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McCarthy John or James married Mary Ryan  children

Catherine McCarthy born 1830abt  Tipperary settled in Geelong Australia

Johanna ,  have hit a brick wall  as so many Mc Carthy's & Ryans .

Any help appreciated

Sunday 30th Jun 2013, 05:54AM

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  • Shilo,

    If you go to www.rootsireland.ie you will find two records for Catherine mc carthy, father John mc carthy, mother mary ryan.

    one record in the parish of Templemore 1834 - 1836

    one record in the parish of Kilcommon 1834 - 1836

    both parishes are in Tipperary (North Riding)

    I haven't had time to look for the other couple but as you get to know the site I'm sure you will find them too.

    regards,

    Anne Dennehy

    Sunday 30th Jun 2013, 09:11AM
  • Thank you Anne

    Saturday 27th Feb 2016, 06:27AM
  • Shilo,

    I looked again at rootsireland.  Here are the two records for Catherine.  I don't know which one pertains to your family.

    Name:Catherine Carthy Date of Birth:

    Date of Baptism:13-Mar-1836  Address:  Hollyford  Parish/District:  KILCOMMON         Gender:Female  CountyCo. Tipperary

    Denomination:Roman Catholic
    Father:John Carthy    Mother:Mary RyanOccupation:

    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1 :Lanty Ryan    Sponsor 2 /
    Informant 2: Mary Burke

    Notes:

    [PRIEST NR]

    © 2015 Copyright North Tipperary Genealogy Centre

     

     

    Name:Catherine Carthy  Date of Birth:

    Date of Baptism: 18-May-1836   Address: Not Recorded  Parish/District:TEMPLEMORE       Gender:Female          CountyCo. Tipperary

    Denomination:Roman Catholic
    Father:John Carthy              Mother :        Mary Ryan            Occupation: Not Recorded

    Sponsor 1 /
    Informant 1: Jerh Ormond       Sponsor 2 /
    Informant 2: Mary Coleman

    Notes:

    * Cath

     

    I cant seem to find any records for Johanna.  That isn't to say it doesn't exist.  It may have been missed in the transcribing.

    I ran a check with just the parents names to see how many children were born to this couple.  However I found that the combination names of John mccarthy and Mary Ryan was really common, and there are many different families of same parentage.   In Co Tipperary, I found 24 records for children born to couples of this name from 1830 to 1906.

    If however you manage to narrow down which part of Tipperary they canme from that would make it easier to pinpoint your family.  If the Catherine Mc Carthy from Hollyford, parish of Kilcommon is your ancestor, I found sibling records..

    Patrick baptised 1830

    Winnifred Baptised 1832

    Michael baptised 1834

    Catherine baptised 1836

    Ellen baptised 1837

    Judy baptised 1840  (Could this be Johanna)

    Do any of these names crop up in your family tree.  Most of that generation used the same naming patterns.  First boy called after paternal grandfather.  First gjirl called after paternal grandmother etc....

    Hope this helps,

    Anne Dennehy

    Saturday 27th Feb 2016, 11:56AM
  • Thank you Anne for your time and effort unfortunately we have been researching 35+ years still no results so I appreciate this information. we are stuck on Catherine McCarthy M James County both from Tipperary Thurles area we think ? however have a marriage certificate ?? 21/1/1860 for Catherine Carty m James Maher married RC Adelaide SAust. then James Joseph County child born 1861 Chilwell Geelong name change ?? back Maragaret County sister of James m Patrick Buckley Geelong  Margaret's parents Anastasia/Antice Manton Michael County James parents are same christian names but surnames changed to match above so according to mum who's 94 and very good memory said nana told her they came from Tipperary , to  Adelaide , Brighton, then Geelong and the name was County O Maher ?? According to James County's will they had land, houses, in Geelong and he was a proprietor of livery stables . We found a death certificate for Anastasia/Antice County widow 17/10/1868 aged 80 who was living with Mary Carty family in Stradavoher, Thurles parish also Thomas County died 28/9/1868 b 1838 age 30 bachelor unmarried also in same household. 

    Monday 29th Feb 2016, 07:12AM

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