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I will be in Ireland early part of June and visiting where my Grandmother was born in Scariff, Co Clare. Here name was Sarah McNamara (b 1893) and moved to USA.

Sarah's mother Hannah (Nora) Halloran (dressmaker) was born about 1860, died 1896. Hannah's father Thomas Halloran was a farmer. Sarah's father was Michael McNamara b. 1858, died 1920 and was a shop keeper.  Michael and Hannah were married 2/17/1881 in a Roman Catholic Church in Scariff. 

Michael McNamara's father, Michael McNamara was born about 1812 dies 3/24/1882 and was a labourer. His wife (Michael's mother) Margaret Porpey was born about 1818 and died 9/12/1903.

 

They all lived and died in Scariff.  Would love to find the farm, shops, church they were married in and more about the family. Can you help.

thanks,

Barbara

Tuesday 30th Apr 2013, 08:30PM

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  • Hi,

    I have the marriage a month earlier.  Not sure if that is my transcription error as some of the film is a little bad on the edges.

    DateGroomResidenceBrideResidence17JAN1881Michl McNamaraScariffHonoraHalloranScariff

     

    Witness 1Witness 2PriestThomasNolanHonoraMcMahonM J Kenny

     

    The name you give of "PORPEY" is likely a mis-read on handwriting as I don't find this surname in my reference books.   This name is likely "TORPEY" as I find a baptism for JOHN, son of JOHN NOLAN and MARGARET BURKE with sponsors Mich'l McNAMARA and Marg't McNAMARA or TORPY.  I can see how a fancy script "T" could be misread as a "P."

    There is a McNamara Pub & Hotel in town but not sure this is the same family.  There a so many McNAMARAs in the area, they top the numbers of families in both Scariff and Feakle church records.

    Do you know the name of the townlands where the farmers were? 

    Jane our Tulla Liaison may be able to contact the locals to find out if this Mac family is still in the area.

    JANE?  :-)

    I will check a few more things for you.

    You may want to check the Clare Library site for directories to look up the dress shop.  The farms won't likely show up in any directories.  You can also check the donated churhc registers for Thomas Halloran's marriage and Michael Mac & Margt. Torpey's marriage.

    Best wishes,

    James McNamara

    Feakle Clare Liaison

    Wednesday 1st May 2013, 05:00AM
  • Hi Barbara:

     

    i just saw your query and Jim's response this morning.  I will try to find someone in Scariff who may be able to help you.  Mike McNamara, the local publican that Jim referred to may be of help.  Are you staying locally in Scariff?  You can let me know by emailing me at tulla@irelandxo.com.  

     

    Thanks for your query and hopefully, we will be able to fine some information for you.  If you can find any more information, please let me know A it will help narrow down your search.

     

    Kind regards,

     

    Jane

    Tulla Clare, IrelandXO Volunteer

    Wednesday 1st May 2013, 06:22AM
  • Thank you James. You are right the spelling is a mistake on my part. It was Torpey....I will try the links and information that both you and Jane gave me. 

    Do you know if it mentions the church they were married in. I am curious to know if it the same church still in Scariff. 

    I also told Jane in am email that I may have a picture of the house my grandmother lived in and will send once I get it . 

    Best regards,

    Barbara

    Wednesday 1st May 2013, 11:21PM
  • Hi Barbara,

    My reference is from the marriage and baptism registers of the
    Scariff Roman Catholic Church, the same one standing there today.

    I have a lovely photo of it from my last trip and hopefully, will attach it.

    All the best,

    James McNamara

    Thursday 2nd May 2013, 05:14AM
  • Hi Barbara,

    I wasn't able to upload the photo as this site isn't very intuitive.  If you let me know your email address I will send it to you. 

     

    Best wishes,

    James McNamara

    Friday 3rd May 2013, 04:33AM
  • Thanks, my email is bdudley3@gmail.com 

    I will try to upload or email the picture of her house too.

    thanks, Barbara

    Friday 3rd May 2013, 10:44AM
  • Hi Barbara,

    Scariff Church photo has been sent to you.

    Monday 6th May 2013, 04:28AM
  • Hi Jane & James,

    I found a few interesting things in the 1901 & 1911 census. I found Michael McNamara (Sarah's father) in 1901, age 42 as a agricultural laborer not a shopkeeper as we had thought. His wife was listed as Ellie (Ellen). Sarah's mother Honora (or Hanora) Halloran died in 1896 and her father married Ellen about 1900 and was a dressmaker. Michael had 6 children with Honora and 2 with Ellen.

    i would like to go back further to find out more about Honora Halloran's father Thomas, we have as a farmer and her mother who we have no information on. 

    I also would like to find out more about Michael McNamara's parents, Michael McNamara (b. about 1810 d.1882) and his mother Margaret Torpey (b. about 1818, d.1903). I did not find Margaret in the 1901 census.

    I will try the Clare Library site and church registries as you mentioned. 

    I will email separately the photo I have from the 1970's when I was in Scariff. I believe the first picture is the house my Grandmother grew up. When we went there are stepsister was living there. It would have been Anna May McNamara or Elizabeth McNamara.

    on the 1901 census it states "Residents of a house 95 in (Scariff Village) Scariff Street (Scariff, Clare)". 

    On the 1911 census it states "Residents of a house 71 in Scariff Town (Scariff, Clare).

    Would this be there street address?

    thanks again for your help.

    Barbara

    Sunday 12th May 2013, 10:34AM
  • Hi Jane & James,

    I found a few interesting things in the 1901 & 1911 census. I found Michael McNamara (Sarah's father) in 1901, age 42 as a agricultural laborer not a shopkeeper as we had thought. His wife was listed as Ellie (Ellen). Sarah's mother Honora (or Hanora) Halloran died in 1896 and her father married Ellen about 1900 and was a dressmaker. Michael had 6 children with Honora and 2 with Ellen.

    i would like to go back further to find out more about Honora Halloran's father Thomas, we have as a farmer and her mother who we have no information on. 

    I also would like to find out more about Michael McNamara's parents, Michael McNamara (b. about 1810 d.1882) and his mother Margaret Torpey (b. about 1818, d.1903). I did not find Margaret in the 1901 census.

    I will try the Clare Library site and church registries as you mentioned. 

    I will email separately the photo I have from the 1970's when I was in Scariff. I believe the first picture is the house my Grandmother grew up. When we went there are stepsister was living there. It would have been Anna May McNamara or Elizabeth McNamara.

    on the 1901 census it states "Residents of a house 95 in (Scariff Village) Scariff Street (Scariff, Clare)". 

    On the 1911 census it states "Residents of a house 71 in Scariff Town (Scariff, Clare).

    Would this be there street address?

    thanks again for your help.

    Barbara

    Sunday 12th May 2013, 10:49AM
  • Do you know where the cematary is in Scariff where my ancestors would be buried?

    Barbara

    Friday 17th May 2013, 12:56AM
  • Barbara,

     

    There is a small cemetery next to Mountshannon Church.  There is likely one at Scariff church.  I've also seen one on the road between Scariff and Mountshannon, on the opposite side from the Lough Derg shore.

     

    James

    Tuesday 21st May 2013, 12:45AM
  • Hi Barbara:

     

    there is the Moynoe cemetery (old & new) in scariff. It is heading just outside scariff on the mount shannon road.  Where are you staying in scariff? I might know of a local to help you. Send me an email at tulla@irelandxo.com

     

    Jane

    Tulla Clare, IrelandXO Volunteer

    Friday 24th May 2013, 04:14PM

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