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Trying to locate any information on the family of James LUBY and his wife Margaret Groark (also sometimes spelled Groarke, Grourke) who appear in both the 1901 and 1911 census records in the townland of Gorteenacammadil in the civil parish of Kiltullagh, Co Roscommon.  

 

James Luby and Margaret Groarke married 1869 in Ballinlough Roman Catholic Church and near as I can determine had at least 9 children:  Patrick b 1871, Thomas b 1872, James b 1875, Stephen b 1877, Martin b 1879, John b 1882, M. Ellen b 1885, Bridget b 1887, and Margaret b 1890.  

 

Eldest son Patrick Luby married Ann (maiden name unknown) c1907 and had at least two children:  Mary E Luby born c1908 and William Patrick Luby born Apr-May-Jun 1910.  

 

If anyone has any information on what Ann's maiden name was or knows who her son William Patrick Luby (1910-1997) married or anything about his offspring, (or indeed any information, perhaps an obituary for him in an Irish newspaper?) I would be very grateful to receive the information.  

 

The source of my information that this LUBY family from Co Roscommon may have some connection to my LUBY / SHANAHAN family from Mississippi, USA comes from two recent but very brief emails I received from a Kevin Luby (born c1970) of Gurteen, Cloonfad, Co Roscommon whose grandfather William Luby (1910-1997) repeated stories to him about receiving Christmas letters and cards from the LUBY family in Mississippi up until about 1927, so I'm hoping to find other LUBY family members from this area that are related to Kevin Luby who can perhaps contribute further information on this particular LUBY line from Co. Roscommon.  

 

Thanks in advance for any help!

Kathy Rhodes

Gr Gr Granddaughter of Michael William Shanahan (c1938-1887)

(son of Thomas Shanahan and Bridget LUBY)

longlocks

Friday 5th Jul 2013, 04:47PM

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  • See page 66 of the Cloonfad 1997 magazine at http://www.cloonfad.org/pastissues.html

    Also 1994 pages 20, 21, 23 and 35. Page 46 of the 1996 issue.

    Sunday 7th Jul 2013, 12:42PM
  • Thank you so much!  How wonderful to find not only pictures of  William "Billy" "Willie" Luby but to also find some of his stories as well!  Can't help but think how thrilled my cousin Beulah "Billie" Pearl Shanahan Murrie (may she rest in peace) would have been to have made this discovery with me.  Billie was "our" story teller in our Shanahan / Luby family and it would have tickled her no end to find another Luby relative (also named Billie!) who loved to tell write and tell stories as much as she did.  

    Gurteen oldest and youngest.  Mrs. Mary Fleming, Mr. Billy Luby, Joanne Cregg and Colm Keane.

    I can't help but wonder if the Mary Fleming pictured with him in the photo above (Gurteen oldest and youngest) might not be his sister Mary?  Frustrating as there is a whole article there written about a conversation with Mary Fleming (that talks a great deal about her husband John Fleming's family, when they married (July 1943), etc.) but not once does it mention Mary Fleming's MAIDEN name!  Grrrr!

    Again, many thanks for pointing me in the right direction!

    Sincerely,

    Kathy Rhodes

    longlocks

    Monday 8th Jul 2013, 02:56PM
  • Mary returned home in September 1943, so it seems she was married in England. John Fleming married Mary Davis in Birmingham registration district, September quarter 1943.

    Cannot help with William Luby. Perhaps one of the members local to Cloonfad can assist.

    Good luck

    Tuesday 9th Jul 2013, 08:05AM
  • Yes, thanks, I see that now, Mary Fleming (wife of John W Fleming married in Jul 1943 in Birmingham England) and that her maiden name is DAVIS rather than LUBY, so she is NOT the sister of William "Billy" Luby!  I am going to try writing to the editor of the Cloonfad Parish Magazine to see if perhaps he can put me in touch with any LUBY family members still living locally in the area.  But I thank you kindly for your assistance!  Much appreciated!  

    longlocks

    Thursday 11th Jul 2013, 04:03PM
  • Hello,

    My name is Kathy.  I reside with my husband and our little girl in South Bend, IN. 

    My Grandmother was born of Mary Ellen Luby from Roscommon.  

    My husband and I made the discovery while on our honeymoon in 2007 - today being our 6th anniversary.

    We sat in the home of our cousins and spoke to them face to face.  Kevin Luby is the one who has become the family archivist for us.  There is another cousin who lives in, I believe, London, who is also very well-informed of much of the family tree.  I don't have her name, but another one of our cousins, from Chicago, has been in contact with her and has a lot on paper.  I will try to get the information.

    I hope we will be able to help!

    God bless you!

     

    Kathy 

     

    Sunday 8th Dec 2013, 06:45PM
  • Dear Kathy,

    Thank you so much for your reply!  It would be so wonderful if you could put me in touch with the Luby cousin in London!  I've only had two emails from Kevin Luby and although he relayed to me that his grandfather William "Billy" Luby mentioned both the Shanahan and Luby familys of Mississippi, (even specifically mentioning my great grandmother Sallie Moina Shanahan and her husband Daniel Freeze by name), I still cannot "connect the dots" to Kevin's Luby family from Roscommon.  I wrote back to him immediately seeking further more detailed information, but as Kevin seemed rather reluctant to correspond I've not pressed him.  So if there is another Luby family member in London who has done research and might be more willing or better able to help, I'd dearly love to get in touch with them!  

    I have several public Luby related trees out on Ancestry.com, one of which details all the information I could find on Kevin Luby's particular Roscommon line and I'd love you to check it out and fill in any blanks particularly with regard to your line through Mary Ellen Luby (I have nothing on her other than her 1911 census record!)  You can go directly to Mary Ellen Luby's entry in this tree at this link:  http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/57684791/person/32025103985 .  You need not be a member of Ancestry.com to view it.  This tree as I mentioned is Public and therefore anyone (even a non member of Ancestry.com) can access it, but I'd like very much to send you a personal invitation to the tree, so that I can set the permissions for you to view "living people" and also give you contributor status so that you can add or correct anything I've got wrong in there, but in order to send/set these permissions I would need an email address for you.  You can email me directly at Little.House.Antiques@comcast.net if you'd like to share your email address with me.  But perhaps you (or your Chicago cousin) already have a tree at Ancestry.com (or elsewhere) online?  If so, I'd love to check it out!  Maybe that one little clue I need to 'connect the dots' to my Luby family is already out there just waiting to be discovered :-)

    Hope to hear from you soon and thank you SO much for taking the time to write!  

    Happy Anniversary and Happy Holidays!

    Kathy Rhodes

    longlocks

    Monday 16th Dec 2013, 11:59AM
  • Dear Kathy,

    Thank you so much for your reply!  It would be so wonderful if you could put me in touch with the Luby cousin in London!  I've only had two emails from Kevin Luby and although he relayed to me that his grandfather William "Billy" Luby mentioned both the Shanahan and Luby familys of Mississippi, (even specifically mentioning my great grandmother Sallie Moina Shanahan and her husband Daniel Freeze by name), I still cannot "connect the dots" to Kevin's Luby family from Roscommon.  I wrote back to him immediately seeking further more detailed information, but as Kevin seemed rather reluctant to correspond I've not pressed him.  So if there is another Luby family member in London who has done research and might be more willing or better able to help, I'd dearly love to get in touch with them!  

    I have several public Luby related trees out on Ancestry.com, one of which details all the information I could find on Kevin Luby's particular Roscommon line and I'd love you to check it out and fill in any blanks particularly with regard to your line through Mary Ellen Luby (I have nothing on her other than her 1911 census record!)  You can go directly to Mary Ellen Luby's entry in this tree at this link:  http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/57684791/person/32025103985 .  You need not be a member of Ancestry.com to view it.  This tree as I mentioned is Public and therefore anyone (even a non member of Ancestry.com) can access it, but I'd like very much to send you a personal invitation to the tree, so that I can set the permissions for you to view "living people" and also give you contributor status so that you can add or correct anything I've got wrong in there, but in order to send/set these permissions I would need an email address for you.  You can email me directly at Little.House.Antiques@comcast.net if you'd like to share your email address with me.  But perhaps you (or your Chicago cousin) already have a tree at Ancestry.com (or elsewhere) online?  If so, I'd love to check it out!  Maybe that one little clue I need to 'connect the dots' to my Luby family is already out there just waiting to be discovered :-)

    Hope to hear from you soon and thank you SO much for taking the time to write!  

    Happy Anniversary and Happy Holidays!

    Kathy Rhodes

    longlocks

    Monday 16th Dec 2013, 12:00PM
  • Dear Kathy

    Did you ever manage to follow up on the missing maiden name? I live near Cloonfad and can assist if you need further information.

    Best wishes

    Clare Doyle

    Genealogy Support 

    Monday 12th May 2014, 01:30PM
  • Dear Clare,

    Thank you for your offer of help for I surely need it.  Despite making initial contact with Kevn Luby of Gurteen Cloonfad Co Roscommon (grandson of William "Billy" Patrick Luby), and some of his relatives that replied to me here on this site, follow through on their part to my inquiries has has not occured and I have not been able without their assistance to figure out who William "Billy" Patrick Luby (1910-1997) was married to, nor when or where he married, nor how many children he may have had.    

    I "suspect" that William "Billy" Patrick Luby had at least two sons; one possibly named John "Alo" Luby and the other possibly named William Gabriel Luby (who possibly married Catherine "Kathleen" A Breslin" circa Apr - Jun 1969 in Brent, London, England) and that William Gabriel Luby and Catherine "Kathleen" Breslin might be the parents of the Kevin Luby of Gurteen Cloonfad Co Roscommon who originally contacted me, but it's about as clear as mud to me.   

    It would surely help me to find the obituary or a death record for William "Billy" Patrick Luby, etc.  So if you've got some resources that you could check or point me in the right direction, I would be ever so grateful for your help!

    Best Regards,

    Kathy Rhodes

     

     

    longlocks

    Monday 12th May 2014, 04:07PM
  • Dear Kathy

    I will make some inroads into finding out about William's death and get back to you in a few days

    Best wishes

    Clare

    Genealogy Support

    Tuesday 13th May 2014, 08:17AM
  • Dear Kathy

    The Luby headstone in Cloonfad Graveyard refers to the following people:

    Mary died Nov 19th 1993 aged 76

    William died Oct 1st 1997

    John died Oct 30th 1867 aged 87

    Hope this helps in your research

    Clare

    Genealogy Support

    Wednesday 14th May 2014, 10:30AM
  • Hi my name is Helen Luby my mother's name is Margaret Luby she was born in Dublin 1941

    Saturday 16th Jan 2016, 06:25PM
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    martincmeehan

    Tuesday 26th Jul 2016, 01:13PM
  • According to Ancestry my 3rd great aunt is the Margaret Groarke originally referenced. She is the sister of my second great grandfather Edward Groarke who had Ann Groarke (Waldron) my great grandmother. My granny’s name is Mary Woods (Groarke) of Cuiltyboe. She moved to Chicago very young. Her mother Anne died when she was was only 3 and her father, Patrick Woods, my great grandfather was sort of a grifter with not a lot of background. Limerick I think. My granny was mainly raised by distant relatives, Naughtons, in Chicago. My name is Patrick and I live in Chicago. I find all of this very interesting. 

    pskly

    Wednesday 6th May 2020, 05:39AM

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