I am looking for information on my great grandparents, at least one of whom probably came from the Mt. Bellew area. Her name was Catherine (Kate) Burke (her tombstone dates in the U.S. are 1822 -1906.) She and her husband, John Carroll, first appear in U.S. records in the federal census of 1860 in Buffalo, NY. They moved to a farm outside of the city where they lived for the rest of their lives. In later records they give their year of immigration as 1856.
Thus far, no official U.S. records have surfaced regarding the details their immigration or place of origin. However, there were a series of four to six letters written to Kate (Catherine) ranging - as I recall - from the late 1870s to early 1880s. They were written to her by a brother, Michael Burke, who put his address at the top of each letter as "Eskerrow, Menlough." The letters were handed down in a family descended from a Patrick Burke (born in Ireland in 1832. He lived in the city of Buffalo, with his family his entire life.) The assumption is that Patrick Burke was a brother (or cousin) of Kate's, and that she passed the letters on to him as family news.
Copies of these letters were given to the parish priest in Moylough in 1967, who was interested in starting a small collection of historical materials for the local school students. The original letters and any copies in the U.S. have all disappeared, so if the copies given to the parish priest in Moylough still exist, they are the only copies.
Kate was married to a John Carroll (tombstone dates 1829-1908.) According to family tradition he came from the same area of Ireland as his wife, but there is not proof that this is accurate.
I know that there are Burkes still living in the area of Mt. Bellew, but whether they are related to the above Kate, Patrick and Michael I do not know.
I would be very interested if anyone in the area has any more information on the families of either of these two great grandparents. I twice visited Annie Carroll and her brother Michael in the area, and was given a princely welcome. However, no family connexion was ever established, and Annie was a great talker with an incredibly keen mind, but she was far more interested in talking about the burgeoning space exploration program than family history!!! She was an incredibly sharp thinker, and I still have a lively impression of her. Her brother Michael was quite a bit older, and a much quieter sort. He was a big man, and quietly proud - particularly of a prize-winning ram, whose photo he showed me. There were some Burkes present on these two occasions, but Annie held center stage and I never did get to talk to them.
John (Jack) Carroll
Wednesday 20th Jun 2012, 07:29PM
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Dear Mary,
Thank you so much for your response, and your efforts.
I should probably also write to the parish priest in Moyough, as in 1967 he was given copies of these letters I mentioned. Perhaps the present incumbent will have some idea of whether they were placed in a school historical display, or perhaps given to a local historical society. They did, as I recall mention evictions taking place at the time, and the priest remarked that some of the families mentioned still lived in the area.
Perhaps you can tell me the name of the current parish priest at Moylough, as I would prefer to address him by name.
In the meantime, thank you again.
Jack Carroll
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Hi JohnSorry for the late replyAlthough there are no Burkes in Eskerroe in 1901 there are Carrolls : http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Galway/Mount_Bellew/Eskerroe/1391675/I looked at the Griffith's valuation and these are the Burke's listed :Bourke Edward Pollnabrone Killoscobe GalwayBourke Elizabeth Menlough Commons Killoscobe Galway
Bourke Michael Menlough Eighter Killoscobe Galway Bourke Sybil Carrownacregg West Killoscobe Galway Bourke Thomas Fairhill Killoscobe Galway Bourke Thomas Moneen Killoscobe Galway
You probably have all of this already but just in caseIf Michael was living there in the 1880s it is also possible to trace him using the 'Cancellation books' in the Valuation office Basically these are updates on Griffith and used when property changed hands Michael's acquistion of the property and his passing it on will be recorded http://www.valoff.ie/research.htm They can be contacted here : http://www.valoff.ie/contact.htmlHopefully Mary will be in touch again soon with positive newsMeantime the info you requested re:parish priest :Parish Priest: Fr. Padraig O?Connor Contact No: 090-9679235Parish email address: mbmnewsletter@eircom.netHope to make contact with people from that area and see if they have any infoYou may also find the office of BDM in Galway useful in possibly locating records of Michael :Civil Registration Service, Community Services, 25 Newcastle Road, Galway,
Opening Hours: 10:00 to 4.30 Mon-Fri
Contact: 091 546277 Fax: 091 582028I have found them to be extremely diligent and helpful on the phone in getting birth and death recordsWhere does Annie Carroll live btw ?All the bestMartin CurleyKillascobe parish -
Martin,
Thank you so much for your information.
As for Annie, I had an email several years ago from a resident of the Mt. Bellew area who told me that Annie had died at an advanced age, and had been quite an admired figure even in her very old age. The home that she and her brother had lived in was, I was told, now occupied by a young family named Burke.
Thank you again.
Sincerely,
Jack Carroll -
Hello Jack,
Did you get an email from me about a monthago? We were curious to know if you have made any progress with your search? We think the burke family you are tracing are a different family - we have since started a search for Gerry's ancestors who moved from KIlkerrin to Eskerroe in 1910 approx. We were especially trying to trace his great grand-aunt Margaret Burke who may have died young or else emigrated without any trace.
Your enquiry has opened some new avenues for us, it is a co-incidence that there are other burkes (ancestors) who now live in Long Island N.Y.
Good luck with your search and let us know how you get on.
Regards
gerry & mary burke.
p.s. the Carroll residence was inherited by Annies niece, Ellen Baxter. She sold the house in 1997 and it has since been sold again. ~The current occupants are non related. They have lovingly restored the cottage and they have beautiful stone facing on the front of the building. Thought you would like to know it is being well tended.
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Gerry & Mary,
My apologies for not responding to you posting much sooner. In October I had a very complicated spine operation in a hospital in Barcelona, and then returned to Portugal to recover - which has been a tedious process. However, I am past the grumpy convalescent stage now, and back to the family tree.
No, in answer to you question, I did not receive your email that you referred to. Try jcarroll126@hotmail.co.uk.
This following bit of information may only be a coincidence re your Burkes and mine, but I thought I'd pass it on. My grt-grandmother, Catherine Burke had a brother (or cousin) Patrick Burke (b. abt. 1832, Ireland) who also immigrated to Erie Co., NY and lived in Buffalo all his life.
However, he had several sons, and one William T. Burke and his wife, Ellen Carmody, moved to Oyster Bay, Long Island, NY sometime in the early 20th century to live with their son, William G. Burke, who was a successful doctor there.
I have found in Griffith's 1855 both Carrolls and Burkes in Moylough, and this, at least circumstantially, supports the family traditon that my grt-grandparents were from the same area. I have re-scrutinized the American and N.Y. censuses, and these grt-grandparents give the same year for their immigration, but their marriage date is a bit in doubt - and that means they could have been married in Ireland or the U.S.
I was pleased to hear about Annie and Michael's old place. My two visits there are still bright and shining in my memory. Both of them were indominitable types - though Michael was reticent, whereas Annie was quite something else. I dropped in prepared for a good old shake-the-family-tree gabfest, and her interest was in discussing the developing space race (this was the late 60's) and was it or was it not going to produce something beneficial for man-in-the-street when all was said and done! Her conversation kept me on my toes that afternoon, she had fierce, no-nonsense mind, but her sense of humour was just as sharp. She certainly blew away any sentiment claptrap of what kind of folk you'd find living in a thatched roof cottage.
Again, sorry for the delay response, and belated best wishes for 2013.
Jack Carroll
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Since making my original posting on John Carroll (1829-1908) and Catherine Burke, I have learned John's parents' names. They were Edward Carroll (which is the name John gave his only son) and Bridget Mulrooney.
According Griffiths Valuation 1855 there was an Edward Carroll and a Patrick Carroll with holdings in Annaghmore West townland. Their landlord is Thomas Blake.
There are a John and a James Mulrooney with holding in Annaghmore East from Francis A. French.
It is tantalizing to think these may be that same families as on John's death certificate in the U.S.A.
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John
I found Edward's death cert from 1872
Present was Margaret Gordon who I know was Margaret Carroll married to John Gordon
Their daughter Ellen married Patrick Burke, the son of Michael Burke of Annaghmore
No doubt that Michael was connected to your Catherine and the family cemented the ties with this marriage
Their son Patrick then married Catherine Carroll of Eskerroe
These are Gerry's grandparents
I will try and see Gerry soon and get some confirmation on this
Martin
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