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Hello,

I have a parish record of baptism for my 2nd great grandfather, Andrew Simon Noonan (mother, Honora Sullivan). Sponsors were Margeret Noonan and Andrew Noonan.

Baptism: 6 Dec 1864 in (From Tralagh, now Tralee) Firies Parish/Church, County Kerry, Ireland. Death 1932, Worcester, MA - arrived US in 1886, married Johannah "Hannah" McGillicuddy 23rd April 1889 in Grafton, MA. The link to the record itself: http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/19ac610239…

I cannot find this parish/church mentioned on this website, nor many others. Could this parish have been absorbed by another, or could this have been a church that no longer exists?

Thank you.

Jo

Thursday 7th Nov 2013, 08:10AM

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  • Jo:


    The name of the church is St. gertrudes in Firies. Firies or Fieries is in Kilnanare civil parish. Below is the address and two links regarding the church and a national school.


    Roger McDonnell


    Firies RC Parish:


    Church of St. Gertrude
    Firies, Kilnanare
    Co. Kerry, Ireland
    (066) 9764122


    http://www.buildingsofireland.ie/niah/search.jsp?type=record&county=KE&regno=21304801


    http://www.firiesnationalschool.ie/


     

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Thursday 7th Nov 2013, 03:39PM
  • Ah, you are a prince, thanks much - that is a huge help.

    Love the church and school....glad to see Halloween is doing well there; the kids had great costumes!

    Thursday 7th Nov 2013, 05:44PM
  • Hi Jo,

     

    You can look up Kerry church records and find information on christenings and some marriages in Firies under Molahiffe parish. The local cemetery is also in Molahiffe townland. I also have relatives in that part of the county.

     

    Lizssister

    Lizssister

    Saturday 9th Nov 2013, 06:07PM
  • Hi,

    Glad folks were able to help you with Firies Parish. Some of Firies Catholic Parish was given over to the Parish of Fossa in the 1890s. Also could be wrong but I don't think the Tralagh you cite in the Baptismal records for your family refers to Tralee but to a local place or Townland in Firies Parish.

    There is a Simon Noonan listed in the Griffith's Vauations for Co. Kerry. You should know and may have picked up from the baptismal records that some of the Noonan families in and around Firies parish were know interchangeably as Noonan and Neenan. My great grandmother, Mary Noonan (Mrs. Patrick Hickey), daughter of Cornelius Noonan and Honora Dwyer, of Barleymount West (now Fossa Parish), was baptized in Firies (though possibly at the church in Ballyhar) in 1863, died Brooklyn, NY, 1914.

    Best,

    Ed Stewart

    Saturday 4th Jan 2014, 03:35PM
  • Hi,

    Glad folks were able to help you with Firies Parish. Some of Firies Catholic Parish was given over to the Parish of Fossa in the 1890s. Also could be wrong but I don't think the Tralagh you cite in the Baptismal records for your family refers to Tralee but to a local place or Townland in Firies Parish.

    There is a Simon Noonan listed in the Griffith's Vauations for Co. Kerry. You should know and may have picked up from the baptismal records that some of the Noonan families in and around Firies parish were know interchangeably as Noonan and Neenan. My great grandmother, Mary Noonan (Mrs. Patrick Hickey), daughter of Cornelius Noonan and Honora Dwyer, of Barleymount West (now Fossa Parish), was baptized in Firies (though possibly at the church in Ballyhar) in 1863, died Brooklyn, NY, 1914.

    Best,

    Ed Stewart

    Saturday 4th Jan 2014, 03:37PM
  • Hi,

    Glad folks were able to help you with Firies Parish. Some of Firies Catholic Parish was given over to the Parish of Fossa in the 1890s. Also could be wrong but I don't think the Tralagh you cite in the Baptismal records for your family refers to Tralee but to a local place or Townland in Firies Parish.

    There is a Simon Noonan listed in the Griffith's Vauations for Co. Kerry. You should know and may have picked up from the baptismal records that some of the Noonan families in and around Firies parish were know interchangeably as Noonan and Neenan. My great grandmother, Mary Noonan (Mrs. Patrick Hickey), daughter of Cornelius Noonan and Honora Dwyer, of Barleymount West (now Fossa Parish), was baptized in Firies (though possibly at the church in Ballyhar) in 1863, died Brooklyn, NY, 1914.

    Best,

    Ed Stewart

    Saturday 4th Jan 2014, 03:37PM
  • //"You can look up Kerry church records and find information on christenings and some marriages in Firies under Molahiffe parish"//

    Thanks, Lizssister, I will check those records, too; that may be helpful for finding Andrew Noonan's parents.

    //"Some of Firies Catholic Parish was given over to the Parish of Fossa in the 1890s"//

    That's not a concern at the moment, as that's quite a bit later then what I'm researching - but it might be handy for tracking descendents later; ty.

    //"There is a Simon Noonan listed in the Griffith's Vauations for Co. Kerry."//

    Yes, Edward - I believe - with the info I have so far, anyway -  that is the correct Simon, who would have been farming land not too far outside of what is now Tralee. I am still checking to be sure.

    //"Also could be wrong but I don't think the Tralagh you cite in the Baptismal records for your family refers to Tralee but to a local place or Townland in Firies Parish."//

    Perhaps you are correct; I will check further. I had assumed it was the same because of the Griffith's Valuations match, but it bears further investigation. Thank you! This website has been invaluable - I can't thank everyone involved enough.

     

    Thursday 6th Mar 2014, 08:13PM
  • The Townland of Tralagh in Firies Parish is probably now the place spelled Tralia.

    See this farmhouse for rent in Firies Parish: http://www.homeaway.com/vacation-rental/p1140393

    I don't believe Tralagh or Tralia as in the Griffith's Valuation is connected with Tralee but I could be wrong.

    Thursday 6th Mar 2014, 09:28PM
  • The Townland of Tralagh in Firies Parish is probably now the place spelled Tralia.

    See this farmhouse for rent in Firies Parish: http://www.homeaway.com/vacation-rental/p1140393

    I don't believe Tralagh or Tralia as in the Griffith's Valuation is connected with Tralee but I could be wrong.

    Thursday 6th Mar 2014, 09:28PM
  • The Townland of Tralagh in Firies Parish is probably now the place spelled Tralia.

    See this farmhouse for rent in Firies Parish: http://www.homeaway.com/vacation-rental/p1140393

    I don't believe Tralagh or Tralia as in the Griffith's Valuation is connected with Tralee but I could be wrong.

    Thursday 6th Mar 2014, 09:29PM
  • The Townland of Tralagh in Firies Parish is probably now the place spelled Tralia.

    See this farmhouse for rent in Firies Parish: http://www.homeaway.com/vacation-rental/p1140393

    I don't believe Tralagh or Tralia as in the Griffith's Valuation is connected with Tralee but I could be wrong.

    Thursday 6th Mar 2014, 09:29PM
  • The Townland of Tralagh in Firies Parish is probably now the place spelled Tralia.

    See this farmhouse for rent in Firies Parish: http://www.homeaway.com/vacation-rental/p1140393

    I don't believe Tralagh or Tralia as in the Griffith's Valuation is connected with Tralee but I could be wrong.

    Thursday 6th Mar 2014, 09:29PM
  • The Townland of Tralagh in Firies Parish is probably now the place spelled Tralia.

    See this farmhouse for rent in Firies Parish: http://www.homeaway.com/vacation-rental/p1140393

    I don't believe Tralagh or Tralia as in the Griffith's Valuation is connected with Tralee but I could be wrong.

    Thursday 6th Mar 2014, 09:29PM
  • The Townland of Tralagh in Firies Parish is probably now the place spelled Tralia.

    See this farmhouse for rent in Firies Parish: http://www.homeaway.com/vacation-rental/p1140393

    I don't believe Tralagh or Tralia as in the Griffith's Valuation is connected with Tralee but I could be wrong.

    Thursday 6th Mar 2014, 09:29PM
  • I think you're right. Tralee (the capital of Co. Kerry) is apparently split between the St. John's and St. Brendan's parishes. Tralee isn't in the Kilnanare parish, it's in the Annagh parish, I believe. Perhaps someone from the area could clear this up for me? I may be having some confusion between parish areas & townships.

    I think the confusion for me began because I saw Irish records that noted that the current capital, Tralee, was also written as Tralagh in some older records.

    I'm wondering how to confirm that today's Tralia may have been Tralagh. On the map, it's about in the right area where the Griffith's Evaluation placed Noonan's leased farm area.

    Friday 7th Mar 2014, 01:12AM
  • Just wanted to let people know that Griffith's Land Valuation, covering the years 1847-1854 is available, for free online at http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/.

    Tuesday 30th Dec 2014, 12:29PM
  • Hi Jo and Edward,

    The baptism for Andrew is recorded in the Roman Catholic Parish of Firies.

    His address is in the townland of Tralagh, not the town of Tralee.

    The parishes listed in Griffith's Valuation are Civil Parishes..(taxation districts)

    marriage Simon and Helen/Honora http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/eae49a0550855 

    townland Dromreag matches listing for Simon in Griffith's http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=doNameSearch&Submit.x=60&Submit.y=7&Submit=Submit&familyname=Noonan&firstname=Simon&baronyname=&countyname=KERRY&unionname=

    Lots of baptisms in RC Parish Firies with Simon Noonan

    http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/search.jsp?name2fm=&name2l=&namefm=Simon&namel=Noonan&exact=true&location=Firies&yyfrom=&yyto=&submit=Search&sort=&pageSize=100&diocese=KERRY+%28RC%29&parish=&century=&decade=&ddBfrom=&ddMfrom=&ddDfrom=&mmBfrom=&mmMfrom=&mmDfrom=&yyBfrom=&yyMfrom=&yyDfrom=&ddBto=&ddMto=&ddDto=&mmBto=&mmMto=&mmDto=&yyBto=&yyMto=&yyDto=&locationB=&locationM=&locationD=&member0=&member1=&member2=&member3=&member4=&member5=&member6=&member7=&member8=&member9=&namef0=&namef1=&namef2=&namef3=&namef4=&namef5=&namef6=&namef7=&namef8=&namef9=&namel0=&namel1=&namel2=&namel3=&namel4=&namel5=&namel6=&namel7=&namel8=&namel9=&keyword=&event=B

    Modern day Tralee has indeed 2 RC parishes. 

    Good luck

    Martine

    Saturday 5th Sep 2015, 08:26PM
  • Still working on it, but Honorah Sullivan was my Gr Gr Grandfather's sister (I think)

    Debbie Mc

    Sunday 5th Jan 2020, 08:36PM

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