I am searching for the family of Thomas Kiernan and Mary McGovern. Thomas born c. 1807/08 I believe in the parish of Granard. They emigrated to New York c. 1846/47 with their children Anne b. 1838, Edward b. 1840, Bridget b. 1842, and Patrick b. 1845 although I cannot find any immigration records for this family in NY. Other US records show this family's close connection to Fagans, Bradys point me to the town lands of Killeen or Coolcor in the parish of Granard. Thomas died in NYC age 46 in 1854. I believe Thomas had at least one brother Michael Kiernan born c. 1814 came to US in 1835. I believe Mary has at least one brother Michael McGovern born c. 1830 also living in NY by 1870.
Any assistance or advice would be appreciated. A connection to a local historian or elder Kiernan from the area would be great since I am planning on visiting the area this May 19th to 21st, 2016.
GWDillmann
Friday 25th Mar 2016, 06:28PMMessage Board Replies
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GW Dillmann:
Hello again! Two possible Thomas Kiernan records found in Granard RC on Roots Ireland. See below. I also found an 1819 baptismal record for a Michael Kiernan in Granard with the same parents as the first Thomas record below. I was unable to find the marriage record and who know maybe it occurred in Abbeylara.
Roger McDonnell
Name:Thomas KiernanDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:20-Oct-1810Address:Not RecordedParish/District:GRANARDGender:MaleCountyCo. Longford
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:Michael KiernanMother:Catherine MonochanOccupation:Not Recorded
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Informant 1:Michael MonochanSponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Mary MonochanName:Thomas KiernanDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:13-Mar-1810Address:Not RecordedParish/District:GRANARDGender:MaleCountyCo. Longford
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:Thomas KiernanMother:Mary SullivanOccupation:Not Recorded
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:John RetitSponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Mary PetitName:Michael KiernanDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:03-Jun-1819Address:GranardParish/District:GRANARDGender:MaleCountyCo. Longford
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:Michael KiernanMother:Catherine MonahanOccupation:Not Recorded
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:Patrick KiernanSponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Brigid MacDonallCastlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
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Roger, thanks for the info.. these Granard births are worth me pursuing some more.. I see you replied to all 3 of my requests ( Co. Meath & parish of Abbeylara ). As you can see I have multiple conflicting inputs about my Kiernan ancestors. I have already search most parish records, which ones that are available, and the Co. Longford Library & Archives as well.
GWDillmann
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Hello, I might be able to help you with this if you are still looking. I do a lot of NYC research. It is possible frquently now to get parents names off of marriage and death records, so very possible we can find the family that way. Also, the baptism and marriage parish records are often available and I have access to those databases. If you are still looking, let me know specifically where you are with your search and what you need. I would also be willing to excange email address. Kind regards, Peggy
peggy
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Peggy, thanks for the interest and offer. I believe I have now found my family in the RC parish of Oldcastle, Co. Meath records. I have found Thomas and Mary marriage ( 1833 ) and their 5 children's baptisms given it required some effort due to variants in the Kiernan and McGovern names. Researching the children's baptismal sponsors I believe they all came from the parish of Moylagh and in the townlands of either Milltown or Springhall. I have done alot of research in NYC of the family once they arrived ( earliest record is 1850 US Census.) and have all appropriate death, births, marriage, census records. The one record that eludes me is their immgration records. Last son, James was baptized in Ireland in Nov 1848 and I know they were in NYC by August 1850. Also the oldest son, Edward, born in Feb 1840 in Ireland disappears from the records after the 1855 NYC Census. I always think he probably was drafted during the civil war and never returned. He would have been the right age. Any further contact you can reach me on gerrydillmann@optonline.net. Thanks.
GWDillmann
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Just a possibility- have not seen the full record: First name(s)EdwardLast nameKiernanSexMaleAge07Birth year1842OccupationChild, YoungsterDeparture portLiverpoolDeparture countryIrelandDestination portNew YorkDestination stateNew YorkArrival year1849Arrival date02-May-1849Ship nameSilas GrimshawRolePassengerNARA publication numberM237Record setNew York Passenger Lists & ArrivalsCategoryImmigration & TravelSubcategoryPassenger ListsCollections fromAmericas, United States
peggy
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Peggy, thanks for update. I have seen this record and am becoming more convinced that this Edward is the son of Thomas & Mary. The timing better fits my expected timeline. What is frustrating is that it he appears to be traveling alone with none of his siblings or parents. I need to research more thru the immigration records.
GWDillmann