Looking for information on Fleming's
mssunset
Sunday 13th Mar 2016, 01:20AMMessage Board Replies
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Mssunset:
Please provide more information on your Flemings. There were four Flemings in the 1856 Griffiths Valuation head of household listing for Tuam parish. http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths/galway/tuam.htm
Roger McDonnell
Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
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Looking for Thomas Fleming of Tuam.
mssunset
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Hi, there are a few Fleming families still around Tuam. There is an area called the Weirs where a good few of the families originated. My great-grandfather John Fleming was born there but married into the Bermingham family in Cloonfush. My grandfather was Thomas Fleming - he passed away in 1946. My father is also Thomas Fleming, & lives in Cloonfush.
If you give me an idea of which time period you're looking for your Thomas Fleming in, I'll try to help you.
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HI BFleming, my grandmother, Bridget Fleming, daughter of Patrick and Mary (Concannon). Bridget was born April 1870. She came to Boston in 1891. That's really all that I know about her life in Ireland. She did have siblings who came to America around the same time. I don't know about the ones that may have stayed in Ireland. Your Grandfather must be about the same age. My Grandother (Bessie) died in Boston in 1943. I would think that we are talking about a timeline of the mid 1800's. Do you think there is a connection with these Flemings?
Thanks for your response and your help,
Laura
mssunset
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Hi,
Bridget Fleming's family lived in Rinkippin, Tuam. She had 9 sibling birth records in Tuam. Her brother Michael Fleming married in Tuam in 1892, living with spouse / one son Martin J Fleming aged 6 at Carrowpeter, Tuam in 1901.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Galway/Tuam_Rural_Part…
Another sibling Patrick Fleming residing in Rinkippin in 1911, married Ellen Ruane in 1903, 5 children born / 4 alive in 1911.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Galway/Tuam_Rural__par…
Regards
Gerard, Parish Liaison Lackagh
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Thanks so much for your research. Do you know if there are any Flemings still living in the area?
Laura
mssunset
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BFleming: I believe we are related. You mention that John Fleming (b. 1846) married into the Bermingham family. I suspect (but am not totally certain) that John married Bridget Bermingham, daughter of John Bermingham (1833-1897) and Bridget Donoghoe (1821-1913). John Bermingham was the brother of my ggg grandfather Redmond Bermingham (1825-1862). I believe that the family was centered in Cloonfush, and over time all of the Berminghams emigrated out, with the exception of the daughter who married into the Fleming family.
I visted Ireland in September last year (I live in New York) and visited Cloonfush and drove to the end of the road where I found the cemetery. One of the graves was for a Bridget Birmingham (1821-1913) who, I believe, would have been your gg grandmother. I have attached hereto a photo of her gravestone. Does any of this sound familiar?
Are there still family living in Cloonfush? Do you know of any other resources which I may access to find out more about the Berminghams of Cloonfush (related families include the Kennedys and the Hessions).
Best
Dan Birmingham, New YorkDan Birmingham
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Dan:
If you don't hear from BFleming in ten days, let me know and we can try to contact the person. (He/she should have received an alert message from your posting
Roger McDonnell
Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
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Hi Dan
I'm in Cloonfush with my father at the moment; he always knew that we were related to Donoghues (who were from Claretuam) but wasn't quite sure of the relationship - so thanks for clarifying that. Recent generations of the Donoghue family have been lawyers in Tuam - there's a little history on www.taodonoghue.com (note the 'State Solicitor' reference is similar to a DA).
John Fleming came from the Weirs & married Bridget Bermingham in 1878. We have a copy of the marriage settlement (deeds).
The old Bermingham house is no longer standing (one gable wall remains) but my parents still have a photo of it, taken in the 1950's (we believe). They will dig this out tomorrow & post it. I will also take a walk tomorrow & take a few snaps. The house is in Cloonfush, but set back a little from the road - see the attached map.
My father remembers another Bermingham family in Tuam in the 1940's/1950's, who lived at the corner of Galway Road & Weir Road. He thinks they may have been related, but is not 100% sure.
We also have a photo of my grandfather Thomas Fleming (1887-1946). Note the spelling - in the 1901 Census it was recorded as Flemming. This was attributed to the Census Recorder & his interpretation of Fleming!
If you want to get in touch by e-mail, please do not hesitate to contact me at brendan<dot>fleming<at>btinternet<dot>com
I am happy to set you in contact with my father who would be delighted to help you further if he can.
Best wishes
Brendan Fleming