My greatgrandparents, Eliza (DOB Aug. 31/1847) and William (DOB 1846) Dale lived in Belturbet, Cavan. The married Aug. 4/1847 in Drumlane, Cavan. William passed between Oct and Dec 1879. I have been unable to get a date or cause. I can't trace back any further re William except his father's name was Adam. Eliza emigrated to Peterborough, Ontario, Canada where her children William, Hugh Robert and Louise (unsure if that is official birth name order) also resided. I believe Elizabeth (Eliza)'s parents were Rachael & William Lamb. I believe they had two other children Emily who passed at or shortly after birth in 1869 and Adam who was born in 1871 and passed at age six or 7 ?
My greatgrandparents on grandma's side also came from Ireland - Moses & Elizabeth Ruth. I have been unable to get information on them.
Any help would be greatly appreciated !
Thank you
Louise (Dale)
LLzBellz
Wednesday 18th Dec 2013, 01:47AMMessage Board Replies
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Hi Louise
There is a burial / death record of William Dale 1879 Cavan on www.rootsireland.ie/
It gives his age as 34. The parish is ANNA C of I; I'm not sure of the parents' names or cause of death would be on the record but you need to purchase credit to view the records on rootsireland
I couldn't find any of the other records such as William's birth / marriage , Eliza's birth or the marriage of Moses & Elizabeth
Col
ColCaff, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
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Thank you Col !!! It is hell on wheels trying to find info. I will take a look at your link tomorrow. Is a death/burial record the same as the death note on rootsireland? If so, I've already seen that and it didn't give any additional info like where he's buried, etc..
Louise
LLzBellz
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Hi Louise
Welcome to the joys and frustrations of Irish genealogy!!
I had a look at the death record of W D and it is as you said - William Dale age 34
address Belturbet Co Cavan Denom C of I sex Male; graveyard & informant are not filled in.
But it does have date of death 27 Oct 1879 & ceremony performed by Thomas Jackson
I assume you are in Canada so have a rum & egg-nog - I enjoyed them when I lived in B C.
Merry Christmas!
Col
ColCaff, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
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Louise,
Griffiths Valuation for 1857 lists just one Adam Dale in Belturbet. He lived on plot 38 on Holborn Hill, which was a house, outbuildings, a yard and small garden. He also had a separate piece of land on Black Bog where he cut his turf (peat).
http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=nameSearch
I can?t see a death listed for him so he probably died before 1864 (which is when death registration began).
Possible marriage for William Dale to Eliza Lamb was registered in Cavan town 1868, vol 13, page 71.
You can order a photocopy from GRO Roscommon for ?4 per certificate. Put the place, year, quarter (where there is one), volume & page number on the application form (anywhere). Don?t worry about leaving some boxes blank. You don?t need to fill them all in if you have the reference details. http://www.groireland.ie/ You have to post or fax the form to them but they will e-mail the copy certificate to you if you wish. Tick the relevant box on the form.
Tradition was to marry in the bride?s church (assuming the couple attended different churches) so that may be the place to look for the bride?s baptism and that of any siblings. Unless it was a registry office marriage, the specific church and denomination will be on the certificate.
If you want to find out William?s cause of death, and who the informant was, then you need to order a copy of the death certificate. The transcript on the rootsireland site doesn?t contain all the information on the atcual death certificate.
The details are: Cavan town, Oct ? Dec 1879, Vol 3, page 61. (Order from GRO Roscommon as per the marriage above).
Elwyn
Ahoghill Antrim
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Morning Col:
Wow... that is fabulous information ! Thank you so much.
Yep... I'm in Ajax, Ontario, Canada (originally Peterborough, ON) of course LOL
As I've been tracing my ancestors I cannot believe the hardships they endured. Losing their children at young ages (my g/grandmother on grandma's side lost 3 of her children one week before Christmas in the late 1800's - all under 9 years). We tend to think life is hard now but in comparison, it's nothing.
You might be interested to know that the names of most places in and around Peterborough, ON are Irish LOL so it's quite obvious who settled where.
Merry Christmas to you and yours ....
Kindest regards
Louise
LLzBellz
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Morning Elwyn:
Thank you so much for this information.. truly appreciated. I haven't even got to whether Eliza or William had siblings which, of course, they did. I know they were married in Drumlane. Tradition seems to be to name the offspring for a family member ( I know I am named for g/pa's sister). As a result I have William's and Elizabeth's up the wazoo which makes tracing even harder.
Better late than never !
Kindest regards
Louise
LLzBellz