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Looking for O'HARA / CONCANNON family relatives in Ireland and England

I am the last O'Hara by name and living in Manchester, England.

My father was Terance O'Hara born 7th June 1934 born Mancheter England.  I have traced back his father as Patrick O'Hara born Widnes on 17/12/1887.  (Patrick married Henrietta Birtwhistle from England).  My Great Grandad was John O'Hara who came over from Ireland when he was in his twenties, he settled originally in Widnes.  He married Catherine Concannon in Widnes on 9/7/1885.  The marriage certificate gives the age of John as 28 years old when he was married and Catherine a little younger by approx 5 years.   This makes John born around 1856/7.   On the marriage certificate it states John's father as Bryan O'Hara and the entry states deceased at the time of marriage.  Catherine Concannon's father was called Martin Concannon and he was still alive on the marriage certificate entry.

Census details for a John O'Hara show he worked at Alkali Works, Widness aged 27 years, he was a boarder, lodging on a street in Widnes.  The 1891 Census shows my Great Grandad John O'Hara's Census married with Catherine O'Hara (Concannon).  Both Catherine and John lived on the same street a few doors apart and on John's details it says he was a boarder.   The marriage certificate details show John worked at Alkali Works, Widnes so believe it may be the same John O'Hara as the lodger entry which must have been done the year before.

The 1891 Census show John and Catherine O'Hara both stating born Ireland (nothing more about the County place of birth).  It shows some siblings to include twins of a girl and boy.   In 1901 Census it shows John and Catherine O'Hara (Concannon) and shows John born Tyholland Co. Monaghan Ireland.  It gives details of Catherine as "Kate" and born Staffs (Staffordshire, England).  The age for Catherine is not correct on this census.  Further one of the siblings was given as Edmond instead of Edward.  It is the same family as the 1891 Census as the other siblings to include the twins are still there.  In the 1911 Census all the details are correct except again the place of birth for John states Ireland and Catherine Roscommon.

John and Catherine siblings taken from the 1901 Census were Ellen 15 years, Patrick (my grandad) John and Annie, twins 12 years, Agnes 10 years, Andrew 6 years and Edward 4 years.  All say born Widnes on the Census.

I understand that a lot of the Census were listed incorrect.  I still don't know where John O'Hara and Bryan O'Hara his father are from.

I have posted on this site recently and been informed that the O'Hara details do not look correct for Tyholland and more of Galway area.

The only living relative I have from the O'Hara side is an elderly aunt. She believed her dad Patrick O'Hara was born Galway and always thought he was born Ireland but this is not the case as it was Widnes.  It does seem to fit with the information received off this site.

I was informed also from this site that there is no John/Bryan O'Hara registred in Tyholland/Monaghan area but there is in Galway and was directed to the Griffiths Valuation Site.  I have looked at the site and notice a Bryan O'Hara for Galway in the Killimor-Bullogue (Galway) area.  The year the entry is made is 1856 this being either the same year or the year before John O'Hara's year of birth.

I am therefore asking if there is anyone who can assist on how I can trace any further details for John and Bryan O'Hara and also any of the Concannon family who I believe is from Roscommon as my elderly aunt had told me this also prior to trying to any research of ancestory I have carried out.

Thank you vey much

Jacqueline O'Hara, Manchester

 

 

 

 

Wednesday 23rd Apr 2014, 02:37PM

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  • Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out!

    I have passed your query to a volunteer and expect you will hear from him soon.

    Best wishes

    Clare Doyle

    Genealogy Support

    Wednesday 23rd Apr 2014, 02:58PM

  • Jacqueline:

    Clare Doyle asked me to take a look at your query.

    I looked for a baptismal record on Roots Ireland www.rootsireland.ie  for John O'Hara father Bryan in Co. Galway from 1851-1861 but there was no record. I found the 1856 Griffiths record for a Bryan O'Hara. There were actually two records in Killimorbologue civil parish. One in Inga townland and the other in Magheramore townland.Since those two townlands border each other, it is likely the same person. I could not find Bryan in the Tithes listings and I could not locate a post-1863 civil death index record for him.

    I located an 1863 baptismal index record on Roots for a Catherine Concannon, father Martin. This record was in the Ballinlough RC records. Ballinlough is in Kiltullagh civil parish which is in western Co. Roscommon. Martin was not listed in the 1855 Griffiths probably because he was too young. If this is your Concannon family, I assume they emigrated to England soon after.

    Let me know if you have further questions.

    Roger McDonnell

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Wednesday 23rd Apr 2014, 05:11PM

  • Thank you Roger,

    how would I go about any further research for  Bryan and John O'Hara .  can you provide any guidance on who I can contact at the Inga and Magheramore Townlands ?   

    Catherine Concannon was  listed as 22 years old  when she married  John O'Hara on 9/71885 so that would make her born 1863 so this could be my Great Grandma. Catherine must not have been able to write as she signs her name with a cross on the marriage certificate.  I note from a cemetery record for Gorton Manchester 14/12/1914 for a John O'Hara who was the 15th person in the grave numbered 428 that there was a also an Aileen Concannon in the same grave. John lived Gorton. He was alive in  May 1913 when his son Patrick O'Hara, my grandad was married in Gorton so I think this grave is my Great Grandad John's. I'm not sure if Catherine had any other siblings or relatives.  Aileen  was buried the 19th person in the grave. However  there are about 25 people in one grave which isn't unusual  for that time.  Please can you advise how I can find out any more about the family listed in Kiltullagh. 

     

    Thank you so much for your help.  I really would like to reconnect with any family in Ireland and hopefully I am a step further. 

    Jacqueline O'Hara - Manchester 

    Jacqueline O'Hara  - Manchester

     

     

     

     

     

    Wednesday 23rd Apr 2014, 05:53PM

  • Jacqueline:

    Sorry for the delay getting back to you. Magheramore and Inga (also known as Nail) townlands are to the northeast of the town of Portumna. If you have Google Maps enter Magheramore Galway and you will see the location. Below is the link to the library in Portumna. You may want to e-mail them to see if there are any O'Hara families in the area. http://www.galway.ie/en/Services/Library/BranchLibraries/Portumna/

    For the Concannons, I would try the same approach. The closest library is in Castlerea. Here is the link.

    http://www.roscommoncoco.ie/en/Services/Library/Locations/

    Roger

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Monday 28th Apr 2014, 04:04PM

  • Hi Roger

    thank you very much, I am so greatful for your help, the baptism you said about Catherine Concannon, father Martin in Kiltullah 1863 led me to look at a posting I spotted on geneology forum where someone had posted in 2010 Martin Concannon from Kiltullagh. I emailed the person who is a Concannon and he is indeed my third cousin in Notts. he has a document he has written for years researching the Concannons. In it is Catherine, John O'Hara her husband,  her brothers and sisters and the names of Catherine and John's children ie my grandad Patrick O'Hara. They had letters from Catherine in Manchester (the addresses I had for them)   to family in America. They also had been looking for Catherine's husband John O'Hara's family being my family. Martin Catherine's dad and his wife moved to America with Catherine's other brothers and sisters leaving her and her older brother who were now married in England. I now have new cousins in Notts and Philadelphia.  I hope to visit Roscommon in the near future. I hope to trace some in Ireland . A happy ending with the Concannons.  Thank you

    I am no further with Bryan O'Hara and John O'Hara his son (Catherine's husband above) I will try that link you mentioned.  

    Regards

    Jacqueline O'Hara 

    Manchester

     

     

     

     

     

    Wednesday 30th Apr 2014, 02:35PM

  • Hi Roger

    thank you very much, I am so greatful for your help, the baptism you said about Catherine Concannon, father Martin in Kiltullah 1863 led me to look at a posting I spotted on geneology forum where someone had posted in 2010 Martin Concannon from Kiltullagh. I emailed the person who is a Concannon and he is indeed my third cousin in Notts. he has a document he has written for years researching the Concannons. In it is Catherine, John O'Hara her husband,  her brothers and sisters and the names of Catherine and John's children ie my grandad Patrick O'Hara. They had letters from Catherine in Manchester (the addresses I had for them)   to family in America. They also had been looking for Catherine's husband John O'Hara's family being my family. Martin Catherine's dad and his wife moved to America with Catherine's other brothers and sisters leaving her and her older brother who were now married in England. I now have new cousins in Notts and Philadelphia.  I hope to visit Roscommon in the near future. I hope to trace some in Ireland . A happy ending with the Concannons.  Thank you

    I am no further with Bryan O'Hara and John O'Hara his son (Catherine's husband above) I will try that link you mentioned.  

    Regards

    Jacqueline O'Hara 

    Manchester

     

     

     

     

     

    Wednesday 30th Apr 2014, 02:37PM

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