Alexander and Margaret Long

Alan:

The Stranolar Presbyterian records go back to 1821 which is too late for baptismal records for Alexander and John. Therefore, I think it would be difficult to prove they were brothers.

Donaghmore Presbyterian records go back to 1803 for baptisms and 1820 for marriages.

Roots Ireland www.donegal.rootsireland.ie has the records for these parishes according to their index information. Roots is a pay site to see the data from a record.

Roger McDonnell

Alan,

You could order the 2 marriage certificates to see where Mary Anne & Mgt Long were both living. That?s likely to be their father Alexander?s address too. His occupation could also be a clue.

Robert Wray & Margaret Long?s marriage was registered in Stranorlar 1858 Volume 10, page 401.

John Wray and Mary Anne Long?s marriage was registered in Stranorlar 1848 Volume 10, page 396.

You can order a photocopy of the certificates from GRO Roscommon for ?4.  http://www.welfare.ie/en/Pages/Apply-for-Certificates.aspx

You have to download and print off the form. Then either post or fax it back to them. You can?t e-mail it to them. However if you want them to e-mail the cert to back to you, they will do that, so tick the relevant box.

Put the reference details on the form (anywhere). Don?t worry about leaving some boxes blank. As long as GRO have the location, name(s), year, quarter (where there is one) volume and page number they should find it.

Death registration only started in Ireland in 1864, so if Alexander Long died before that, you won?t find his death (at least not from statutory sources anyway). However there is one death registered in Stranorlar that might be worth investigating. It was for an Alexander who died Jul ? Sept 1889, Volume 2, page 229. Est year of birth 1799. (Ages were often out by up to 10 years on detach certs. All they were was the informant?s best guess).

The only Alexander Long in Donaghmore parish in Griffiths Valuation lived in Carricknamanna (which obviously ties in with the information you already have). In 1857, he is shown as having a farmhouse, outbuildings and 13 acres. Carricknamanna is a mile or so east of Ballybofey, so that fits well with John Long?s origins. 

I agree with Roger that you will strugggle to find any doucmentary evidence that Alexander & John are brothers (at leats from churhc sources), and unless you have an obituary or some other document which tells you John's townland, it may be hard to link them from other sources. There are very few documentary records for Donegal in the 1700s.

Elwyn

Thanks Elwyn for the information I will work the photocopy certificate angle and see where it leads me. Who knows I may get lucky, I've found that a lot of times luck is a good tool to have.

I am fairly certain that John Long and Margaret Roulston were from Ballybofey as their death certificate from Vermont states that, I will try to work that angle as well.

Again, thanks for your help, it is greatly appreciated!

Alan

Thanks Elwyn for the information I will work the photocopy certificate angle and see where it leads me. Who knows I may get lucky, I've found that a lot of times luck is a good tool to have.

I am fairly certain that John Long and Margaret Roulston were from Ballybofey as their death certificate from Vermont states that, I will try to work that angle as well.

Again, thanks for your help, it is greatly appreciated!

Alan

We are direct ancestors to several Long families from the area of County Donegal. We have 17 family trees in the US and Canada that DNA connect with 5 Long families in Co. Donegal. We are currently looking for Long's in the area of Donaghmore and the Killygordon area. Over the last 3 yrs we have collected many new living family members from Co Donegal that we are in contact with. Our recent area has been Ballybofey/Drumhome/Ardara for 2019. I hope Alan Long is still out there and can contact us we might be able to contact him to Ballybofey.  Regards, Alice Radcliff 

Hi Alice,

I am also seeking information on the Long, Wray, and Roulston families from Carricknamanna and Balleybofey.  Some background info:

Alexander Long (my 2x ggrandfather) (spouse unknown at this time) He was born 1799 and died 6 Aug 1889. His daughter, Mary Anne Long (b abt 1831 d aft 1911) married John Wray (b 1820 d Dec 1911) in Dec 1848 in the Presbyterian Meeting House, Donaghmore. Their marriage certificate lists Matthew Long as a witness to the marriage. Not sure of the relationship, but presume it could be her brother (?).  I have the 1901 and 1911 census records and they had 12 children. The six that remained in Ireland are Alexander, William, John James, Jemima (married Robert Kee, son of Henry Kee), Mary Anne, and Fanny Martha.  The 1911 census indicates all alive except John James.  I found a record that a John James died in service but I do not have a source that connects that John James to my family.  The six coming to U.S. were Robert Long Wray; Ellen, Margaret, Elizabeth Catherine (my grandmother); Samuel, and George Wesley.  George Wesley married Martha Adeline Long (daughter of Andrew Long).  Andrew is Margaret Roulston and John Long's son.

I would also like to know if Elizabeth Long who married my 3x ggrandfather Samuel Roulston is possibly Alexander Long's mother/aunt.  She was born abt 1770. Their son, John Roulston and his wife Elizabeth Blackburn my 2x ggrandparents are buried in the Donaghmore Buryground in Carricknamanna.  Their son, Samuel Ellis is my grandfather who married Elizabeth Catherine Wray in Vermont.

I have Long grandparents/relatives on both my father's maternal and paternal sides.  Alan Long and I have worked together on our trees from time to time. Any help will be more than appreciated.  And, if you find a connection, I have additional information on those listed above and their families should it help you. 

Regards,

Charline R Ziemba

Hi Alice, thanks for responding. Sorry it took me so long to get back with you. I am still trying to find the connection between John Long, his wife Marget Roulston and Alexander and Margaret Long. I see where your post states you have found new family members. Maybe one of them has some insight. I do speak with Charline from time to time as she is also trying to connect the dots so to speak, but haven't spoken with her in a little while, so if you sent her any information I don't have.

Thanks for any additional information you can send. I also have a personal email you can use if you like.

alamlong@hotmail.com

Thanks

Alan

Hello!

I am a descendant of the Wrays of Castlefinn, Donegal , who descended from John Wray.
My Mom's Granny was Martha Holmes Wray (1862), who emigrated to Canada and married my g-grandfather (from Co. Armagh).
Her father was William John Adams Wray (born in Co. Antrim, but returned to live in Castlefinn with his family), a well-known Justice of the Peace (and minister) in the area.
W.J.A.Wray's father was William McClintock Wray, born at the Rockfield Estate, near Castlefinn, who married Elizabeth Adams of Portglenone, Co. Antrim when he went to the area to be minister at the Presbyterian Church in Buckna, Co. Antrim (for over 30 years - there is a memorial at the Buckna Church to him!).
Wm McClintock Wray was son of John Wray, of Rockfield, near Castlefinn, and Rose McClintock, from the same area, all of the Donoughmore Parish.

In our family line, we have Roulstons, too, for sure (one of g-Granny's sisters married a Roulston).  We *might* also have Longs, although I am not looking at my papers right now and cannot recall for sure.

Our Wrays have a 'pedigree' registered at PRONI, so there is quite a lot of information available if you check there.
There are also quite a lot of records at the Donoughmore Parish (that is where I found my g-Granny's birth and baptism records).

If you'd like to know more about our family line (which could be connected to yours, as we have a few John Wrays), I can be contacted at my email:
plcourtney@gmail.com

...P. Lynne Courtney

Dear Wray, Roulston and Long families, Trying to make contact with you all. Plese contact me at abradcliff@yahoo.com. I have recenty come across information back to 1737 Donaghmore, specifically Carricknamana. Alice Radcliff