I am honestly trying to find out where my John Grace that ended up in Biddulph Township, Ontario,Canada in 1843 came from. I think he married his wife Bridget Carroll in Ireland first before coming across in 1843. I am only going by family lore and the fact that most people that settled in his area in Canada came from around Tipperary. But there is also some speculation they came from County Kilkenny.There was a Patrick Grace/Bridget Blake family, that I have not been able to confirm is related or not, that settled in the same area in Canada. I have been able to confirm Patrick/Bridget were married in Terryglass on 04 Feb 1838. I have also found some of their childrens birth records in Carrig, Monsea,Tipperary. I have not found any data on John Grace/ Bridget Carroll in Ireland yet. It could be possible that John and Bridget were married in Canada but I have not found a record yet. Only their childrens Canadien birth records. Any help or ideas would be appreciated.
remarques
Wednesday 4th Sep 2013, 12:05AMMessage Board Replies
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Thank you for your message.
Unfortunately, it may be difficult to find information without a more specific place of origin. Most Irish record sources- church records, land records, census records- are based on specific locations. Until you know a specific location within Ireland, preferably a parish or placename, it may be difficult to do anything more with these records.
Do you have any documentation pertaining to the family that mentions any place names at all? This can include wills, marriage/death records,census records, letters, diary entries etc.
There are some places where you can search online, however it may be difficult to discern whether the results are relevant to your family or not without more information:
www.familysearch.org has a huge database of genealogical records including some church records for Ireland.
www.rootsireland.ie have a large collection of Irish Church records, however you have to pay to use this site.
Have you tried looking into the family?s emigration? Sometimes more infomation can be found at the port of arrival rather than that of departure. You may be lucky and find a place name here. For information on Canadian immigration records check http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/index-e.html
I did a search for John Grace in the Tithe Applotment Books in Kilkenny, here are the John?s recorded between 1825 and 1833:
Unfortunately, however these land records give no genealogical information so it is impossible to tell whether any of these are relevant to you. However, it may narrow down the number of parishes to look at.
Some other websites that may be helpful are:
The National Archives of Ireland http://www.nationalarchives.ie/genealogy1/genealogy-records/introduction/
The National Library of Ireland http://www.nli.ie/en/family-history-introduction.aspx
Irish Times: http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/index.htm
Irish Genealogy Tool kit: http://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com/
Genealogy links: http://www.genealogylinks.net/uk/ireland/kilkenny/index.html
From Ireland: www.from-ireland.net
Kilkenny Library: http://kilkennylibrary.kilkenny.ie/eng/Our_Services/Local_Studies/Genealogical_Sources_for_family_research/
Remember to post any new information that you find here. The more information you post, the more likely it is that one of our volunteers will be able to advise or assist you. Also include information concerning which sources you may have already used so others may further your search.
Kind regards,
Genealogy Support