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I'm trying to find any BMD etc for George Mason & Catherine Moloney

I don't know if or when they were married

George was born in Ardfinnan could be 1835/1836. He died in Clonmel Workhouse in 1883.

I don't know any details about Catherine Moloney

Their children were

Edmund Mason b1862 Ardfinnan

  Catherine Mason b1864  Ardfinnan

Maria Mason b1866 Ardfinnan

Ellen Mason b1869 Ardfinnan   died in 1943 Manchester England ( Married name Maher)

Thomas Mason b1878  Kilronan Waterford

I would be grateful for any information-I've tried all the usual sites without any luck

Thank you

Tillybudd

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Sunday 29th Sep 2013, 09:03PM

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  • Hi Tilly,

    Not sure if it's relevant but www.rootsireland.ie has a record of the marriage of Jacob Mason to Catherine Moloney in 1857 in Clare.

    There was no marriage record for George & Catherine

    There are 2 records of George Mason births in Tipperary 1 in 1834 & 1 in 1835 & both are Adfinnan RC so that looks promising. You will need to purchase the record from rootsireland (40% off at the moment).

    There were 26 Catherine Moloneys born 1835 + - 5 years in Tipperary!

    Col Cafferky

     

     

     

     

    ColCaff, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Monday 30th Sep 2013, 01:50AM
  • Thank you Col  for your help

    Tillybudd

     

    Tuesday 1st Oct 2013, 07:47PM
  • Thank you very much, Tom for your very helpful information,which is very much appreciated.

    My brother in law has had a look at it- He is working on the Mason/Maher Family Tree.I visited Cahir a few years ago with my husband & late sister to see the War Memorial. My husband's uncles name is on it. We visited Clogheen & stayed in Clonmel.

    At the time we didn't know about the Ardfinnan Connectionl

    The 1901 census for Pound Lane that you attached ( now called Convent Rd) is for my husband's Maternal Grandparents.The first child, Patrick Mason was illegitimate ( name on War Memorial Cahir)

    I will probably get back to you if that is ok

    Thank you again

    Teresa

     

     

     

     

    Tuesday 4th Mar 2014, 09:57PM
  • Hello Tom

    The War Memorial is a credit to John O'Brien, It was during a month of August when we visited. We commented on how good it looked.It must have been very traumatic for him concerning those poor Allied Japanese prisoners of war.The war was futile.

    I've attached a couple of snaps of the War Memorial

    My husband's uncle Paddy was KIA on the Somme.His name is also on the War Memorial at Thieval as he has no known grave, sadly we haven't  got a photo of him.We do have his army records.

    Bye for now

    Teresa

     

     

     

    Saturday 8th Mar 2014, 02:59PM
  • Hello Tom

    Thank you very much Tom for your post on the Cahir Commemoration Ceremony. We thought it was very interesting & moving & especially as Mike & Bills uncle Patrick Mason's name is one of those on the memorial. We really liked the poem.

    Mike's brother Bill has written a poem about their uncle Patrick Mason. I tried to attach it, but apparently the size doesn't meet with requirements. I'll try & send it at a later date.

    Thanks again Tom for your trouble.It is much appreciated

     

    Best wishes

    Teresa & Mike

     

     

     

    Wednesday 24th Sep 2014, 02:35PM
  • Hi Tom

    This is the poem I mentioned about my husband's uncle, Patrick Mason from Pound Lane Clogheen. written by Mike's brother, Bill Logan.

    Hope all is well with you

     

     

     

     

     

                                PATRICK MASON

     

               ROYAL IRISH REGIMENT  - KIA - BAZENTINE

     

                               16th. JULY 1916

     

    That long winding trail from Ardfinnan,

    To the Bazentine Ridge on the Somme,

    Took his lifetime for Patrick to travel

    And to  meet with what was to come.

    He would never return from that horror,

    Sealed within it’s ground to this day

    Enclosed therein, so silent he lies

    Somehow,  somewhere, still wrapped in it’s clay.

    His name etched in stone there at Thiepval

    “Known only to God” so they say

    Little reward for the sacrifice made

    Upon that long gone and brief Summer’s day.

     

    And the memory of this  long  lost Truth

    Brings  the  spectre of a Nation’s lost Youth.

     

    Bill Logan

    Sunday 9th Nov 2014, 08:44PM
  • Dear Tom,

    May I now introduce myself.  My name is Bill Logan and it is my Sister in Law Teresa and my younger brother Michael who first really compelled me to think and feel so much for our Uncle Paddy (Patrick Mason).

    He was born in 1891 in the workhouse at Clogheen,  though his Mother,  Ellen Mason, (my maternal Grandmother ) was born in Ardfinnan,  in the townland of Moancrea.

    That  then is the emotional background that led to my writing the sonnet we now refer to.

    I do owe Teresa a debt of gratitude for posting upon this lovely site and thus enabling you to read my poem and to make such positive comments thereupon .  I would be more than happy for you to undertake any of the action you mention in your posting for it is important to me that the true essence of Patrick Mason should rest in Cahir/Ardfinnan and I am now hopeful that it will.

    I send to you my sincere thanks for your kind words and interest.

    Bill  (Cathaldus)

     

    Wednesday 12th Nov 2014, 02:48PM
  • Dear Tom,

    Thank you so much for your recent post.  I know when I first sent what little information I had over to the RootsChat forum regarding our maternal Grandmother,  Ellen Mason (b.1869 d. 1943),  I wrote the townland name as it is shown upon her birth certificate, i.e. Mooncrea)  It was  pointed out very quickly that it should be Moancrea,  simply due to the pronunciation. Your comment about the "accent" then makes that so logical!  So I thank you for that piece of elucidation!  Even at that time it was pointed out that the "red bog" played a part in the sounding of the name!

    I have downloaded the book which you attached and will have many hours interesting reading and digesting the information contained therein.  Thank you for that.

    Patrick Mason's centenary will not be until 1916,  but (a) because I shall be 79years old this coming January!) and (b) because 2014 is the main anniversary in most people's minds,  I felt that it was very important to put something on paper for myself,  my brother Michael and his wife Teresa,  that would fix the memory of the "uncle which we never knew",  firmly in the area from which he sprang and now (hopefully) with your help that will be the case.

    Returning now the the pursuit of the Mason family in Ballybacon,  Ardfinnan.  From Rootsireland we have been able to find that George Mason's (b 1835), father was one Edmund Mson and that he was married to Catherine Carrigan in 1830 (Ardfinnan).  Unfortunately no parental information is given on the record.  The situation is somewhat complicated that there are TWO Edmund Masons!  The first Edmund was married in Ardfinnan in 1829 to one Catherine Kennedy and OUR Edmund Mason married the following year to Catherine Carrigan.  It is clearly shown on George Mason's birth detail that his parents are the latter pairing.  Until we can nominate OUR Edmund's dad we are up the creek wthout a proverbial.  Still onwards and upwards!        Bill

     

    Friday 14th Nov 2014, 05:32PM
  • Many thanks Tom for the information about Moancrea etc & also for the informative book you kindly sent to us, which we will enjoy reading

     

    Teresa & Mike

    Friday 14th Nov 2014, 10:24PM
  • Thanx very much for that Tom

    Teresa & Mike

     

    Saturday 15th Nov 2014, 11:40PM
  • Hi Tom,

    Sorry I have not responded more fully recently.but I have beeen stricken by the dreaded "lurgi" and have been incapacitated for  two weeks or so.   Still the Abs and Steroids now seem to be kickin'in and I am feeling somewhat better.  So much so that I am hopeful this week of visiting Michael and Teresa, (for lunch!) and we can bring ourselves up to date. I want to go back on Rootsireland as I am anxious to separate out the families of Edmund Mason (married to Catherine Carrrigan),in 1830 and the other Edmund Mason (married to Catherine Kennedy) in 1829.  So there is plenty to occcupy these rheumy old eyes!!  My thoughts at the approaching Christmas lead me back to Ardfinnan and to Uncle Paddy and to the poor state of the world at this present time.   The quotation that says it all springs readily to mind -

    "Dulce et Decorum est pro patria mori"

    Bill

     

    Tuesday 25th Nov 2014, 02:38PM
  • Hi Tom,

    Sorry I have not responded more fully recently.but I have beeen stricken by the dreaded "lurgi" and have been incapacitated for  two weeks or so.   Still the Abs and Steroids now seem to be kickin'in and I am feeling somewhat better.  So much so that I am hopeful this week of visiting Michael and Teresa, (for lunch!) and we can bring ourselves up to date. I want to go back on Rootsireland as I am anxious to separate out the families of Edmund Mason (married to Catherine Carrrigan),in 1830 and the other Edmund Mason (married to Catherine Kennedy) in 1829.  So there is plenty to occcupy these rheumy old eyes!!  My thoughts at the approaching Christmas lead me back to Ardfinnan and to Uncle Paddy and to the poor state of the world at this present time.   The quotation that says it all springs readily to mind -

    "Dulce et Decorum est pro patria mori"

    Bill

     

    Tuesday 25th Nov 2014, 02:38PM
  • Hi Tom,

    Sorry I have not responded more fully recently.but I have beeen stricken by the dreaded "lurgi" and have been incapacitated for  two weeks or so.   Still the Abs and Steroids now seem to be kickin'in and I am feeling somewhat better.  So much so that I am hopeful this week of visiting Michael and Teresa, (for lunch!) and we can bring ourselves up to date. I want to go back on Rootsireland as I am anxious to separate out the families of Edmund Mason (married to Catherine Carrrigan),in 1830 and the other Edmund Mason (married to Catherine Kennedy) in 1829.  So there is plenty to occcupy these rheumy old eyes!!  My thoughts at the approaching Christmas lead me back to Ardfinnan and to Uncle Paddy and to the poor state of the world at this present time.   The quotation that says it all springs readily to mind -

    "Dulce et Decorum est pro patria mori"

    Bill

     

    Tuesday 25th Nov 2014, 02:39PM
  • Dear All,

    Sorry for multiple copies!    Mustn't be as well as I thought!!!!!

     

    Bill

    Tuesday 25th Nov 2014, 02:49PM
  • Hi Tom,
    Thank you for our recent msg. Our grannie was Ellen Mason born 1869 in Moancrea, father George Mason Mother, Catherine Mullowney. The other Ellen Mason, born 1867, was the daughter of Edmond Mason (born circa 1840) and Catherine Connors (mistranscribed as Commins or Cummins)
    They were married in 1864 in Ardfinnan and lived in Ballyvera.
    Thank you also for the William Butler picture, a very powerful name in the history of our beloved Ireland!
    Had lunch today with Michael and Teresa and you were mentioned in despatches (in the most positive of terms!!)
    Keep well!
    Bill

    Wednesday 26th Nov 2014, 05:03PM
  • Hi Tom,
    Tks. for your rcent msg. Your attachments are very interesting and will confirm the informaation that I have, so thank you for that. I do have the list of children to Edmund Mason and Catherine Connors, for I am trying to relate the family of Edmund Mason husband of Catherine Carrigan to Thomas Mason, the father of Edmund Mason (husband of Catherine Connors). In that waay I could "unify" the Ballybacon connexion. No result so far!!
    Thank you for your comment regarding the three Georges in Edmund Mason's family, that is something I will have to follow up, but you have given me the lead!
    You asked the other day about the marriage of my Grannies sister Catherine who was married in 1885, no further information at this time, but I will be following this up.
    Bill

    Thursday 27th Nov 2014, 08:47PM
  • Hi Tom,
    Tks. for your rcent msg. Your attachments are very interesting and will confirm the informaation that I have, so thank you for that. I do have the list of children to Edmund Mason and Catherine Connors, for I am trying to relate the family of Edmund Mason husband of Catherine Carrigan to Thomas Mason, the father of Edmund Mason (husband of Catherine Connors). In that waay I could "unify" the Ballybacon connexion. No result so far!!
    Thank you for your comment regarding the three Georges in Edmund Mason's family, that is something I will have to follow up, but you have given me the lead!
    You asked the other day about the marriage of my Grannies sister Catherine who was married in 1885, no further information at this time, but I will be following this up.
    Bill

    Thursday 27th Nov 2014, 08:47PM
  • Hi Tom,
    Once again thank you for your recent msg. It is a truism that the more you know then the less you know and that is definitely the case in our Mason family!
    When I first started to seek answers in the Mason connexion in Ardfinnan, I set my base line as being the 1827 Tithe Register. This gave a list of FIVE Masons - viz- George (Gormanstown), James (Ballyvera), Thomas (Ballyvera), John (Raheen) and Edmund (Raheen). All dwelt in Ballybacon. Perhaps this is the reason why an Edmund Mason does not occur in Ardfinnan until 1825?
    Let me place on record that Michael, Teresa and myself appreciate fully your input to our endeavours and sincerely thank you for that.
    Bill

    Friday 28th Nov 2014, 05:25PM
  • Hi Tilly
    There is an 1835 baptism record of George Mason in Tipperary from Ardfinnan R C Parish on ww.rootsireland.ie/
    Birth 4 Dec 1835; bap 1 Jan 1836
    Parents Edmund Mason & Catherine Corrigan
    There are also George Mason baptisms in 1832 & 1834 both Ardfinnan!
    Col

    ColCaff, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Friday 5th Dec 2014, 03:14AM
  • Thanks very much Col for that. I'll check it out.

    Teresa

     

    Friday 5th Dec 2014, 08:43PM
  • Hi Tom,
    Once again thank you for your valued input. You raise a very interesting point in referring to the Cahir connexion! Therein may well lie the key to the outstanding problem.
    I have downloaded the photograph of the Gormanstown lady for future reference. It may well be that she came out of the George Mason shown in the 1827 Tithe List.
    The news item in the Irish Times should hopefully make life a little easier (and perhaps cheaper!!)
    I note that Teresa has replied to Col and I too thank him for his input. We Irish people are just sooo friendly!!!

    Bill

    Saturday 6th Dec 2014, 06:07PM
  • Thank you Tom . You are very knowledgeable.

    Regards    Teresa & Mike

     

    Saturday 6th Dec 2014, 11:54PM
  • Hi Tom,
    Sorry I have not been in touch for a little while but I have been in hospital for a couple of days with Pneumonia
    which has obviously been incubating over the past month or so, in spite of bucket loads of ABs and steroids!
    Hopefully now I should start to see some improvement and a return to my full motivated self!!
    Will be in touch!

    Bill

    Tuesday 9th Dec 2014, 03:07PM
  • Hi Tom,

    Just to clarify two outstanding points relative to our "conversation" -

    1.  The death notice for Catherine Moloney may well be the widow of George Mason.  However would she not be known as Catherine Moloney Mason?

    2.   The quotation which I appended to one of my epistles is from the War Poem by Wilfrid Owen.

    in the final stanza he destroys the myth that dying for your country is a sweet and noble thing.

    The first morning of the Somme offensive put paid to that illusion,  when thousands of men were simply numbers treated as "cannon fodder"

     

    Bill

    Wednesday 10th Dec 2014, 09:14PM
  • Dear Tom,

    Your messages are always interesting and challenging at the same time  and leave one with a lot of constructive thinking to do.  That of course is how it should be.  As far as George Mason's good lady is concerned,  I beg leave to go and lie down in a darkened room and cogitate!!!!

    Bill

    Friday 12th Dec 2014, 04:11PM
  • Hi Tom,
    Just as an aside and not wanting to appear "too cheeky", may I ask you - "Are the records for Clogheen Workhouse (including the Infirmary) available on line?" I have located a web page but no link seems available. If you can help that would be so kind and I can then pursue the real George Mason and the real Catherine Mullowney, from those records. At present I do view the death details of both with a very jaundiced eye!!
    Finally I send to you and your Family my very best wishes for the coming Christmas and New Year. May it be joyful and peaceful.

    Bill

    Thursday 18th Dec 2014, 04:22PM
  • Hi Tom,

    Once again a thoughtful and informative response to my query. I am now, of course, must better informed vis a vis the Clogheen Workhouse.
    Would I be right therefore to assume, say a pregnant lady or an elderly sick person, being taken in to the Workhouse, for medical reasons, would in effect become an "inmate" and would be logged in as such? E.G., my maternal grannie, Ellen Mason, had her first born son (Patrick Mason), in the Clogheen Workhouse.

    Bill

    Tuesday 23rd Dec 2014, 07:47PM
  • Hello Tom

    Re your replies to Bill

    Thank you for your interesting & informative but very sad posting re the Workhouse/Hospital

    I have read the online book, "Famine in the Valley" by Ed O'Riordan some time ago.

    We have his booklet  " Historical Guide To Clogheen"  & also  " Lonely Little God's Acre"

    His wife Karol de Falco has helped us with Mike's Maher /Mason Family history in the past.

    Do you know them? Do you know John Tuohy? He is the organist at St Mary's Rc church Clogheen where Mike & Bills Maher relatives were all Baptised. When Mike & me & my late sister were in Clogheen a few years ago John Tuohy gave us the relevant Baptism info.He was unable to give us the Marriage info as Fr Butler had the book.

    Mike managed to get some info from the Westland Rd Offices.

    I can't remember if I told you that at one time my mum lived with her parents & siblings at 8 Sarsfield St Clonmel.It is now the Chamber of Commerce. It used to be the tourist office as well.

    My mum's dad  a teacher took his own life there in 1935

    Mike & I wondered where the Maher family from Clogheen would have gone to school,including his mum & his uncle Patrick.They lived in Pound Lane.

    Have a lovely Christmas you & Joan

    Teresa

     

     

     

     

    Wednesday 24th Dec 2014, 03:49PM
  • Hello Tom

    Thanx for the info re the Masons & Clogheen school etc-We'll look them up.

    Bill knows more about the Masons than me.If we'd realised at the time we could have visited Ardfinnan when we were in Clonmel/Clogheen

    Mike & Bills Maher family lived at Pound Lane Clogheen now named Convent Rd

    We have a photo of Mike standing in  Convent Rd. which is off Main St, nearly opposite the RC church where all the Mahers were baptised

    My mum's family from Sarsfield street  Clonmel were called Somers, originally from Roscommon/Galway.

    There is a video of John Tuohy on the internet-A family visited him for help re their Family Tree.

    He could talk the hind legs off a donkey..He is a very nice man

    Bye for now

    Teresa & Mike

     

     

     

    Thursday 8th Jan 2015, 04:42PM
  • Hi Tom,
    Hope that the New Year is going along nicely for you and for your family. For myself, other that still feeling somewhat unwell, I cannot really complain. My family, are doing pretty well, so I am a lucky fellow!
    Your comment regarding the Masons living at present in Ballybacon is interesting. The main townland they were living in was Ballyvera and I do have a contact with Eddie Mason. I actually sent him a Christmas Card and even received one back from him. Initially he did furnish me
    with some little information about a memorial in Ballybacon Churchyard relevant to one Thomas Mason, died 1842. The memorial was erected by his son Edmund Mason.
    Rather than go along with a major diatribe at this time which may well bore the socks of you, sufficient for me to say is that the name Edmund Mason runs as a thread through this part of the family. It will be of no surprise to you
    that Eddie Mason is actually properly addressed as Edmund Mason. A further connexion is that "Eddie" Mason's GGF was one Edmund Mason who was married to Catherine Connors and they too lived in Ballyvera. My aim, as far as my maternal Mason family is concerned is simply to connect my GGF Edmund Mason (b circa 1810) to the paternal family of
    "Eddies" GGF. Simple innit??? Once again Tom, thank you for your support and for your listening ear.

    Bill

    Monday 12th Jan 2015, 04:21PM
  • Hi Tom,

    Thank you so much for the web page of FOTG.  I immediately went on line and was more than interested in the layout etc.   It mentioned that there was a "contact" button at the botttom of the page - but - not  on my page!  So I have sent a brief email to plugin@iol.ie,  for the attention of researcher "J" gving some basic info. regarding our Uncle Patrick and asking how I might provide the fullest information which we have.  I must admit that although Patrick name is shewn upon the memorial itself,  he is not listed upon the web page and I suppose it is that omission which I want to put right.

    I am very happy also with your efforts on behalf of my sonnet and I do sincerely appreciate all that you do on our behalf.

    Bill

     

     

    Friday 30th Jan 2015, 04:08PM
  • Many thanks Tom for your recent mesage.  I will give that web page another go.  The email I sent to the "plug in" address was returned as "not deliverable",  so like you I will explore the other addresses and hopefully gain some info. 

    I will report back - in "due course"!!!!

     

    Bill 

    Sunday 1st Feb 2015, 04:33PM
  • Hi Tom,

    Thanks for your recent messaage.   Because of the problems with sending emails to FOTG I decided to write directly to them at Davis Stret,  Tipperrary Town and the letter was posted last night.  I did give an appreciable amount of information on Patrick Mason and I am sure the entry for him will now be upgraded.

    Once again our thanks are sent speeding over to Cahir.  I will of course keep all ""in the loop" when I have some reply from FOTG.

    Bill

    Monday 2nd Feb 2015, 02:31PM
  • Hello Tom

    Thanx for your latest posts including todays.It's always nice to read your interesting informative posts.

    I've been leaving the George Mason family history research to Bill

    I'm sure he'll be delighted that his poem has been publishedl

    Michael is very inerested in anything to do with the Cahir Memorial & his uncle Patrick Mason.

    Thank you for the lovely poem, The Fairy Tree.

    I've been told by a family member that my maternal Grandmother. Mary Somers nee McArdle once sang on stage with John McCormack.

    The Somers family were very musical

    .My mum had her voice trained by Sir Hamilton Harty from the BBC

    Yes we are all looking forward to Summer.It's been very cold & windy here

    Bye for now

    Teresa & Mike

     

     

    Thursday 5th Mar 2015, 10:11PM
  • Dear Tom,

    What a pleasant and rewarding note your latest posting is!  I am so very pleased and even gobsmacked

    that my Sonnet has been publihed and is now firmly rooted in Ardfinnan where it will now always be

    My sincere thanks to you for your effort on behalf of myself and my brother Michael and his good lady Teresa.

    Coming swiftly back to Earth -  no response so far from FOTG.  I will now go onto the other site web page and see how we go from there.

    Bill

     

    Friday 6th Mar 2015, 03:02PM
  • Hi Tom,

    Talking about the famous Count John reminds me quickly of the Irish Concerts which were held by St. Wilfrid's Primary School at the Zion Institute in Hulme,  Mancheter,  probably about 1946/47.  I guess that for I moved schools in September 1947.  Two songs which have always stuck in  my memory which I link to John McCormack are "Where 'ere you walk (cool gales shall fan the glade") and "My love's an Arbutus, (by the borders of Leine,  so slender and shapely in her girdle of green").  It is amazing how those lyrics are firmly planted in my memory bank and McCormacks light tenor voice so gentle and true is all that an Irish tenor should be.

    For myself I sing like an out of tune banshee,  so I am better keeping "stum" for the benefit of the audience!

     

    Bill

    Friday 6th Mar 2015, 08:18PM
  • Hi Tom,

    Thank you so much for your recent posting.  I am indeed very proud to see my sonnet printed in the County of my Uncle Patrick's birth. He is now,  to my mind,  returned from the unknown of Bazentine Ridge to the place he would have known,  so well.  I feel content with that and I know also that Michael and Teresa will feel the same way. Considering that his centenary will be next year,  his long gone memory is now alive again and so too are those of all his many comrades upon died so needlessly upon "that brief Summers Day"

    The Butler poems are lovely,  I think the second one on Killardrigh is just so very moving and powerful.

    I do thank you for puttting them on the site.

    Regarding the newspaper Tom.  Now that I do have the "image" of the printing,  I feel that that will suffice within my computer's memory.  I again tender my most sincere thanks for all that you have done for me in this regard and more generally in our searching since this "thread" was raised by Terasa.

    Bill

     

     

    Wednesday 25th Mar 2015, 08:44PM
  • Hello Tom 

    It was nice that you were able to visit the War Memorial in Cahir on Thursday

    Thank you very much for your time & effort re the publication of Bill's poem. We really appreciate it It was great to see the poem in print.

    We enjoyed William Butler's Poetry.It was very moving

    Thanx again Tom.

     Best Wishes

    Teresa & Mike

     

     

    Wednesday 25th Mar 2015, 11:24PM
  • Hi Tom,

    Many thanks for your message and the name of contacts in Cahir.  I have been thinking of how to progress my search regarding my Uncle Paddy and felt that checking the Clogheen Workhouse records as you have suggested (at Thurles),  may be a beginning.  So I will try to see if they are on line,  if not then I will write directly.  Concerning Paddy's war experiences,  I do have his army paperwork,  from his joining the RIR reserve in 1911 to his being KIA in the High Wood on Bazentine Ridge in July 1916. Additionally I have the RIR War Diary details for the fateful period.  So I am effectively "au fait" with his military life. This information came originally from the Ancestry site,  some eight or nine years ago. It was the centenary of the start of the Great War that truly focussed my mind upon "the Uncle that I never knew".  I certainly know a  lot more about him now!  However I would like to try to find out a little more regarding his paternity if only to understand what my Grannie went through before her eventual marriage in 1894 in Clogheen.

    Once aagain dear Tom,  my sincere thanks for your time and effort.  I will of course keep you in the loop ( as we modern types say!!)

    Bill

     

     

     

    Friday 22nd May 2015, 02:22PM
  • Hi Tom,

    Initially let me please apologise for the "hiatus" in our discssions.  I have no real excuse,  other that I have changed my ISP

    (to BT) and this has caused me many problems.  Sufficient to say that I hope things will now start to improve.

    May I start by saying that I have had some correspondence with Eddie Mason of Ballyvera and I feel that he is starting to become moticated i finding his own family roots!

    I have beeen spending time looking at the NLI registers and have come across a married couple in 1811 Births in Ardfinnan

    and they are George Mason and Ellen Prendergast.  They had a son,  G (either George or Gerald) b. 11th July, 18111

    aand also a daughter Ellen,b. 29th. July,  1813.   I have checked back to 1809 Marriage,  but cannot seee the marriage,  either in Ardfinnan,  Ballylooby,  Cahir or Clogheeen.

    There is an interesting "naming pattern" here. It could be that the George Mason,  married to Ellen Prendergast,  could well be the parents of our Edmund Mason and that is a line I will follow to some kind of resolution.

    I do hope thhat you and yours are keeeping well.

     

    Bill 

    Monday 16th Nov 2015, 07:58PM
  • Dear Tom,

    Many tthanks for your reply,  your humour shines through,  as always.  Whether I will eventually find the marriage of George Mason and  Ellen Prendergast is of course moot.  Simply scribbling out a proposed family tree does makes interesting reading.

    We know from the NLI records that they had two childrren (on record),  viz.  George (or Gerald) and Ellen.  The first b. in 1811 and the second in 1813.  If we simply put Edmund in the middle (i.e. 1812),  we can then produce the family of our Edmund, where his first child was George (two of whom died),  to be replaced by our George Mason who married Catherine Moloney in 1862 and their daughter Ellen was my maternal Grandmother (b. 1869).

    It is interesting that our Edmund's "naming pattern" includes George (Dad) and Ellen (mother) in his children's names.  I may just be simply "wool gathering",  but I feel  it may well devlope further.  

    My best regards and thanks for your genuine interest.

    Bill

     

    Wednesday 18th Nov 2015, 07:34PM
  • Hi Tiillybud,  In case you still need any information regarding Catherine Moloney from Ardfinnan, she is one of my ancestors, I am from Ardfinnan, a Moloney of course.  I know the Ardfinnan Mason family extremely well too.  I am in Ardfinnan at least once anmonth, so if you need some genealogy or information, please let me know. My uncle Richard is currently the  eldest Moloney, and the eldest person in the village, and he is the fointain of knowledge of all things Ardfinnan, especially genealogy !.  let me know if we can help in anyway.

     

    Sunday 12th Nov 2017, 09:53PM
  • Hello CMo

    Thank you for your post re Catherine Moloney & the Mason family.

     Catherine Moloney & Edward Mason are my husband's & his brother's Great Grandparents.

    His brother is a member on this site, user name Cathaldus.

    He is also working on the Moloney/Mason family connection.

    I will ask him to contact you as he is more knowledgeable than me

    We visited Clonmel & Clogheen a few years ago. At the time we didn't know about the Ardfinnan connection.

    Thank you again for your post.

    Tillybudd

    Monday 13th Nov 2017, 10:19PM
  •    Hi CMo

       Silly me, I had a senior moment & put Edward Mason as Catherine Moloney's husband. It should read George Mason.     Have you by any chance got any photographs of them.

       Thank you

        Tillybudd

         
     

    Friday 17th Nov 2017, 10:18PM
  • Thank you very much, Tom for your message & interesting attachments about John O'Brien. We're sorry to hear that he hasn't been well. We will remember him in our prayers.  God Bless him for his work at the Cahir Memorial. It's nice to be able to put a face to the name. We didn't notice the old lampost when we were there.

    We enjoyed the poem about picking the Whorts .

    We've seen the poem about the Inquisitive Mind of a Child before.Someone posted it on the page of one of the Groups we follow

     'In Flanders Field'   is usually recited on Rememberence Sunday. .It's very moving.

     

     Thanks again, Tom
     

     Teresa & Mike

    Saturday 16th Dec 2017, 11:44PM
  • Hello Tom

    Sorry we haven't replied to your posts about Thomas Holloway &  John O'Brien R I P.

    I've only just come across them.

    Has somebody else taken on the job of looking after the Cahir Memorial like John did so well

    Your post about Thomas Holloway & his family was very interesting. Thank you for sending it  & also for letting us know about the death of John O'Brien.

    I've recently posted a 'Trying to find' message re Roger Somers from Roscommon.

     Best wishes      -     Teresa & Mike         

    Friday 15th Jun 2018, 10:54PM
  • Thank you very much Tom for your help.I am really pleased that you were able to give me the Baptism details for Roger Somers & the name of his parents,. I have sent the details on to two people who are connected to the Somers Family Tree, one person is in Canada, the other in Ireland. I gave IRO a mention.

    You may have noticed that Roger McDonnell  gave me the names of some of Rogers children. I have sent those on too. I am very grateful to you both.

    Best wishes

    Teresa & Mike

     

     

    Sunday 17th Jun 2018, 10:03PM
  • Thereas & Michael,

    I could not reply to your email as my personal emails were compromised  and I  had to delete all my contact details.

    I can be contacted on gmail.com  with the same name as before. I hope Mike and yourself are enjoying reasonabe health and  I always visit the War Memorial when I am in Cahir and think of ye.

    Regards

    Tom

    Thomas J, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Tuesday 17th Sep 2019, 09:26PM

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