Hi i am looking for info on Francis J Kennedy birth about 1890s to 1900s he married Elizabeth Small who is also from Belturbet she was the daughter of Hugh and Elizabeth Small they lived at the Lawns, Elizabeth Kennedy (nee Small ) died in 1940 in Liverpool these people are my Grandparents all there children have now passed away including my mum Nora and all my Greatgrand parents children have passed away as well, i know Francis Kennedy remarried and his children were raised in Belturbet by the Smalls, and he stayed in England there has always been a mystery surrounding Francis that i could and still not get an answer too is there anyone out there that can fill in the gaps....
Thankyou
Wednesday 22nd Nov 2017, 12:14PM
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Nancy:
Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out!
I found a possible birth record for Francis Kennedy in 1891 in the general area around Belturbet. Also located the 1901 and 1911 census records for that family. Did not find Elizabeth Small in the 1901 or 1911 censuses in Cavan and there is no civil marriage record for the couple. I would guess they may have married in England.
Let me know if you think this is the correct Francis Kennedy.
Roger McDonnell
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_retur…
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cavan/Kilconny/Coragh/…
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cavan/Kilconny/Coragh/…
Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
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Hi Nancy and Roger,
there was a Frank Kennedy aged 12 in the Lawn, Belturbet in the 1911 census - not sure if it is the right one though.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cavan/Belturbet/The_La…
There was also a Small family at The Lawn but no Elizabeth and I could not find a birth record for her when I searched from 1911 onwards.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cavan/Belturbet/The_La…
Jim Vaughan, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
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Hi Jim!
I should have thought about searching for Frank. You may have the right Francis but I could not locate a civil birth record for him.
Roger
Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
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Possible match for Elizabeth - as 'Lizzie', parents names match those mentioned... Small household, Deanery Street, Belturbet 1911
Shane Wilson, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
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Hi Shane!
Nice find!
Roger
Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
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Hi Roger,
that birth record was bugging me and I was able to get Franks' siblings records. I think the answer is that he was named Hugh Francis Kennedy - record is July 1899.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_retur…
Jim Vaughan, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
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Jim:
Great work! I'm sure Nancy will really appreciate the records you and Shane found.
Roger
Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
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I see probable births for three children to Francis and Elizabeth in Cavan Regisration district between 1936 and 1939, but no sign of a marriage in ROI, NI, England/Wales or Scotland.
Shane Wilson, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
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Hi All
Thankyou all for your replies, i do know Frank Kennedy lived at the Lawns do not know his parents name or any siblings he had cannot find anything on Ancestry, its strange that Elizabeth small cannot be found on the Census as she would still have been in Belturbet at that time i wonder why that is and i suppose its possible she married in England as i think she got married in about 1925 but again i cannot find any marriage details for England, this is one big mystery to me that i have been trying to find out about for years now, i am pretty sure there must be distant relatives of both the Kennedys and the Smalls still living in Belturbet/surrounding areas but it is finding them maybe they would have stories passed down...
Thanks
Nancy
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Nancy:
Shane located a 1911 census record for the Smalls. See his reply above
Roger
Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘