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Does anyone know if the full parents names are listed on a Civil Death cert from 1890?

I found a Charles Toohill in Ballybrooney, Mayo and think he could be my ggguncle but not sure. Can I write to Ballina and get a copy? Or does anyone know a less expensive way since I will probably be guessing a lot until I find the right answer and my 'guesses' may become expensive.

Thanks,

 

 

Monday 2nd Dec 2013, 05:42PM

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  • No Irish death certificates do not routinely record parents names. You might occasionally get a parents name in the case of a child where one of the parents may be the informant (and that?s usually noted) and also the occupation sometimes says something like ?son of X?.

    You can order a photocopy of a birth, death or marriage cert from GRO Roscommon for ?4 per certificate, if you have the full details. You obviously have the year and place. To complete that you need the quarter, volume and page number which you can get from the Irish civil indexes on familysearch. Put the place, year, quarter, volume & page number on the application form (anywhere). Don?t worry about leaving some boxes blank. You don?t need to fill them all in if you have the reference details. http://www.groireland.ie/ You have to post or fax the form to them but they will e-mail the copy certificate to you if you wish. Tick the relevant box on the form.

    Ahoghill Antrim

    Monday 2nd Dec 2013, 06:30PM
  • Hi Eileen

    The record is available at www.rootsireland.ie/ - a less expensive option.

    You'll need to purchase credit to view it and I can't guarantee what information is on there.

    He was aged 48.

    Col

     

    ColCaff, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Monday 2nd Dec 2013, 08:34PM
  • Col,

    I wouldn't totally agree with you that rootsireland is cheaper. The normal price for a birth, death or marriage transcript record on rootsireland is ?5, making that slightly more expensive than getting them from GRO Roscommon (though there is a special offer on till 4th December which means rootsireland are temporarily about ?3). However you don?t always get all the information that?s on the original certificate, and there can also occasionally be transcription errors.

     

     

    Elwyn

    Ahoghill Antrim

    Monday 2nd Dec 2013, 09:41PM
  • Hi again Eileen

    Given the above advice I decided to find out what information was on the record so that you can make a better-informed decision as to how best to proceed.

    I got the record from rootsireland and it has the following:

    Name: Charles Toohil            Date of death: 10 Apr 1809

    Age:    48                             Parish / District: CROSSMOLINA

    Address: Ballybrooney          County: Mayo

    Status: Married                    Denomination: Roman Catholic

    Occupation: Farmer             Sex: Male

    Graveyard Parish & County all blank

    INFORMANT

    Relationship: Son

    Name: James Toohil

    Address: Ballybrooney

    Notes: Influenza, 3 weeks uncertified, no medical attendant

    So no parents' names but a son's name.

    I think I've managed to attach it.

    If he was 48 in 1890 he was born 1842 or 41 but there was no birth record on rootsireland in any county for Charles Toohill - closest was Charles Toole 1840 Dublin & Charles Toole 1841 Wicklow

    Col

     

     

    ColCaff, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Monday 2nd Dec 2013, 10:24PM
  • Thank you everyone. This is very helpful.

    I don't know what website I found but they were charging 44 euros per record; so I was stressing out about the cost.

    This is very helpful. Thank you everyone.

    Tuesday 3rd Dec 2013, 04:15PM

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