Kilcoyne Family in Charlestown

Jill:

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Roger McDonnell

Hi, I have found Margaret, 
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_retur…
​this is where to look for the records.

1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Sligo/Achonry_West/Clo…

​1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Sligo/Achonry_West/Clo…

You will be able to find other records from .........https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie     site.
Margot

Hi Margot!

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Roger McDonnell

Sorry,
​ Margot

Hi Margot  James Kilcoyne and Catherine Kilcoyne were married in Charlestown church on the 27-02-1865 ................................   Sponsors were Thomas Horkan-----Mary Horkan  ..There are no baptisims recorded                               .....James Kilcoyne was from Cloonaughil 2 miles from Charlestown in Co Sligo  ......if you go to askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation      ....................Seamus Bermingham

Hi Seamus, the Kilcoynes are actually an inquiry I made. Would you share your source for James and Catherine's marriage? I had come across a similar record dated 28-02-1865 in Lowpark, Swinford, but was unsure. Also, I have found civil records for a Patrick born 12-03-1868 and Oney born 14-06-1871. Could Oney be Hanora/Nora? Also, there is a family which seems right in Cloonlaughil in the 1901 and 1911 censuses, headed by Patrick in 1911. Do you think I may be right? Also, how do you pronounce "Cloonlaughil"? I've been discussing it with relatives who plan to visit Ireland this summer and would like to be saying it correctly! Thank you for all your help. Jill

Jill:

Let me know if you don't hear back from Seamus. He was having troubing accessing the site earlier. Oney is a nickname for Hanora/Nora. My grandmother who lived about ten miles east of Charlestown was  Nora Roddy but in the 1901 census she was shown as Onnie.

Roger

Roger, I have not heard any further from Seamus. Any advice is welcomed. 

Jill:

I just sent Seamus a followup e-mail at his Ireland Reaching Out e-mail address. If you have not heard from him in five days, let me know and I will send him a Facebook message.

Roger

Thank you.

Roger- I still have not heard from Seamus. I am most interested in his source for the 1865 Kilcoyne marriage and the pronunciation of "Cloonlaughil". Thank you again for your help. Jill

Hi Jill sorry for the delay in getting back to you James and Catherine's marrage record is from the church the name Kilcoyne is spelt as Kilcoine in the churck record's . the civle record that you have is correct . Lowpark is not the townland that they came from it is a civil district in mayo . Cloonlaughil..... Cloon-nau-hill ..... Cloon-naug-hill .hope this is of help ..I know where the homestead is I have been trying to get in touch the pressent owner Joe Durkin whose mother was Kilcoyne .and a cousin of his Ambrose Fleming whose was also Kilcoyne  when I have more information I will let you know  .What date are your relations comming to Ireland let me know and I will meet them

Seamus

Seamus, My uncle,Jack Hannigan, will be in Ireland for a week of golf at the end of July. They will be staying in Ballina 22 Jul-24 Jul. Is there a direct way that he may contact you? If you prefer, his email is jvhannigan@comcast.net. I wish I were the one coming over. I was as close as Knock when I was there, but that was before I knew where my relatives were from. I guess that means I'll have to return☘️. Thank you. Jill

Seamus, if you'd rather contact me directly my email is jillada66@hotmail.com. My uncle and his friends will be in Ireland from 21-30 July for golf. Is the Charlestown church from 1865 still around? Thanks for all your help. Jill

Nora Kilcoyne 2601 Robert's ave Philadelphia , born in Cloonloghil co Sligo as you say , married John Halligan of Tavneena , Kilbeagh , co Mayo , has 4 kids , John dies young , Nora has another kid in 1914 , Nora is a hero of mine as she takes in many newly arrived Irish fresh off the boat , Bones , Jordan's, Finns and kilcoynes from Kilgarriff Charlestown , Kilcoynes from Curry co Sligo and Fitzpatricks from Erritt co Roscommon , all related to her in some way and all found living with her in the US census . She also found so many of them jobs at the Medvale steel plant in Philadelphia. Tommy

Tommy, Are you somehow related to Nora? She was my 2great-grandmother. Her son James was my great-grandfather. Do you have a source for her marriage to John Halligan? The name has somehow been misspelled or changed to Hannigan when they came to the US. That’s my mother’s maiden name. John drowned in 1906; story on the front page of Philadelphia Enquirer. They are all buried in Holy Sepulchre Cemetery in Philadelphia. I am very interested in any information you have. Jill Adamonis

 Hi Jill , 

                       I didnt know that John had drowned http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Mayo/Kilbeagh/Tawnyinah_Middle/ , this is the village that I believe that John Halligan came from , right beside Knock airport . This is knowledge gained from my investigations into Nora Kilcoyne here in Ireland and from word of mouth from Kilcoyne family members . My mother is a Kilcoyne from Curry co Sligo , ( Fuel Drumbaun ) , in the early 1900,s 4 of my grandfathers brothers and 2 sisters went to Philadelphia . All 4 brothers on arrival went to stay with Nora who was a widow by this point at Roberts ave , they all had jobs at the Midvale steel plant , where I believe John had also worked until his death , James Kilcoyne , Patrick , John , and Thomas  . While the other brothers moved on , Patrick and Nora stayed together and had a son in 1914 who died young of TB ( 1941/42 ) shortly before her death Patrick and Nora married , Patrick , although I believe they were cousins which may have delayed the wedding until now . I was sad when you said that Maggie had died young , must have been shortly after she had arrived , on Maggie's arrival form she is collected by John Kilcoyne , who she describes as a cousin , John was Patricks brother . As I said I have always admired Nora , her home seems to have been a halfway house for new arrivals for many of her cousins and in laws . 

As for the Halligans , I have never researched them and I have seen the name twisted into Hennigan , Henigan etc , the word is that the Halligans and Kilcoynes would always greet and Chat when meeting in Charlestown , right down until very recently . Its plausible that Halligan when pronounced in a good Mayo accent would easily sound like Hennigan to an American , and its probable that John was not literate and just went with the flow . Its also Possible that John and Nora knew each other before  America , as they may have met on market days in Charlestown .

 Its nice to connect and I would say that there is a strong possibility we are related , Kilcoyne is not a common name and I would say all the Kilcoynes around here are related in some way ,  Thomas Spellman