HYNDMAN Barre Beresford - where is he buried?

Ross,

There’s no requirement to keep a record of where someone is buried in Ireland, so if there’s no gravestone it can often be very difficult or impossible to locate a place of burial, especially in the 1800s. (And the vast majority of the population were buried without gravestones). 

You don’t say what denomination your Hyndman family were. The Church of Ireland does keep burial records but only for its members, so a Presbyterian buried in the Church of Ireland wouldn’t normally be recorded. (Church of Ireland graveyards are open to all denominations and many Presbyterians are buried there). Eglinton Church of Ireland burial records (parish of Faughanvale) start in 1802. There’s a copy in PRONI in Belfast.

You could try the newspapers to see if the funeral was listed. Burials in Ireland normally take place 3 days after death so try the papers for the 2 days after his death. (Copies in the Central Library, Belfast, plus some are on line eg the Belfast Newsletter is on Ancestry.

This is the only Derry Hyndman burial record from www.rootsireland.ie/:

Name:JamesHyndmanDate of Death:06-Mar-1874
Age:59Parish / District:ST. COLUMB'SAddress:Infirmary DerryCounty:Co. DerryStatus:
Denomination:Church Of Ireland

Col

Hello Elwyn,

Thanks for clarifying the no-need-to-record option for burials - I suspected that was the case (same here in NZ) but I did hope.....

As for religion,  not determined, although when he lived in Donemana/Dunnemanagh where he was a watchmaker, he appears to have been quite heavily involved as a vestryman for the Donagheady CI church.  I appreciate that doesn't prove anything, but it might be a guidance.

A very kind lady has visited the St Canice graveyard in Eglinton, where his brother Henry (& family) has a gravestone (she's sent me a photo of this), but she could find no sign of Barre.

His death notice in the Londonderry Journal of 5 April 1876 is just that - date and location of death with no indication of when a funeral might be nor where he might have been buried.  I suspect we may never know.....

More details, sparse as they are currently, are up at http://www.quidnunc.co.nz/family/HYNDMAN_Barre_Beresford.html 

I presume he was actually buried even if no headstone, and if buried, then wouldn't there have been a record (even if regrettably it doesn't exist today)?

Many thanks from a chilly <brrr> Auckland
Ross

Hello Col,

I don't think that particular James HYNDMAN is directly related to Barre, although he might be a distant rellie.  Hard to tell.

There are a couple of "James" in the family that I know of, but with differing dates to that which you mentioned and not from St Columb.   But you never know !

Ross

Ross,

If Barre was a vestryman then I’d say it’s fairly safe to assume he was Churhc of Ireland. That’s quite good because they are the only denomination that does regularly keep burial records – though not all burials seem to be recorded in most of the records I have looked at.

Have you checked the records for Donnemana (parish of Donagheady) and Faughanvale? Both have burial records for 1876. There are copies of both held in PRONI in Belfast. You would need to get someone to look them up for you.

Thanks Elwyn,

That's a good idea and I have now emailed a contact near Belfast to see if they might be able to pop in, on my behalf.

Cheers

Ross

Hello Elwyn,

We found Jane HYNDMAN (nee LIGHTON)'s burial record at PRONI, but no sign of Barre in Donagheady.  I've asked if the Faughanvale or Tamlaght-Finagan burial records were by any chance checked.  Haven't heard yet.

As for Jane, we have her burial record but no indication (not that I can identify) of which graveyard she may have been buried in.  In the attached, you'll see it is in the Donagheady parish in 1876.  but where?  Now that's the question.

Anyway, no sign of Jane's burial anywhere, not in the Grange graveyard (GPS: 54.9032, -7.4240) nor in the old Donagheady graveyard (GPS: 54.8862, -7.2929) nor the "middle" Donagheady graveyard (GPS: 54.8790, -7.2992).  The current church wasn't in existence in 1876.   So no record found, although possibly she may be there somewhere.

Cheers
Ross

I meant to add - I can't read the Rector's name.  Are you able to help?
Ross

Ross,

Rev Frederick James Clarke was the Rector. (He was later Canon at Derry Cathedral).