KENNEDY of UPPERCHURCH or KILCOMMON

Hi  An  Australian  Historian  of  Irish  descent  has  written  four  books  on  the  Kennedys  in  this  area.  His  name  is  Brian  Patrick  Kennedy.  He  is  coming  to  Rearcross  in  north  Tipp  in  July.  He  does  this  every  year  for  a  gathering  of  Kennedys.  Also  a  Priest from  the  area   Fr  Rody      Kennedy  wrote  a  book  entitled  From  Bun  Ciamalta  Vale  to  New  South  Wales.  He  grew  up  in  the  area  and  ministered  as  a  priest  in  N S W.  He  died  about  ten  years  ago.    I  will  go  through  the  books  and  see  does  it  mention  your  Kennedys.

Best  of  luck with  your  research.

God  bless  and  kindest  regards.

Christina,  Vol  Irelandxo.

 

Thanks Christina. I am also trying to find out if there is a connection with Morgan Kennedy's family with my great great great grandmother Winifred Kennedy, who married Michael Kelly and had at least these three sons - John (b abt 1828), Patrick (b abt 1830) and Hugh (b abt 1836). I think they were from Borrisoleigh - Templederry. Michael can be found in Griffiths at Gorteenavalla in 1853.

Patrick Kelly and his wife Eliza (nee Stapleton) stayed at Morgan Kennedy's hotel in Melbourne in c 1855 and the two families kept in touch through the generations.

Karina

Hi  Karina,  Morgan  Kennedy  is  on  shipping  list  in  Brian  Kennedys  book  The  Irish  Kennedys  also  His  birth  is  mentioned  in  Brian's  book  on  page  399  of  The  Mountainy  Kennedys.   I  dont  know  the  connection  with  Winifred Kennedy  but  will  try  and  find  out  for  you.

Kindest  regards  for  now.

Christina  Vol  Irelandxo.

Hi Karina,

I have James Kennedy of Knockmehill, Upperchurch,  born about 1795 whose first wife was  Eliza Maher from Kilskully near Newport, Nenagh. The marriage was in 1823.

They had Patrick Kennedy 1825, Morgan Kennedy 1826, Morgan went to Australia and married Sarah Moran first and then Mary Frances Cleary.

James Kennedy married Mary Bourke from Knochmehill after his first wife's death.  They had Winifred 1832, James 1835 and William 1841.

James Kennedy was my GGGrandfather.

I know the dates are different, but this depended on the source. I think we are talking about the same family. 

If this fits with your information I would love to hear from you.

Anne

 

Hello

Does anyone know anything about Morgan Kennedy's first wife, Sarah Moran? They married in 1854. I am researching a Sarah Moran who arrived in 1850 from Co Mayo, parents Patrick and Mary.

Thanks

Barbara

Hi Anne,

It does sound like we have the same people, though the dates are a bit off. Can you contact me directly karinajonasson@hotmail.com please?

Sorry I didn't see your reply sooner.

Karina

 

Hi Barbara,  I will try and do more research on this for you.  All the Irish Catholic Church records are now on line free at www.registersnli.ie.  

Regards.

Christina.

Hi Barbara,

The details I have found for Morgan's first wife, Sarah Moran, born 1823 to parents George Moran (b 1790) and Winifred Curboy/Corboy from Victorian death index information:

NameSarah KennedyBirth Yearabt 1823Age38Death PlaceVictoriaFather's NameMoran GeorgeMother's NameWinifred CurboyRegistration Year1861Registration PlaceVictoriaRegistration Number3690

Australian Marriage Index: NameSarah MoranMarriage PlaceVictoriaRegistration PlaceVictoriaRegistration Year1854Registration Number212Household MembersNameAgeSarah MoranMorgan Kennedy

 

Hope that helps. cheers,
Karina

I have Kennedy and Ryan and ties to Kilcommon and Upperchurch. Wondering if anyone else searching for Kennedy's and Ryan's in these places have a Gedmatch number? Mine is A143312.

 

Hi Karina, Anne, Barbara, Monamoe, The Kennedy,s of Upper Ormond being researched send out Newsletters,

They would put in Query for you re your Kennedy,s and Ryan,s.

If you would like to contact me  my email address mallow1@irelandxo.com.

Christina, Irelandxo. Volunteer.

Hi MonasMoe,

I just ran our numbers in GEDMatch and we have 2 shared segments.  I'm new to the DNA side, so not sure how to proceed.

Largest segment = 7.1 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 12.1cM (0.338 Pct)
Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 7.1

2 shared segments found for this comparison.

417217 SNPs used for this comparison.

52.405 Pct SNPs are full identical
 

I know I have Ryan's in my tree and I have ties to Upperchurch. Other names from that are are Stapleton and Dwyer. I'm intereested in finding family that stayed in Ireland.  

My number is AZ7075550 (*Sandy J) [Ancestry].

Sandy

Sandy - We are a "significant match"! Could you invite me to see your tree on Ancestry? I would be glad to send you my email address. Thank you, Maurene

Christina IrelandXO Volunteer - I am a member of the Irish Kennedy's of Tipperary & Linerick Heritage Group and have met with them in Tipperary. I do get the newsletter but I have never heard of them do a Query for anyone? What do you mena? Thank you. Maurene

 

Hi Sandy and MonasMoe,

I have also done the AncestryDNA, my kit number is XT8212699 (Karina Jonasson) and my maternal uncle KS3292364

I think this shows a closer relationship to MonasMoe, especially for my uncle (5 generations).

I have my tree on Ancestry, username schaubsp, tree Jonasson-Goding.

Cheers

Karina

Hi Maureen,

I'd be happy to invite your to view my tree if you send me your e-mail address.

Hi Karina,

I see that we have 'Stapleton' in common and many common first names, Mat, Thos, Denis, etc.

Slainte

 

Sandy

Karina,

Thank you! We are a "significant match" too! Exciting. Are you aware of the excellent material on the internet published by a man named McGrath/McGraw regarding the families of Upperchurch? Many of the families that were associated stayed connected over generations, Ryan's, Kennedy's, Delaney's, Dwyre's, etc. I also have Dwyer/Dwire and Kelly/Kelley. Do you have any Delaney's? My email: maurenekennedy@sbcglobal.net. 

http://mcgrathsearch.com/Upperchurch_Families.html

 

Karina,

Thank you! We are a "significant match" too! Exciting. Are you aware of the excellent material on the internet published by a man named McGrath/McGraw regarding the families of Upperchurch? Many of the families that were associated stayed connected over generations, Ryan's, Kennedy's, Delaney's, Dwyre's, etc. I also have Dwyer/Dwire and Kelly/Kelley. Do you have any Delaney's? My email: maurenekennedy@sbcglobal.net. 

http://mcgrathsearch.com/Upperchurch_Families.html

 

Karina,

Thank you! We are a "significant match" too! Exciting. Are you aware of the excellent material on the internet published by a man named McGrath/McGraw regarding the families of Upperchurch? Many of the families that were associated stayed connected over generations, Ryan's, Kennedy's, Delaney's, Dwyre's, etc. I also have Dwyer/Dwire and Kelly/Kelley. Do you have any Delaney's? My email: maurenekennedy@sbcglobal.net. 

http://mcgrathsearch.com/Upperchurch_Families.html

 

Karina,

Thank you! We are a "significant match" too! Exciting. Are you aware of the excellent material on the internet published by a man named McGrath/McGraw regarding the families of Upperchurch? Many of the families that were associated stayed connected over generations, Ryan's, Kennedy's, Delaney's, Dwyre's, etc. I also have Dwyer/Dwire and Kelly/Kelley. Do you have any Delaney's? My email: maurenekennedy@sbcglobal.net. 

http://mcgrathsearch.com/Upperchurch_Families.html

 

Hi, my name is James. My Kennedys would have come from hollyford Curraheen Reaffada Tipperary. Early 1900 I,m looking for a John Kennedy that married a Bridget Ryan from pipershill. Any info would be great as I think our ancestors came from the same place My ged match no is HL1588478

Karina and Sandy - I have another match on Ancestry with ties to Kilcommon and Upperchurch, who has Kennedy, Ryan, and Stapleton! James I know I have ties to Hollyford, Reaffada, Curreeney but we are not a match on Gedmatch.

Wow, Maurene, that McGraths site is so rich with Central NY info (copying link below for those who missed it in the old thread)!

You and I don't have a DNA match, but I believe, from another of my Matches, that my second great grandmother Bridget Burke (born abt. 1843) was from Upperchurch Parish. My DNA match has a 2nd great grandmother Mary Bourke (b. abt. 1817) of Cappanaleigh, Upperchurch Civil Parish; she married Patrick Stapleton and died in Gortkelly, Upperchurch. I have a baptismal record for a Bridget Burke in 1843, father Richard and mother Mary Murphy. I think they were in Ballyboy. I'm hoping this is my Bridget.

In case there are any Burke descendants reading, I'm trying to pin down and untangle her history. She married Patrick Quinn (born abt. 1844) and had 2 children in Baltimore MD-John (1865) and Mary Ann (1868). I have not found a marriage record, so don't know if it might have been in Ireland or Baltimore. I see there were Quinns in Upperchurch too and wonder of they knew each other there. So many mysteries.....

http://mcgrathsearch.com/Upperchurch_Families.html

Love Ireland Reaching Out! Happy St Patrick's day!

Betsy Imholz