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I have been to St. Cronan's Church in Roscrea and did the "genie dance" when I found my 2nd Great grandparent's marriage on 30 May 1854 at the church office.  I tried to find the information on nli.ie, but I looked through the Roscrea & Kyle area for Killaloe and Moneygall, but couldn't find the listing.  Any one know the correct area I should be looking for?  Edward Treacy and Margaret Delahunty lived in Mountheaton, Co. Offaly at the time, which is about 3 miles 'down the road' from St. Cronan's in Roscrea.  I also found 2 baptisms for their first two children, but there are two other children born there that I wasn't able to find.  I appreciate any replies. Kathleen Tracy

Kathleen

Wednesday 25th Jan 2017, 07:33PM

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  • marriage is here - Roscrea parish, 2nd from the top on the right

    Shane Wilson, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Wednesday 25th Jan 2017, 09:28PM
  • Kathleen:

    Welcome to Ireland reaching Out!

    I will alert our parish liaison in Roscrea about your message.

    Roger McDonnell

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Wednesday 25th Jan 2017, 09:29PM
  • Hi Kathleen . . . Welcome to Roscrea 

    We will join in the search for further info.re your family . . . 

    Please put names and dates . . on the family .  . children. . of Edward & Margaret . . 

    Cheers . . . Eamonn

    Eamonn M. Horan, Volunteer Ireland Reaching Out ☘️

    Thursday 26th Jan 2017, 11:19AM
  • Kathleen . . . 

    Would you have any further 'fill in' to Edward + Margaret . . . birth dates  ?? birth places ??

    E.

      Eamonn M. Horan, Volunteer Ireland Reaching Out ☘️

      Thursday 26th Jan 2017, 12:16PM
    • Thanks so much Shanew147!  I appreciate you finding them on the nli site.  That confirms what I found at the church in the old records that were not easy to read.  Kathleen

      Kathleen

      Friday 27th Jan 2017, 04:32PM
    • Roger McDonnell,

       

      Thank you so much for your interest in my Treacy/Delahunty families.  It would be great to get more information.

      Kathleen Tracy

      Kathleen

      Friday 27th Jan 2017, 04:34PM
    • Eamonn M. Horan - Thank you for your interest.  Here is the list of the children of Edward (Ned) TREACY and Margaret DELAHUNTY.  I will give more information in other postings.  When you see the change of the surname spelling to TRACY, that is when the children were born in New York City and the spelling changed.  All of the children died in America.

      Kathleen

      Friday 27th Jan 2017, 04:45PM
    • Hi Kathleen . . 

      I see that you have a large family tree on Ancestry . . . so what I am posting here now . . 

      You most likely have already . . . 

      Were all the children born in Ireland . . or the U.S.   ???

      For Anne . . 1854 . . I found on Ancestry . . 

      Anne Treacy

       in the Ireland, Catholic Parish Registers, 1655-1915

       

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        Name:Anne TreacyBaptism Age:0Event Type:BaptismBirth Date:1854Baptism Date:11 Jul 1854Baptism Place:Roscrea, Offaly and Tipperary and Laois, IrelandParish Variants:Corbally, Kyle, Roscrea and Corbally, Roscrea and KyleDiocese:KillaloeFather:Ned TreacyMother:Margaret Delaherty

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        I failed on Michael J. 1855

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        John 1857 . . Inconclusive . . 

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        Did the family emigrate . . after the birth of their first child ???

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        A wee bit of a needle in a haystack !!

         

        Cheers . . Eamonn.

         

         

        Eamonn M. Horan, Volunteer Ireland Reaching Out ☘️

        Saturday 28th Jan 2017, 11:23AM
      • Hi Eamonn,

        Thank you for the information.  The first FOUR children (all 10 kids are listed above in another posting) were born/baptized in the Roscrea area.  The first was Anne Elizabeth and the second was Michael J.  Should I assume that Edward and Margaret named the first two after Edward's parents???  The next two born in Roscrea were John and then James.  Edward and Margaret and these four children came over to New York City, in 1860 (have not found them on any passenger list).

        The first child born in New York City was Edward F. in January 1861.  The next five children followed.  Four of the children died in New York City as young children; John (6 yrs) and James (4 yrs) in 1863 and then Rody in 1872 and Maggie in 1874.  Both were 2 years old.  I tell you this because my gut tells me that the father, Edward, left the family because of losing 4 kids.  It must have been a great difficulty to bury 4 children (he did pay for a grave) and have 6 kids still at home.  I think Margaret was a stronger person, and let's face it, with 6 kids to take care of, she probably didn't have any time to mourn.  Edward left the family sometime between 1875-1880 and wound up destitute and in an Almshouse in 1896 and died there in 1902.  How I wish I could know more of their story.  I will continue in another posting.

         

        Kathleen

        Sunday 29th Jan 2017, 09:34PM
      • Hi Eamonn,  It's me again...

        What I would really like to find would be Edward Treacy and Margaret Delahunty's parent's names and birth info.  From Edward's info that I have, he was born in Tipperary (no other info) probably in January 1821, but there could be a good 6 year leeway.  Different bits of info state different birth years, including 1820,1821,1824, and 1827!  Edward's Almshouse admission record states that his father was a farmer (no name for either parent) and that he had a sister and a brother.  I don't know if either sister or brother came to America, or stayed in Ireland.

        For Margaret Delahunty, she also 'used' different birth years, but in the 1870 Federal Census for New York City, she says that she was born in 1827, so I use that year for her birth year.  I don't know her parent's names, but I do know she had one sister that never married, Anne, who was born in 1835 (according to the 1880 Federal Census for NYC) and Anne lived with Margaret and the children.  There are 2 Delahunty's listed as witnesses for baptisms in Ireland... one is Michael and the other is Honora.  I don't know if Michael and Honora are siblings of Margaret, but I'm just putting it out there.  I also don't know if they came to America.  I do know that there is an Alice Delahunty also living with Margaret and the children in the 1880 Federal Census for NYC, and it says that she is the niece of Margaret, so I don't know who Alice's father would be.

        I will be looking through the records that I can find online and I thank you for any direction you can give me.

        If there is any information you need from the New York City tri-state area, please send me the info and I will see what I can find.  I hope you had a great weekend!  Kathleen

         

        Kathleen

        Sunday 29th Jan 2017, 10:15PM
      • Hi Kathleen . . 

        Some more finds . . . on Ancestry

        James Treacy

         in the Ireland, Catholic Parish Registers, 1655-1915

         

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          Name:James TreacyBaptism Age:0Event Type:BaptismBirth Date:1859Baptism Date:2 Aug 1859Baptism Place:Roscrea, Offaly and Tipperary and Laois, IrelandParish Variants:Corbally, Kyle, Roscrea and Corbally, Roscrea and KyleDiocese:KillaloeFather:Edward TreacyMother:Michael Delahunt  (incorrect spelling )

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          FOUND the following . . on . . Find my Past.ie (paid site )

          Ireland Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms Transcription

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          First name(s)JohnLast nameTreacyBirth year-Baptism year1857Baptism date? May 1857ParishRoscreaAlternative parish namesCorbally, Kyle, Roscrea and Corbally, Roscrea and KyleDioceseKillaloeCountyOffaly, Tipperary, LaoisCountryIrelandFather's first name(s)EdmundFather's last nameTreacyMother's first name(s)JohnMother's last nameCussenRepositoryNational Library of IrelandNational Library of Ireland linkhttp://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000634777#page/1/mode/1upRegisterBaptismRecord setIreland Roman Catholic Parish BaptismsCategoryLife Events (Birth, Marriage, Death)SubcategoryBirths & baptismsCollections fromIreland

           

          NOTICE the strange entry for Mothers name . . (  must have been a witness ? )

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          I got LUCKY with Michael . . . born 1859 . . Ancestry . . as follows

           

          James Treacy

           in the Ireland, Catholic Parish Registers, 1655-1915

           

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            Name:James TreacyBaptism Age:0Event Type:BaptismBirth Date:1859Baptism Date:2 Aug 1859Baptism Place:Roscrea, Offaly and Tipperary and Laois, IrelandParish Variants:Corbally, Kyle, Roscrea and Corbally, Roscrea and KyleDiocese:KillaloeFather:Edward TreacyMother:Michael Delahunt

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            When I search for Edward Treacy . . . b. approx. 1821 . .  . +/- 5 . . Tipperary

            I get . . in . . findmypast.ie. . ONE result only . . born " Thurles " Co.Tipperary .. 

            approx . 20 miles from Roscrea . . ( well witin radius ) . . . 

            the following . . . 

             

            Ireland Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms Transcription

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            First name(s)EdmundLast nameTreacyBirth year-Baptism year1820Baptism date26 Jul 1820ParishThurlesDioceseCashel and EmlyCountyTipperaryCountryIrelandFather's first name(s)WilliamFather's last nameTreacyMother's first name(s)MaryMother's last nameButlerRepositoryNational Library of IrelandNational Library of Ireland linkhttp://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632767#page/1/mode/1upRegisterBaptismRecord setIreland Roman Catholic Parish BaptismsCategoryLife Events (Birth, Marriage, Death)SubcategoryBirths & baptismsCollections fromIreland. . 

             

            Butler . . a common Thurles name . . . 

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            With Margaret . . I find on Ancestry . . in THURLES town . . the following

             

            Margaret Delahunty

             ( search 1825 +/- 5 ) . . Ancestry. . .  pure guesswork here . . 

             

            Margt Delahunty

             in the Ireland, Catholic Parish Registers, 1655-1915

             

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              Name:Margt DelahuntyBaptism Age:0Event Type:BaptismBirth Date:1830Baptism Date:19 Mar 1830Baptism Place:Roscrea, Offaly and Tipperary and Laois, IrelandParish Variants:Corbally, Kyle, Roscrea and Corbally, Roscrea and KyleDiocese:KillaloeFather:Jas DelahuntyMother:John Kinnan

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                http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0805

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                SO . . .Kathleen. . .  Hope these are of further assistance . . . 

                 

                Cheers . . Eamonn. . 

                 

                 

                  Eamonn M. Horan, Volunteer Ireland Reaching Out ☘️

                  Monday 30th Jan 2017, 09:13PM
                • The following line in the above . . was a mistake . . ignore

                  With Margaret . . I find on Ancestry . . in THURLES town . . the following

                  Eamonn M. Horan, Volunteer Ireland Reaching Out ☘️

                  Monday 30th Jan 2017, 09:18PM
                • Kathleen  . . 

                  I have just made inquiries . . all residents of Mount Heaton Co.Offaly . . 2 miles out from Roscrea  . . would have been historically have been buried and recorded     in Roscrea . . @ St.Cronan's.

                  You did mention . . Moneygall . . . they have their own Church . . (10 miles)

                  So also does Dunkerrin have its own Church (5 miles)

                   

                  Roscrea – Mount St. Joseph Monastery, It's Early History

                  Posted on September 2, 2007 by Offaly

                  One of Cromwell’s soldiers named Heaton, by letters patent, became possessor of Mount Heaton (now Mount St. Joseph), the subject of the present reference; on confiscation from The O’Carroll, a local chieftain. The fine estate, with its splendid modern mansion of Elizabethan architecture, changed heads repeatedly during the succeeding three centuries, from Heaton to Armstrong, then Taylor, then Head, and finally to Miss Walshe, a Catholic lady, from Kilkenny, who decided to sell the estate, and die as she lived in the south of France. Some time previous Count Moore of Morresfort, expressed a wish to establish a second Cistercian community in Ireland, and this estate presenting itself, the opportunity was availed of, in conjunction with the present venerable Lord Abbot of Melleray. It was ultimately decided to purchase Mount Heaton. This was effected in ’78, and the name changed to the more appropriate, Mount St. Joseph.

                  Eamonn M. Horan, Volunteer Ireland Reaching Out ☘️

                  Saturday 4th Feb 2017, 03:00PM

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