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Hi all,

Looking to see if there is any connection between 2 families of McMahon's in Cappagh, Affick, Newgrove, Tulla in the 1901 Census.

Family #1: John McMahon, b. 1837, Daughter Mary McGrath, Son in law Pat McGrath & Minnie McMahon. John McMahon originally was from Core, Feakle, siblings, Timothy, Daniel, James, Bridget. Timothy was my g grandfather. Nothing too exciting here.

Family#2: John McMahon, b. 1845, Wife Bridget, children, Timothy, Denis, Kate, Lawrence, John, Daniel & James.

What grabbed my attention initially was the similarity between the childrens names in this family and the five children in my g grandfathers family. (Timothy, John, James, Daniel)

In the Tithe Applotment books for Tulla there are no McMahon's listed in Affick. Come the Griffith Valuation in 1855 there is one listed, Micheal McMahon. Comparing the Tithe & Griffith Valuation information and maps it appears that Micheal McMahon's land either borders or is part of the area known as Cappagh. It would be fair to assume that this Micheal McMahon is the father of John McMahon from Family#2.

To add to this my g grandfather Timothy and the John McMahon from Family#1 had an uncle Micheal McMahon that was from Core, Feakle. I have no record of him after a dispute over inheritance of land in Core with my gg grandfather Thomas McMahon in 1845.

I know it may all be a coincidence but is it possible the this Micheal McMahon from Core married into a family from Affick in 1840/50's had a son John (Family#2) and is an uncle of John (Family#1)

Looking at the roll books for Knockjames School it looks as as if both families went to school there, as did the next generation of both families. Are there marriage/baptism records available for Knochjames church and if so how far back do they go?

Any thought on connections or origins of Family#2 would be appreciated.

Regards,
Noel McMahon

 

Tuesday 11th Jun 2013, 11:20AM

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  • Dear Noel:

     

    Many thanks for your query.  Yes, there is a lot of information available with regard to the McMahon family in Affick.  My husband and I own the farm in that townland and are familiar with the history.

     

    I will go into the parish priest for you and find out what I can with regard to BMD for the Mcmahons.  If you bear with me for a week or so, I will get back to you. 

     

    If you want to contact me further through Reaching Out, you can email me at:  tulla@irelandxo.com.

     

    Many thanks for your interest in Reaching Out.  Please make sure to join the Tulla parish webpage!

     

    Kind regards,

     

    jane.

    Tulla Clare, IrelandXO Volunteer

    Wednesday 12th Jun 2013, 01:12PM
  • Dear Noel:

     

    I have found some information for you, but I'm not sure that it answers any questions (yet).

    The John McMahon b. 1845 that you referred to married Bridget Maher.  I don't see a marriage date in Tulla, so I assume that they married elsewhere.  (There are gaps in the Tulla register). 

     

    Their children are as follows:

    1.  Bridget 31/10/1866

    2. John 6/4/1868

    3.Michael 28/3/1870

    4.Mary 26/12/1871

    5.Matthew 25/6/1874

    6.Patrick 13/3/1876

    7.Margaret 18/2/1878

    8.Timothy 31/1/1880

    9.Denis 9/9/1882

    10.Kate 11/10/1884 (Catherine)

    11.Lawrence 9/5/1887 (Larry)

    12.John 9/4/1889

    13.Daniel 6/6/1891

    14.Jane 29/11/1893

     

    There does not appear to be any James.  You will note 2 sons named John.  The first john may have died.

    Mary McMahon (4) married Pat McGrath in Tulla on 14/7/1900.  They should be listed in the 1901 Census and possibly the 1911 Census. 

    There was a Maher family living in Cappagh, and it may be that John married into it and moved into the land. 

     

    The best of luck on your research.

     

    Kind regards,

     

    Jane.

    Tulla Clare, IrelandXO Volunteer

    Friday 21st Jun 2013, 07:14PM
  • Thanks for your help Jane. At least the Maher family is a new bit of information. I'm pretty sure that the Mary McMahon that married Pat McGrath is from the other John McMahon born 1837 family, going by the census records. Ill keep digging and see what I can come up with. The origins of Michael McMahon in the 1855 Griffith Valuation is the key to a connection between the two families but we might find it difficult to confirm that. 

    Im getting married myself today so ill have to take a break for a few days!! Thanks again for your help. 

     

    Regards,

    Noel. 

    Saturday 22nd Jun 2013, 07:48AM
  • Thought I might revisit this question of a connection between these 2 McMahon famalies in Cappa.

    I've found out recently that John McMahon b. 1837 married a Mary O'Malley (or Malley) There does not seem to be any O'Malleys listed in the Griffith Valuation for Affick so it is still questionable how John ended up living here?

    Is it true that the Tulla parish records go back to 1819? If so might there be a baptism record for John McMahon b. 1845? If so it would be interesting to see if his father is listed as the Michael McMahon from the Griffith Valuation in Affick. Following on from that there may be baptism record for John McMahons brothers and sisters and possibly Michael McMahons marriage assuming he married in Tulla.

    Any thoughts or coments would be great.

    Cheers,
    Noel.

    Wednesday 23rd Oct 2013, 01:14PM
  • Dear Noel:

     

    Yes, the records do go back to 1819, however there are gaps, particularly in the 1840s.  I will have a look for you next week and let you know what I find out.  

     

    There were O'Malleys in Glendree which is not far from Affick.  That might be a connection.  However, it is speculative.  

     

    Nice to hear from you.

     

    Kind regards,

     

    Jane

    Tulla Clare, IrelandXO Volunteer

    Wednesday 23rd Oct 2013, 06:05PM

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