Hi I am trying to figure out why Tipperary Research Center sent me info on ancestor marriage (se below) and it doesn'r list the parent's names on it.They told me when I was checking into their services that it would.So I emailed the church( on 2 different occasions) for futher info on this marriage and never heard back.I cannot afford overseas calls(I live in Indiana,USA).Any advice?Also it states bride's address as Knockanglass-is that a district? I have never heard of it?
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Tipperary Family History Research
The following Marriages were located within the records of the Archdiocese of Cashel and
as a result of research conducted by Tipperary Family History Research on your
On 5-10-1823, in the KILLENAULE Parish Register reference: K/AUL56
The Marriage of JOHN DEA and ELLEN MURPHY
Groom's Address: Bride's Address: KNOCKANGLASS
Groom's Occupation: Bride's Occupation:
Witnessed by: MEARA ANDREW MURPHY JOANNA
Priest:
Comments: Checked with Microfilm (Primary Source)
Email: research@tfhr.org Website: www.tfhr.org Telephone: 062
Thursday 2nd Apr 2015, 04:02PM
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Charise:
Knockanglass is a townland which is the smallest land division in Ireland. There is a Knockanglass townland in Killenaule civil parish so likely that is where she was from.
It is very likely that an 1823 marriage would not show the parents names.
Priests were not required to capture the parents names back in 1823..
Later this summer the National Library of Ireland plans to place all RC parish registers online for free searching. I would search the Killenaule parish register at that time.
Roger McDonnell
Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
Saturday 4th Apr 2015, 03:15PM -
Great info to know I am not familiar w/ the term "parish register"?
Can u specify what that means exactly.Does that mean all baptisms/narriages that are performed in catholic churches all over Ireland for all yrs since records have been recorded?What is the link to this Natl Library of Ireland-so that I can keep an eye on this free online searching?thanx for help U are awesome!
Saturday 4th Apr 2015, 03:57PM -
Charise:
All parishes whether RC, Church of Ireland, Presbyterian etc kept records of baptismal and marriage records conducted in the parish. These records are commonly known as a register. If you look at your 1823 marriage record above, you will see it mentions the Killenaule parish register.
Parish records start at different times based on when churches were founded and many early records for churches were lost. You will also find that parish registers will have gaps where records for a period of time were lost.
When the NLI implements this new service you will have to look at each parish individually e.g. Killenaule to search for ancestors. There will be no central summary of all records.
Here is the link to the NLI site. http://www.nli.ie/
Roger
Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
Saturday 4th Apr 2015, 04:20PM -
ok so if u know what church that u want to ask baptism/marrieage questions-u find out what parish that is in and go online and search the library records from there?
Saturday 4th Apr 2015, 05:13PM -
Charise:
The parish records will be sorted by Diocese and Killenaule will be in the Archdiocese of Cashel and Emly. You find the register for your parish and start searching. Some qualifiers: you are looking at the actual register and priest handwriting may be illegible in spots, some older records are in Latin so you will need to figure out the Latin translation of the first name and as I mentioned before there may be gaps,
Roger
Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
Saturday 4th Apr 2015, 06:34PM -
Roger-wow Latin? Are u any good at translating that?Pig Latin is the only Latin I learned growing up ha ha
Saturday 4th Apr 2015, 09:40PM