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Several years ago my cousin Terry Fanning sent me two documents that were related to our great grandfather Michael Redden from Ballynakill, Clonfort, Galway, Ireland. 
The first document was the Civil Parish Marriage Registration for Michael Redden of Clonklea and Bridget Pender of Ballynakill This record was obtained from the East Galway Historical Society so it is a transcription of the document and not a copy of the original document. Recently the General Registration Office has release some of their Civil Records to an on line website for review and retrieval of these documents. Unfortunately, the Civil Marriage Registration for Michael and Bridget document was not one that was available online; you still have to request a photocopy from the GRO. Further there are no parish records available online from the Parish of Meelick, Eyrecourt and Clonfort. I did have access to a microfilm reel from the LDS Family Center in Emerson, NJ but the quality of the film was so poor I could not read one single page from the reel; Attached here is the copy Terry has sent to me.
In reviewing this document I ascertained that Michael was originally from Clonklea. From conversations that I had with a Christie Cuniff of Ballinakill (note Christie was at one time the Parish Coordinator for Meelick, Eyrecourt and Clonfort for IrelandXO and a neighbor to Margaret O’Hagan Redden wife of John Joe Redden, son of Edward (Ned) Redden) Christie did advise me that Clonklea was a local name much as Bushwick, Brooklyn is and that it was actually known as Muingbaun, Kilquain, Portumna, Galway.
During my conversations with Christie on IrelandXO I received and interesting reply from a Martina Redden. Here is here reply;
My name is Martina Redden and I have reason to believe that my great-grandfather John Redden (of Ballinakill I think she meant Clonklea) and your great-grandfather Michael Redden (of Conkelagh) may have been brothers. Both men are listed in the 1901 Census aged 32 and 40 respectively.
I was wondering if you have found any other documentary evidence to support this theory? My father Michael Anthony Redden has vague memories of visiting relations in Ballinakill as a small child. He was born in 1950. Interestingly I have a brother also named Michael Redden b. 1984 now aged 28 years. In addition my father's cousin is also named Michael Redden, who is an ordained priest and has spent most of his life living and working in Atlanta, Georgia!
We are one of the last 2 surviving Redden families still living in the area. My parents moved to Galway city in the 70's where we now live.
I hope you have found some of this information of interest.
Christie referred me to a Pat Madden who was the Parish Coordinator for IrelandXO Tiranascragh. Patrick did advise me that yes this was the right parish for the Reddens of Clonklea and that he knew a Redden descendent by the name of Annie Farrell who lived in Kill (remember this townland because it will appear further on here). Pat had promised to send me the documents that Annie Farrell had by email but I never received one response from Pat. So this point I concluded that this was possibly a dead end.
The second document Terry sent me was a Church Marriage Record from the Parish of Laurencetown, Ballinasloe, Galway. This record was also obtained from the East Galway Historical Society and once again was a transcription of the original document. Recently I did find the original document online with the National Library of Ireland. Copies of both documents are attached for your perusal.
These documents were for the marriage of Thomas Reddin and Mary Huband that occurred on the 15th of January 1842. Terry had indicated that they were Michael Redden’s parents. I had no reason to question these documents; Mary very well could have been a parishioner of Laurencetown. Traditionally all Roman Catholic weddings were held at the bride home parish.
However, the Martina Redden message was not agreeing with a Laurencetown marriage since the Reddens were from the Parish of Tiranascragh. Now in remembering several conversations that I have had over the years with Jimmy Lennon a distant relative who now lives on the lands once farmed by my Cummiskey ancestors “don’t trust everything you see from the Irish Historical Society”. Jimmy had at one time worked for the GRO in Roscommon and advised that he had come into daily contact with these people looking at documentation for their paying clients from overseas. To quote Jimmy they were at times slip-shod in what they were sending out. If a name came up in the nearby area they just assumed it was the same family and did nothing to fact check their research.
So for the last several years I could never find a baptismal record for Michael Redden from Clonklea to back up what Terry sent me. I was looking for anything from Laurencetown that would verify his parentage. Granted all of his children were registered in the Civil District of Laurencetown with the exception of Mary Bridget Redden who was born in 1891. I thought I was looking in the right place but when the Parish Registers became available for Laurencetown from the National Library of Ireland, I did not find one Redden having received their sacraments in that parish.
Recently I decide to take a different route in finding family tree connections and documents; I created a new family tree for the family of John Redden from Clonklea as was mentioned by Martina Redden. The first documents that I looked at were from the 1901 and 1911 Census of Ireland. Copies are attached here for your review and list John, his wife Mary and all of their 8 children up to 1911.
 
Residents of a house 12 in Muingbaun (Kilquain, Galway)                    
    
Surname    Forename    Age    Sex    Relation to head    Religion    Birthplace    Occupation    Literacy    Irish Language    Marital Status
Redden    John    32    Male    Head of Family    Roman Catholic    Co Galway    Farmer    Read and write    -    Married
Redden    Mary    26    Female    Wife    Roman Catholic    Kings Co    -    Read and write    -    Married
Redden    Thomas    5    Male    Son    Roman Catholic    Co Galway    Scholar    Cannot read    -    Not Married
Redden    Michael    3    Male    Son    Roman Catholic    Co Galway    -    Cannot read    -    Not Married
Redden    Mary Kate    2    Female    Daughter    Roman Catholic    Co Galway    -    Cannot read    -    Not Married

 

Residents of House 6 in Muingbaun (Kilquain, Galway)
Residents of a house 6 in Muingbaun (Kilquain, Galway)            
Show all information                            
Surname    Forename    Age    Sex    Relation to head    Religion    Birthplace    Occupation    Literacy
Redden    John    44    Male    Head of Family    Roman Catholic    Co Galway    Farmer    Read and write
Redden    Mary    37    Female    Wife    Roman Catholic    Kings County    -    Read and write
Redden    Thomas    14    Male    Son    Roman Catholic    Co Galway    Scholar    Read and write
Redden    Michael    12    Male    Son    Roman Catholic    Co Galway    Scholar    Read and write
Redden    Mary Kate    11    Female    Daughter    Roman Catholic    Co Galway    Scholar    Read and write
Redden    Annie    9    Female    Daughter    Roman Catholic    Co Galway    Scholar    Read and write
Redden    Norah    7    Female    Daughter    Roman Catholic    Co Galway    Scholar    Read and write
Redden    Ellen    6    Female    Daughter    Roman Catholic    Co Galway    -    Cannot read
Redden    Bridget Agnes    5    Female    Daughter    Roman Catholic    Co Galway    -    Cannot read
Redden    John    1    Male    Son    Roman Catholic    Co Galway    -    Cannot read

The next step I took was to find the parish registrations for Tiranascragh through the National Library of Ireland. First I found was John Redden’s Baptismal Record. John was baptized on the 27th of July 1861 his parents are listed as Thomas Reddin and Mary Maher, copy attached. Next I looked for a marriage record for his parents, Thomas Redden and Mary Maher were married in Tiranascragh on the 17th of July 1846 copy attached . 
Then I looked for John’s Wife Mary born in Kings County Ireland, now known as County Offaly. Mary Hall was born the 13th of June 1874 in Ballamacaulahon, Parsonstown Banagher, Kings Ireland, the Daughter of John Hall and Honora Larkin Copy attached. 
Then I looked at every single Civil Birth Registration for the children of John Redden and Mary Hall. Of the eight children I can account for every one of them was born in Clonklea, Eyrecourt, Portumna, Galway Ireland. I have also captured some of the children’s marriages from these records but I will not include the here,
Finally I looked for a death Record for John Redden of Clonklea and I found his death in the Townland of Kill on the 18th of May 1945 in attendance at his death was his son John Jr. of Raheen Copy attached. Now if you remember I previously asked you to pay attention to this townland before, Annie Farrell the one Redden descendent living in the Parish of Tiranascragh whom I did not receive documents from now lives in Kill. It is my best guess that John Redden was living at the home of one of his children when he died in 1945. This would mean that Annie Farrell is either his granddaughter or great granddaughter.
After putting this all in order I started looking for Michael Redden’s baptism in the Parish of Killmore and Tiranascragh at the National Library of Ireland. I found Michael Redden baptized on the 6 April 1856 his parents were Thomas Reddin and Mary Maher, which means that John and Michael are brothers and matches the comments that I received from Martina Redden. This puts the Thomas Redden and Mary Huband marriage very much in doubt. I don’t dispute what Terry sent me but based on the lack of mobility of our Irish Ancestors I would be more inclined to say that the 1846 marriage Redden/Maher is much more logical that the Reddin/Huband marriage.
I will welcome any and all responses to this question and if anyone has any reason to refute my research I am open to any new information they might have. 

 

jaeger_frederick@yahoo.com

Monday 6th Mar 2017, 09:14PM

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  • Dear Frederick:

    I wish you the best of luck with your research as both you and Martina have connected.

    Please keep us posted here as to your progress and please consider creating a profile of one of your ancestors for the XO Chronicles.

    All the best of luck and a very Happy St. Patrick's Day to you!

     

    Kind regards,

    Jane.

    Jane Halloran Ryan

    Thursday 16th Mar 2017, 08:10PM
  • Thank you Jane, Martina and I are indeed cousins and I have proviser her with a substantial amount of Information

    jaeger_frederick@yahoo.com

    Saturday 18th Mar 2017, 03:34PM
  • Dear Frederick:

     

    I'm absolutely delighted that  both of you got to connect!  Please pass on the good work of the Ireland Reaching Out project!

     

    All the best,

     

    Jane.

    Jane Halloran Ryan

    Monday 20th Mar 2017, 10:39AM

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