Searching for Morgan cousins in Connacht

Hi Art,

Here are a few ideas for your long shot.

The Irish phone book is available online at www.eircomphonebook.ie/

If you search RESIDENTIAL for Morgan in County Galway you'll get 37 matches. I suggest you copy your spiel from above and send it to all of them if you don't get a response from this site. (We have had some success with this approach).

There is a site www.rootsireland.ie/ on which you can search for Morgans births, marriages and deaths

I searched births/baptisms for James Morgan born 1800 + - 20 years in Galway and got 1 match: 1820

I went back to 1700 and searched for James Morgan every 20 years but the above was the only 1 so could he be your man? You need to purchase credit to view the full record but it SHOULD have parents' names (some don't). I checked the parish and it was Tuam R C.

The Tithe Applotments are free to search online and have 32 Morgans in Galway 1823-35

I admire your detective work with the DNA!

Col

Col,

Thanks for the suggestions!  I had not heard of the Tithe Applotments; that allows me to go a little further back than the Griffith's Valuation, which I have been using.  Both are at least 100 years after my ancestor emigrated to the American colonies, but the Morgan's who turn up there could well be descendents of my emigrant ancestor.  I will also start using rootsireland.ie, even though I hate the way it charges you for every search.

Regarding the phone book, I just wanted to ask for some clarification: I found the 37 matches that you mention, but I only see phone numbers -- no emails. Are you suggesting that it sometimes works to call people from the phone book, or is there some other contact info that I'm missing?

Thanks,

Art

Hi Art

I meant send letters to the addresses given in the phone book with your information, request & contact details

Just draught one up & fire it off to them all - who knows - you might hear an Irish accent on the end of the phone or get an email in reply. It's a hefty stamp bill but may pay off.

Col

Got it - I will try that.  It sounds like an adventure :-)

Thanks again,

Art

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Hello,

I read your message with interest. Strangely my surname is Carroll and my great grandmother's name was Mangan/Manning (used interchangeably). A Michael Morgan from a townland called Gurtyhard in Galway (possibly near Meelick, or Ahascragh in Galway) was a prisoner during 1798 here and died from his wounds. I took a particular interest in that name as the details - available in the National Archives here - fitted a family story passed on through the generations. I have been unable to prove that he is related, there being nobody alive to ask! I have had the Carroll DNA done through my brother - do you know if your DNA connection to the Carrolls is to the elycarroll subgroup? Looking forward to your reply, Deirdre Carroll, Dublin, Ireland.

Deirdre,

It's been quite awhile since I made that post and a lot has transpired since then, so I thank you for reaching out.  You bring up several points that are interesting to me, and could indicate some overlaps in our lineage.

First, I wasn't aware that Mangan and Manning were related surnames.  Can you explain about that a bit more? Where did your grandmother's relatives live, and when was the name changed?  The reason this is interesting to me as that in addition to the Manning who is a pretty close match in my STR matches, I am fairly closely related via SNP testing to a group of people who are descended from a man named John Mangum, who was an early immigrant to Virginia (see http://home.comcast.net/~lynn.parham/DNA4.htm).  The Mangum family researchers aren't sure about this yet, but my theory is that the name Mangum came from the Irish surname Mangan, or some earlier variant.  It's also interesting that Mangan, Mangum, and Morgan are all somewhat similar.

The Carrolls in my Y-DNA STR results are not genetically very close to to the Ely Carroll.  I am in a haplogroup called A19, underneath Z253, which is parallel to the Z16281 haplogroup of the Ely Carroll according to this website that I found: https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/elycarroll/about. 

However, the geographic orgins of the Ely Carroll in Ireland (which I understand to be centered in Offally and northern Tipperary) overlap quite nicely with some of the area where I think some of my Morgans may have lived.  So it's possible that my connection with Carrolls is due to what genetic genealogists call a non-paternal event, or NPE.  

I would be interested to know more about the Michael Morgan you refer to.  I am in correspondence with a Michael Morgan who lives near Nenagh, and he may be a descendant, especially if it was near Meelick, Galway.

I should also mention that research and testing since my original post indicate that the Connaught/Glenamaddy assumption was most likely incorrect.  More recent matches seem to indicate that my ancestors were mostly east of the river Shannon, likely in the area from Longford to Westmeath to Offally and northern Tipperary.

Please respond with more info when you have a chance.  If you would prefer, you can email me.  It's often useful to post things online since others may come across it and chime in, but I understand that are hard to post or better to keep private.

Art