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Carlye:

www.irishgenealogy.ie is an Irish government web site that has some Co. Kerry baptismal and marriage records including some for Valentia parish. I searched under Julia Connell and did find the baptismal records for Mary in 1872 and Johanna in 1875. I also found a third baptismal record for a Julia Neill born on 11/28/1878 to Felix Neill and Julia Connell. That record is below. Not sure if this child survived into adulthood. I also looked at the 1901 census for Coarhabeg (spelling in the census) and there were a number of Connell families in that townland.

Roger McDonnell

Area - KERRY (RC) , Parish/Church/Congregation - VALENTIA

Baptism of JULIA NEILL of COROBEG on 30 November 1878

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Name	JULIA NEILL
Date of Birth	28 November 1878
Address	COROBEG
Father	FELIX NEILL
Mother	JULIA CONNELL

Further details in the record

Child Denomination	RC
Father Occupation	NR
Sponsor 1	JAMES SULLIVAN
Sponsor 2	HONORA KEATING

Hello there,

I believe that Julia had a brother Bartholomew, Felix and Julia were sponsors at his daughters baptism.

Area - KERRY (RC) , Parish/Church/Congregation - VALENTIA
Baptism of MARY NEIL of COROBEG on 30 October 1872

Name
MARY NEIL
Date of Birth
28 October 1872
Address
COROBEG
Father
FELIX NEIL
Mother
JULIA CONNELL
Further details in the record
Child Denomination
RC
Father Occupation
NR
Sponsor 1
MICHAEL O'CONNELL
Sponsor 2
CATHERINE MURPHY
Priest
NR

Name     JOHANNA NEIL
Date of Birth     1 February 1875
Address     COROBEG
Father     FELIX NEIL
Mother     JULIA CONNELL
Further details in the record
Child Denomination    RC
Father Occupation    NR
Sponsor 1    MICHAEL O'CONNELL
Sponsor 2    ELLEN KEATING
Priest    NR

Area - KERRY (RC) , Parish/Church/Congregation - VALENTIA

Baptism of JULIA NEILL of COROBEG on 30 November 1878

Name     JULIA NEILL
Date of Birth     28 November 1878
Address     COROBEG
Father     FELIX NEILL
Mother     JULIA CONNELL
Further details in the record
Child Denomination    RC
Father Occupation    NR
Sponsor 1    JAMES SULLIVAN
Sponsor 2    HONORA KEATING
Priest    NR

Julia died 1880

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Kerry/Valentia/Coarhab…

Area - KERRY (RC) , Parish/Church/Congregation - VALENTIA

Baptism of MARY CONNELL of COROBEG on 1 August 1871

Name     MARY CONNELL
Date of Birth     29 July 1871
Address     COROBEG
Father     BARTHOLOMEW CONNELL
Mother     MARY SULLIVAN
Further details in the record
Child Denomination    RC
Father Occupation    NR
Sponsor 1    FELIX NEIL
Sponsor 1 Address    NR
Sponsor 2    JOHANNA NEIL
Sponsor 2 Address    NR
Priest    NR

Brendan

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Thank you for this helpful information.  Does anyone know who godparents/sponsors were in those years? For example, these days in the U.S., godparents/sponsors of a child's baptism are usually siblings or friends of the parents (and usually from the same generation as the parents). Does anyone know whether this is how it was done back in Ireland during these times?

I think that Julia Connell (who married Felix Neil) may have had a brother named John Connell who married a Mary Neil.  This Mary Neil died about 1874. John and Mary had a son Patrick who married Mary Shea. I think that John's and Julia's father was named Michael Connell.  Can anyone help me to confirm these relationships or shed light?

Also, I am planning a trip to Valentia for April (my first visit).  Does anyone have any idea where Felix and Julia (Connell) Neil would be buried?

Thank you so much.

Carlye:

In my experience, baptismal sponsors were either relatives or friends. Below is a link to the Catholic Church in Valentia (Immaculate Conception) which was built in 1914. I would be e-mail them.They should be able to tell you where your family might be buried.

Roger

http://www.dioceseofkerry.ie/parish.php?parish=Valentia

Thanks for the link to the church. I emailed them. Hopefully they will be able to help!

Do you all (those of you who help people on this site) live on the island?

Carlye:

I live in the States (Maryland) and I believe Brendan lives in Dublin. Some of the parish liaisons live locally in the parish. There is no current parish liaison for Valentia.

There are about five of us who look at all the messages and try to help anyone that we can. We get about 20 messsages a day on average but it will pick up in the next couple months.

Roger

Hi Carlye,

Valentia Island has its own genealogy forum, join for free and post your question.

http://valentiaisland.yuku.com/topic/384/Valentia-Genealogy?page=4

Brendan

Thanks Brendan. I posted there on yuku (my message is the last post) but no replies yet.

Can I ask you guys a question about how to interpret the data in Griffith's valuation? My understanding is that the numbered lots in the map correspond to the numbers listed in the far-left-hand column of the valuation datasheets. There is a numbered lot "22" on the island which is the lot where my ancestors lived (Felix Neil) but when I look through the lists of names and properties, the numbered lots for Corhabeg only go up to 12.  Am I missing something?

Hi Carlye,

Griffiths Valuation was compiled by a valuer, the census was compiled by enumerators. The order that the valuer compiled his records is different to census returns.

Brendan

Maybe I don't understand the Griffith valuation very well. I thought it consisted of maps and then the datasheets ot property owners reflected in the maps (by lot numbers).

Does anyone know anything about Foley family members on the island?  My great-great-great-grandparents were John Foley and Nellie (Murphy) Foley. They had several children, most of whom emigrated to the U.S. Their children were Nora, Michael, THomas, Mary, Patrick, Dennis, Nellie...all born in the late 1800s...Dennis is the only one who stayed in Ireland as far as I know. He probably died in the early 1950s.  My great-grandmother said that the Foleys were from a part of the island called "The Strand." She went back in the 1960s and asked around but everyone said that there were no Foleys on the island. I am guessing it's because John, Nellie, and Dennis had died, and the rest of the kids had come to the U.S....