gur. See the map at: https://tinyurl.com/y76xvqef

For a Google Street View of Grange, see:

I now went to the Latter Day Saints (LDS) website to see if I could uncover the civil birth transcriptions for the children of John Quilty and Mary Hogan. If I found the birth transcriptions of any of John and Mary’s children, I would use these transcriptions as guides to access the full birth records at the irishgenealogy.ie website, as the full birth records give more information than the transcriptions.

The LDS transcriptions show the births of:

Margaret Quilty, 1869
Honora Quilty, 1871
Alice Quilty, 1873
William Quilty, 1875
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John and Allie did have a daughter named Honora (also spelled Hanora). I suspect that the assistant registrar, W. Bourke, who recorded John Quilty’s death in 1904, mistakenly wrote that Hanora was his wife, rather than his daughter.

Concerning the birth records of Margaret, Honora, Alice, and William Quilty, I haven’t attached the birth records from the irishgenealogy.ie website to this reply, as files have to be less than 8 MB to reply. I’m not sure how much space these birth records take up, and so I’ve described each one below:

MARGARET QUILTY

Margaret Quilty was born in Kncokroe, Knockany (actually spelled Knockainy), County Limerick, on 13 February 1869. Her father is John Quilty, a Labourer residing in Knockroe. Her mother is Mary Quilty, formerly Hogan. A person named Margaret Punch of Knockroe, reported the birth to the local assistant registrar, Mat Casey, who recorded the birth in the Bruff Registration District on 15 February 1869.

HONORA QUILTY

Honora Quilty was born in “Knockrue,” “Knockaney,” on 22 June, 1871. Her father is John Quilty, a farmer residing in Knockrue, Knockaney. Honora’s mother is Margaret Quilty, formerly Hogan. This is also another case where the registrar recorded the wrong name, in this case supplanting Margaret for Mary as Honora’s mother. John Quilty, the father, of Knockrue, Knockaney, reported the birth to the local registrar, J. Meehan, who recorded the birth in the Bruff Registration District on 4 July 1871.

ALICE QUILTY

Alice Quilty was born in Louchgur, County Limerick, on 11 May 1873. Her father is John Quilty, a farmer residing in Loughgur. Alice’s mother is Mary Quilty, formerly Hogan. A person named Mary Hickie, who may have been a midwife, reported the birth to the local Deputy Registrar, John Sullivan, who recorded the birth in the Bruff Registration District on 23 May 1873.

WILLIAM QUILTY

William Quilty was born in Loughgur, County Limerick, on 7 June 1875. Her father is John Quilty, a farmer, residing in Loughgur. William’s mother is Mary Hogan, who was present at the birth, and who reported the birth to the local Deputy Registrar, John Sullivan. John Sullivan recorded William’s birth in the Bruff Registration District on 29 June 1875.

I hope that at least some of this information has been of interest.

Best Wishes Cate.

Dave Boylan

Dear Dave

Thank you so much for such a thoughtful and comprehensive reply. I am overwhelmed by your generosity of spirit and kindness to have taken the time to provide so much detail. I telephoned my mother to read your reply out to her as it is James and Ally that are her mothers (my Nan) grandparents. My mum is now 85, and she was so thrilled to have so much more knowledge of her family heritage, as am I. I am sure I can now continue our family history in Ireland with a degeree of certainty. Thank you again, your help is so much appreciated. 

Cate

You're very welcome Cate, and thank you for your kind reply.

My best wishes to you and your dear mum.

God Bless.

Dave