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Hello!  My gr. gr. Grandparents were Patrick and Mary Keating.  Their names are on a headstone for my gr. grandmother Maria Keating, died 1892 (headstone in the old Carmelite Abbey graveyard, Loughrea).  I have heard that the Keatings in this family came from Tynagh.  I found a Patrick Keating from Gartnasillagh in a Tithe Book for 1836. (Don't know if this is the right person.) His wife's name was Mary and her maiden name may have been Connolly (but I don't know this for sure).  I assume that Patrick and Mary Keating lived from late 1700's/early 1800s to mid-1800's.  (Maria Keating was married to Patrick Burke of Loughrea.) 

I would be very happy to know anything else about my gr gr grandparents:  where they lived, Mary's maiden name, other children besides Maria, and finally what their own parents' names were.

Thank you very much for any information which could be provided.

CMST

Friday 25th Jan 2013, 01:54PM

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  • Hi Cindy,

    Griffiths Valuation of 1855/6 shows a Patrick Keating  living in Brackery South, Tynagh and also a Redmond Keating in Tynagh villlage.

    Also of interest is that former Australian Prime Minister Paul Keating traces his ancestors to Tynagh but I am not sure whether this was his paternal Keating line.

    Regards,

    Christy Cunniffe

     

    Griffiths Valuation

    Keating         Patrick          Brackery South                     Tynagh     Galway
    Keating         Redmond          Tynagh                             Tynagh     Galway
     

    Friday 25th Jan 2013, 05:32PM
  • Hi Cindy,

    This is a list of Keatings that left Tynagh for Australia in the 1850s. Note the phonetic spelling of the name. This is an abstract from the ?GALWAY EMIGRANT INDEX 1828 ? 1866?.

    You will be able to Google this and bring it up. There may be other relations of the Keatings also recorded on this list.

    Regards

    Christy C.

    KEATON  John           1855    45      Tynagh  Mathew / Mary xx - both dead.  Wife=Mary,34 & 8 chn on bd.     Cous=Mathew KEATING,Melbourne. Ship =  Mangerton      Family paid for by John Larkin.

    KEATON  John           1855    9       Tynagh  John / Mary LARKIN    
    On board this ship.    7 siblings on board.     Ship =  Mangerton     
    KEATON  Martin         1855    16      Tynagh  John / Mary LARKIN    
    On board this ship.    7 siblings on board.     Ship =  Mangerton     
    KEATON  Mary           1855    34      Tynagh  Hugh LARKIN / Elizabeth xx Dead.       
    Husb = John,45 & 8 chn on bd.  Bro = Pat Larkin at Woolloomooloo & * Ship =  Mangerton        *a brother & sisters at Parramatta (not named).
    KEATON  Mary           1855    19      Tynagh  John / Mary LARKIN  On board this ship.    7 siblings on board.     Ship =  Mangerton     

    Friday 25th Jan 2013, 07:29PM
  • Hello Christy,

    Thank you so much for the information you have sent me.  I have checked Griffiths and found the Patrick Keating in Brackery, South (Tynagh parish).  His name is grouped with William Burke and Patrick Burke (son) on the same land area, apparently. Maria Keating (my gr .gr. grandmother) married a Patrick Burke.  So, I'm starting to wonder if this is how they knew each other!  However, I have reason to believe that Patrick and Maria were married in Loughrea Parish in 1858 (info from Woodford Heritage Centre search in 1999).  I don't know if this would be conflictual with them coming from Tynagh Parish. I know it's not too far away.  What do you think about it?

    I don't know if  any of my Keating ancestors went to Australia.  I haven't heard of it but it could very well be possible.  All of Maria (Keating) + Patrick Burke's children emigrated to America.  (One of them , Michael ,came back to Loughrea c.1930 and is buried in the Abbey cemetary -died1943).

    I have read that the the PM of Australia (Keating) traced his family back to a different name in Tynagh (started with M, I think).  I also read something about his gr gr grandmother being Mary Larkin (I suppose she could very well be the one mentioned on the list you sent me!).

    I'm wondering if there's any way to get information about where people lived between the 1855 Griffith's Eval and the 1901 census.  This seems to be a problem but I'm just starting out with this.  I would like to know where my grandmother (Mary Elizabeth Burke, b. about 1874) would have spent her growing up years.  She is one of the younger children of Patrick + Maria (Keating) Burke.  I believe she was born in Loughrea.  (one searcher back in 1999 found her name in a family who lived at that time in Tullahill.)  I know when Patrick Burke re-married (in 1892), he lived in Garracloon South, near Craughwell.  But I don't know where he was living with his first family between about 1874 - 1890.  Would you have any suggestions about finding out this information?  My grandmother used to talk about walking to a small church near where she lived growing up.  So, I've started to look at where I can find small churches in the countryside near Loughrea.  I've just started and I don't know if this will help me or not!

    Thank you very much for your help.  Looking forward to hearing from you if you find anything else.

    Best regards,

    Cindy

    CMST

    Friday 25th Jan 2013, 09:32PM
  • Cindy:

    My great grandfather, John Keating was born in Loughrea, Jan 13, 1839, Parish, Tynagh.  He married Hannah Daly in Tarrytown, NY in 1870. He arrive in the US in 1864 and joined the Union Army (Civil War).Hanna's parents, were John Daly and Mary Nolan, married in - parish, church of FIRIES (Kerry RC). John's father, my 2x great grandfather, Michael Keating, who also was born around 1810 in Loughrea, married Betty Mannion (information from a baptism record).

    I have not traveled to Ireland yet to investigate, but I have reached out to Theresa Cunningham.  Since you, obviously have been doing a lot of Keating research, do you have any information that might connect to my relatives in Loughrea?  The names you've mentioned just might be relatives.

    Peter Keating

    PLKeating

    Wednesday 28th Jan 2015, 08:36PM
  • Hello Peter, Thank you for your message to me!  I had stopped looking for my Keating ancestors until a couple of weeks ago so you've written at a good time!  I will first of all tell you that I currently have a one-month subscription to rootsireland so I looked up the family names you gave me.  I found some records and here they are:

    1) Marriage of Michael Keating & Betty Mannion, May 4, 1837, in Tynagh Parish.  No address given.  Witnesses:  Michael Finnegan and Nancy Whyte.

    2) Baptism of John Keating (with parents named above), Feb 18, 1838, in Tynagh Parish.  No address.  Sponsors:  William Smith and Frances Smith.

    3) Baptism of Peter Keating (with parents named above), Oct 23, 1842, in Woodford Parish.  No address. Sponsors:  Thomas Connolly and Ellen Page.

    Your different birthdate for John Keating could because of a late reporting of birth to civil authorities.  Or for other reasons.  My grandparents changed their birth years at every U.S. census!  Woodford Parish borders Tynagh Parish on the South-west.

    My great-grandmother was Maria Keating (born 1838), Loughrea Parish.  Her parents were Patrick Keating and Mary Connolly who were married in Loughrea Parish in 1831.  However, I've been told that her Keating family came from the Tynagh area.  I think we very well could have some common ancestors but I haven't gotten any further back than this. 

    I can see that your name has a history in the family!  Best wishes!  Cindy

     

     

    CMST

    Saturday 31st Jan 2015, 09:04PM

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