Hi,
I posted this message originally on the message board for Killtullagh/Killimordaly at the beginning of February with no response, so I'm reposting it on the general County Galway board in the hope that someone can help as I'm really not sure how to proceed.
I'm very pleased to have found this site and I hope you can help me track my great grandparents, Patrick and Ann Flanagan (n?e Mannion). I have no birth or marriage information for them but on all the UK censuses on which they appear, they state that they are both born in Co. Galway in about 1843.?
They appear for the first time in public records in the UK on the 1871 census living with their children in Manchester. Their first child we have a record for, and who we think may be their eldest child, is Bridget, born March 1864, Manchester, Lancashire, UK. They have eight children, ending with Maria Flanagan, born in 1881 in Manchester. Both Patrick and Ann die and are buried in Manchester, Patrick in 1900, Ann in 1902.
Through DNA testing on 23andme.com, I have found I have a genetic link with a relative of a Martin Broderick, who moves with his elder brother Michael to America in 1846 (Waltham, Massachusetts). It is thought that they emigrate from Kiltullagh in Galway. However, I now find out that there is Kiltullagh/Killimordaly, a Kiltullagh near Oranmore, and a Kiltullagh by Lough Kiltullagh near Glenmaddy in the parish of Boyounagh. On the Griffiths Valuations, I found Flanagans and Mannions living in Ballinastack near this third Kiltullagh, but I have no idea whether this is of any relevance. There may also be a link to Connolly and Duffy lines in County Galway, and possibly Flood.
Sorry if this is all a bit much but any information whatsoever, in particular any BMD records, would be gratefully received.
Thank you and best wishes,
Angela
Friday 15th Mar 2013, 03:11PM
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Do you know much about their emigration? The dates, the reason why they left, who they mighthave travelled with..etc.? Generally more information was given at the port of arrival rather than theport of departure. If you knew which city they arrived at (e.g. Liverpool, Ellis Island), this could be agood place to find more information, and perhaps even find out an exact place of origin. Shippingmanifests can be checked ?which may lead to more clues. The next thing you could do is find the counties and places in Ireland your family names are mostprevalent. Look at the website http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/surname/ and perhapssomething will match some other clue you may have found elsewhere? If nothing turnsup ? it is advisable to try different variations of the spellings of the names. If you have a possiblefirst name you could try the Irish Census 1901, 1911 at www.census.nationalarchives.ie/ or the landvaluation record called Griffiths Valuationhttp://askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml Also try these links sir they mite be usefull in your seach good luck. The National Archives of Irelandhttp://www.nationalarchives.ie/genealogy1/genealogy-records/introduction/ The National Library of Irelandhttp://www.nli.ie/en/family-history-introduction.aspx The National Archives UK ? genealogy search:http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/ The Public Records Office of Northern Irelandhttp://www.proni.gov.uk/index/family_history.htm
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Hello,
I see this is quite an old message so hoping Angela you are still keeping in touch. I have been researching my Manion ancestors for years. My gt Grandmother Bridget Manion was born in Kilbeacanty c. 1852 to parents Patrick Manion and Bridget Donohue. Patrick was a herdsman and some time later they moved to Crusheen in Clare, where Patrick worked as a herdsman on the Butler estate. I always knew that they came to Kilbeacanty from somewhere else and by a strange coincidence had a recent DNA match through my brother's DNA which strongly suggested the parish of Boyaunagh and nearby Clonberne and Kiltullagh where in the 19th century there were significant numbers of Manions/Mannions. I have had other DNA matches from this general area also. I notice that in Griffith's Valuation for Ballinastack Patrick Mannion at 9(b) was second next to David and Patrick Flanagan. There were two Anne Manion baptisms in 1845 - one to Patrick Manion and Sally Comer and one to Andrew Manion and Margaret Lyons. There is a record in Boyounagh for the marriage of a Michael Broderick to a Maria Grimly (possibly Gormley or Gormally) on 8/11/1857. John Flanagan was a sponsor. (I should explain that I am a subscriber to findmypast.ie).
I hope this information is still of help,
Deirdre Carroll, Dublin
Deirdre Carroll
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Deirdre (and hopefully Angela)
Have you joined the Mannion by DNA FB group and the East Galway Ancestry & DNA group ?
There are several Mannions in the groups both from the original home land of Menlough and also further north in Clonbern, and Glenamaddy
https://www.facebook.com/groups/259339384445890
https://www.facebook.com/groups/eastgalwaygenealogy
If not please do and also upload your raw DNA to the free site gedmatch.com and join the Ancestor Projects there for Mannion and East Galway
Happy New Year
Martin
MartinCurley, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
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I would sugguest that you look at the Parish Register for Kiltullagh in the Archdiosess of Clonfort in Galway looking for their baptisms
They begin with the date of June 25th 1844 so they may be of assistance
These reords are on line at the National Library of Ireland Unfortunately they are not cataloged as of this date
Kiltullagh, Clonfert - Catholic Parish Registers at the NLI
Fred Jaeger
jaeger_frederick@yahoo.com
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Thanks to you both for your replies.
I have looked at the Kiltullagh records in findmypast.ie - there are indeed lots of Manions in that general area.
I will certainly look at that FB group!
As an adendum, one of the points about my Manion forbears was their longevity - many living well into their nineties. I checked Manion death records for this area and was amazed but nor surprised to note some very long living people (findmypast.ie).
Deirdre
Deirdre Carroll