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aileenbarton

Monday 2nd Feb 2015, 09:50PM

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  • Need some more details if we are to help you. Armstrong is a very common name in Ulster.

    Ahoghill Antrim

    Monday 2nd Feb 2015, 11:53PM
  • I'm looking for the family Armstrong from carnamuff/tirkeerin/faughanvail limavaday Londonderry.

    Hugh Armstrong born in 1808 died 1878 - I have no certificates for this. hugh married jane rea - no info either.

    found some family in Glasgow and two daughters, Maryanne & Elisabeth in the limavaday workhouse.

    My great great grandfather archiebald son of hugh was a hatmaker and I found him in Glasgow. tracing irish decent and need any help you have to offer,

    Many thanks

    Aileen Barton

    aileenbarton

    Sunday 8th Feb 2015, 04:50PM
  • Aileen,

    Griffiths Valuation for 1858 lists several Armstrong households in Carnamuff. A John Armstrong had a weaver or agricultural labourers cottage there on plot 1b which was on Henry Hyndman?s farm. Nearby was Thomas Armstrong on plot 3d on William Morrison?s farm. Hugh Armstrong was nearby on plot 4e (house an garden of 1 rood  &10 perches) which was on James Hyndman?s farm. Today that?s on the modern Carnamuff Rd, off the A2, west of Limavady.

    http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=nameSearch

    Hugh Armstrong appears to have vacated that property in 1864, according to the revision records. There?s a death registered in Limavady on 24.1.1877 for a man aged 70. That might be your Hugh.

    You can view the certificates on-line on the GRONI website, using the ?search registrations? option:

    https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk

    (You will need to open an account and buy some credits. It costs ?2 to a view a certificate).

    Were your family RC? I see a Hugh Armstrong listed in the 1831 census in Carnamuff at which time there were 3 people in the household, 2 male and 1 female. All RC. If the family were RC and married in Faughanvale, then the bad news is that that parish only has baptism records from 1863 onwards and marriages from 1860. So since Hugh & Jane?s marriage and children presumably long pre-date this, you may not be able to trace them that way.

     

     

    Elwyn

    Ahoghill Antrim

    Sunday 8th Feb 2015, 06:11PM
  • my goodness.thats great news.thank you,wonder where he went from there,what records would groni have if any.this is what I have on this family,my gr granddad Archibald born 1844,found him in Glasgow married Elizabeth Thomson.a james born 1834/1836 found him in Glasgow,married ann barr.archibald is a hatter makes tall lum hats.james a labourer,as far as I know archie left his family to go to usa around 1881 and becomes a fireman on a ship or a stoker,according to my paper work I have .ie his marriage cert also found a sister Elizabeth In, the poor house in Glasgow she states that she lived in carnamuff all her life,born in 1842,she has several little girl babies who are born and die in the poor house alice she lives ,Elizabeth dies 18 months poor house,jane died 1871.she is then found in the work house in limavady along with a sister Maryanne some say rc or protestant so I don't know what religion but I think mainly rc.thomas and a john I wonder if they are other members of this family.any more info would be great ie where else can I look if there is no records,.

    aileenbarton

    Sunday 8th Feb 2015, 10:21PM
  • I would start by getting the death certificate to make sure it?s the right person. It will also tell you whether Hugh?s wife was alive at that date, so you then have an idea of when to search for her death. His address on the death certificate may also enable me to find out where he went to after leaving Carnamuff. (There were several cottages on the Hyndman farm. All were vacated at the same time and no-one appears to have taken them over, so possibly there were not in very good condition). Hugh probably moved to another townland nearby but without an idea of where that was, it would involve a fair bit of searching.

    If Elizabeth was in the poor house in Limavady, then there may well be records of her admission and departure. Those records are kept in PRONI (the public record office) in Belfast. They are not on-line and so you either need to pay PRONI to search for them or go in person and search yourself (which is free). They should record the family denomination. It?s probably worth exploring because if the family were not RC, then there may be earlier church records. But as I say, the 1831 census suggests they were RC.

    Apart from the 1831 census for Derry, and a few fragments, there are no pre 1901 censuses in Ireland. That combined with the lack of church records makes research very difficult. Most Irish research comes to a stop in the early 1800s due to lack of records.

    Ahoghill Antrim

    Monday 9th Feb 2015, 08:42AM
  • thank you so much for your info,much appreciated.can l ask where I would obtain hughs death certificate,have tried several times to get info of this sort with no luck,and would I get this on ancestry . com thanks

    aileenbarton

    Monday 9th Feb 2015, 09:16PM
  • If you look at my post of 8th Feb it tells you where to get Hugh?s death cert ? GRONI. You can view the death cert on-line for ?2 or order a paper copy for ?15. Either way it?s the same certificate.

    Ahoghill Antrim

    Wednesday 11th Feb 2015, 03:37PM

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