Hello, I write in the faint hope that someone MIGHT be able to shed a small bit of light on the origins of my g g grandfather, who was transported to Australia from Longford in 1834 when he was 13 or 14. This is what I have so far (which is very light on crucial and firm data):
Name: Peter McNabo/Mulvanny/Manany - his middle name might have been Charles. After some time in Austalia he called himself McBow and all his children have that name
Year Born: abt 1820
Mother's Name: 'might' have been Mary
Father's Name: unknown
Native Place: listed as Longford
Catholic/illiterate
Errand boy at time of arrest
Arrested in Longford for stealing combs
Sentence: transportation - 7 years to Australia on the Ship James Laing, left Dublin Feb 1834 arrived New South Wales 29 June 1834, indentured to Robert Bonner from Bathurst
After issued with certificate of freedom eventually made his way to the Hunter Valley. Married Maria Callaby at Patricks Plains, NSW in 1857 - Catholic ceremony, used the name McNabo on marriage certificate
Died in Rockhampton, Queensland 1869
Other places of origin listed on various childrens' birth/baptismal records - Blackwater, Ireland and Belfast, Ireland
Some time ago, a kind officer working at the library in Longford who was not able to dig up much advised that his name was most likely McNabo
I will be visiting Longford in a few months and it would be lovely to go somewhere relevant to him. I feel very sad for him being sent here so young. As things stand now, I will probably just be visiting the court house!
If there is any help or direction or advice anyone can provide, it would be so much appreciated.
thanks
Sunday 6th Aug 2017, 10:26AM
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afterbanns:
Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out!
I searched on Roots Ireland for all of Ireland from 1815-1825 for a Peter McNabo and got no record.
I tried Peter Mulvany and came up with one 1815 record in Co. Meath. See trancription below. Likely this is an unrelated record but I thought I would share.
Have you considered autosomal DNA testin g?
Roger McDonnell
Name:Peter MulvanyDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:16-Nov-1815Address:
Parish/District:OldcastleGender:
CountyCo. Meath
Denomination:
Father:Patrick MulvanyMother:Catherine SlevinOccupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:Mulvanny Patrick Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Slevin MaryCastlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
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Thank you, Roger! Well that is the closest looking record to what 'might' be him that I have come across. Just looking at Google Maps, Oldcastle doesn't seem that far from Longford? and one of the informants' names is Mary. The name of 'Mary' being his mother did not actually appear until his death certificate. Am puzzled why he put so many different places of origin on various official documents. Anyway...thank you. Will pursue this for a bit.
'autosomal DNA testing'? does it hurt much? ;) I haven't really looked into DNA testing but will check that out.
Thanks again, very much appreciated.
g
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g:
Background https://www.thoughtco.com/autosomal-dna-testing-for-genealogy-1421845
Each testing company has a different process. Ancestry aks that you put some saliva in a small tube. Family Tree has you swab your inner cheeks.
Roger
Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
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Hello Roger, well I did the Ancestry.com DNA test and it came back telling me of my ancestral places of origin which did not really tell me much that I didn't know apart from the Polynesian connection..
It has thrown a few people at me that I am probably related to who are also descendants of the chap I seek, however they have the same information I have and use the same name (which is not his real name) and therefore shed no light on his origin.
I am searching now using his aliases to see if that sheds any light.
regards
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afterbanns:
Look into Gedmatch www.gedmatch.com Gedmatch is a volunteer run site where you can load your raw Ancestry DNA data and see who you match from othe rtesting companies (and also loaded their data to Gedmatch). It expands your matching pool.
Roger
Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
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At a recent genealogy meeting an Ancestry.com representative explained that "Polynesian ethnicity" can be read as an euphemism for "Indigenous Australian". Apparently it is illegal to send indigenous Australian DNA material offshore. Not sure if that helps? Regards, Shirley
sturner2701
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g,
Is there any information on his parent's names from Peter Manany/McNabo/Mulvanny's marriage certificate / death certificate / tombstone ?.
I note that the Irish surname McNabo is Victory in English, so watch out for that surname also. No Peter McNabo/Victory appear to have been baptised in County Longford 1801 - 1828. However, this is probably due to the fact that only three parishes in County Longford have records which commence prior to 1820.
I see just 2 McNaboe/McNaboo occupiers mentioned in my Griffith's Primary Valuation index book on County Longford in 1854, along with 23 Victory occupiers.
David Leahy
Email: davidleahy @ eircom.net
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David Leahy, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘︎
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Hello and thank you to all who have replied! I did catch up with some relatives online I met through GEDMatch and the Irish DNA Registry. I also enlisted the help of an Irish Genealogist who, while not able to give me a lot more info than I already had was pretty much convinced due to various things that his name was McNaboe and that the so called 'aliases' came about due to the fact that he was tried in an English speaking judicial system and the name was misherd. I also found out, interestingly enough, that he had a partner in crime, the same age as himself who was also transported but on a seperate ship. So am hoping that if I can find that person's place of birth, I might be able to get a bit closer to my g g grandfather's place of birth. But having a name is really a great bonus and relief. Anyhow, I will put up a seperate post about the other fellow on the Longford board here on Ireland Reaching out and see if anyone know so him. I have not been able to find much about him on ancestry.com.au and there has been a couple of mistakes in transcribing by the looks. Thanks again. g