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Good Day;

My name is Robert Dunne. My mother's family comes from Carrick-on-Suir. I was told that the "O" in O'Mahony was dropped at some point, but I did not know when. The following is the obituary of my Great Grand Father'. There is no recognizable name for the paper. This is it verbatim.

                                              CARRICK FENIAN'S DEATH

                                                             4-29-25

THE DEATH OCCURRED ON SUNDAY OF MR. JOHN O'MAHONY, STRAND LANE,CARRICK ON SUIR. DECEASED, WHO HAD REACHED AN ADVANCED AGE TOOK A PROMINENT PART IN THE FENIAN MOVEMENT, AND WAS "OUT", ON THE HISTORIC NIGHT OF THE FENIAN RISING IN MARCH, 1867. HE WAS A VERY ESTIMABLE AND INTERESTING OLD MAN. HE WAS THE LAST OF THE CARRICK NAIL MAKERS, AND WAS A FAMILIAR FIGURE UP TO ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO, IN HIS NAIL MAKING FORGE ON THE OLD BRIDGE. THE FORGE HAD DISAPPEARED A FEW YEARS AGO. THE FUNERAL ON TUESDAY LAST WAS LARGELY ATTENDED.

The entire obit was in capital letters. Any further info would be greatly appreciated.

Thank Yo for Your Time.

MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Friday 20th Dec 2013, 03:55PM

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  • This looks to be your ancestor in the 1901 census:

    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Carrick_On_Suir/Strand_Lane/1695120/

    and in 1911:

    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Carrick_on_Suir__Urban_/Quay/839948/

    I can see a possibkle marriage that might fit this couple. John Mahoney to Ellen Ryan, registered Clonmel 1866 volume 9, page 344. (The O & Mc prefixes in some Irish names can be detachable. Sometimes you find them used, and sometimes not. It's absence or presence doesn't always indicate a conscious decision about changing the name).

    Ahoghill Antrim

    Friday 20th Dec 2013, 05:03PM
  • AHOGHILL:

     

     WROTE A QUICK REPLY, BUT I DON'T THINK IT WENT THRU.

    SO I WILL SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR QUICK REPLY. I HOPE THIS IS THE START OF A NICE JOURNEY TO GO BACK AND VISIT SOME OF MY ANCESTORS AND I HAVE YOU TO THANK FOR THE "GREAT" HEADSTART. MY SIBLINGS WILL BE THRILLED.

    THANK YOU AGAIN!

    HAVE A MERRY, MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR!

    PS-IT WAS FUNNY TO SEE MY GRANDFATHER'S NAME(JAMES) AND SEE AGE 19. I SAW HIM AND STILL SEE HIM, IN MY MIND'S EYE., AS A GRAY HAIRED(HE STILL HAD ALL HIS HAIR) LEAN,WELL DRESSED(ALWAYS WORE A SUIT) ALMOST NOBLE, KIND MAN, WHO LOVED TO TAKE WALKS AND TELL STORIES. I WISH I WROTE THE STORIES DOWN, I REMEMBER THEM AS BEING VERY FUNNY. 

    WELL, I WILL STOP RAMBLING AND JUST REPEAT MY THANK YOU. IT WAS VERY KIND OF YOU!

    ,

     

    Friday 20th Dec 2013, 05:27PM
  • Ahoghill;

    I believe you are 100% right. There was definitely RYAN on my mother's side. 

    Boy you are quick! Thank You again. 

    BE WELL!!!!

    BOB DUNNE

    Friday 20th Dec 2013, 05:34PM
  • Bob,

     

    Glad to help. I would order  acopy of the 1866 marriage cert to see where they were living at that time. It will also give you the fathers names and their occupations, all of which may help you research further.

    You can order a photocopy from GRO Roscommon for ?4 per certificate. Put the place, year, quarter (where there is one), volume & page number on the application form (anywhere). Don?t worry about leaving some boxes blank. You don?t need to fill them all in if you have the reference details. http://www.groireland.ie/ You have to post or fax the form to them but they will e-mail the copy certificate to you if you wish. Tick the relevant box on the form.

    Tradition was to marry in the bride?s church (assuming the couple attended different churches) so that may be the place to look for the bride?s baptism and that of any siblings. Unless it was a registry office marriage, the specific church and denomination will be on the certificate.

    Elwyn

    Ahoghill Antrim

    Friday 20th Dec 2013, 07:51PM
  • Elwyn;

    Thank you again, that is a tremendous help. The item about marrying in the bride's church was very helpful, I had no idea. I feel if I get the CERT, I can really get some good info. THANK YOU AGAIN. MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!

    OOPS-Forgot one question, don't rush your answer, please do it at your leisure. What is or was a TIPPERARY STONE THROWER? HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.

    Bob Dunne

    Friday 20th Dec 2013, 08:30PM
  • As I understand it, the Stone Throwers were youths from Tipperary Hill who, in the 1920s, objected to a new traffic light on Tipperary Hill because it sported the British "red" prominently placed over the Irish "green". Traditional "red-over-green" lights were interpreted as symbols of England over Ireland and offended the youths of the close-knit Irish neighborhood. I gather they kept breaking the red light till it was altered to have the red underneath the green.

    (I assume there wasn?t a lot to keep the kids of Syracuse occupied in the 1920s if this was how they decided to spend their spare time? However it makes an amusing story.)

    There?s a similar bit of fun in Glasgow involving the Duke of Wellington (Irish born of course). There?s a statue of him riding his horse on a plinth in the main square in Glasgow city centre. Most weekends people climb up and put a traffic cone on his head (or occasionally, to make it more interesting, under his arm instead). Sometimes his horse gets a cone too. The city authorities send someone along every Monday morning to remove the cones. This is reckoned to have cost thousands of pounds over the years. Recently the authorities proposed raising the statue higher up to make it harder to climb. There was a massive protest in the city, as it has become a national pastime. Tourists apparently now come specially to take photos of the statue, and naturally you can now buy sweatshirts with an image of the statue and a cone on Wellington?s head.

    If you google ?Duke of Wellington statue Glasgow? you?ll get loads of pictures. Or you can read about it here:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-24907190

    Ahoghill Antrim

    Saturday 21st Dec 2013, 06:22PM
  • Thank you again. I'm starting to feel guilty about you giving me so much good info. It is much appreciated. Again, HAVE A MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR.

     

    Bob Dunne

    Saturday 21st Dec 2013, 06:42PM

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