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I am a member of the McMurties in Australia and we are part of Clan Family 213.

The original member of this clan that we are most confident about (DNA results) is James McMurtrey who was born in 1806, arrived in Australia in 1851, and died in Lethbridge, Victoria in 1866.

Any information regarding his ancestors would be like gold to us.

Warm Regards,

Norm

NormanJohn

Saturday 7th Nov 2015, 10:55PM

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  • Hi Norm

    No gold I'm afraid

    I could not find a birth/baptism for James or any other first name & surname McMurtrey + surname variants on www.rootsireland.ie/ in any county

    PRONI name search (free at http://apps.proni.gov.uk/) has 6 McMurtreys including John & Thomas in Comber Down in the 1775 Dissenters Petition

    There are none in the early Irish Censuses or the Tithe Applotments

    Griffiths Valuation has 5 - all in Londonderry in 1859

    No luck on ancestry or findmypast.ie either.

    I assume you've seen the ones on Family Search (free at https://familysearch.org/) from Carrickergus

    I assume you've seen this too:

    The earliest record of McMurtrys in Ireland is the 1630 Muster Roll for North Antrim.  We find two John McMurterys, a Thomas McMourtry and a Gillaspy McMyrirty all in  Dunluce listed as the Earl of Antrim’s British Tenants.  In 1620 James I created Randall MacDonnell the 1st Earl of Antrim and this Scottish Catholic peer proceeded to populate his Antrim lands in Dunluce with Scottish Highlanders and Lowlanders.  Interestingly, Alexander McMoretery is listed in Cary as one of the Earl of Antrim's British Tenants on his Native lands set aside for Highlanders.

    In 1637 John McMurtry leased some land in Co. Antrim for 20 years.  A generation later, in 1667, an Archibald McMurthy is mentioned in a Co. Antrim deed.  In 1669, the Hearth Money Roll Index lists a John McMurtrey in the Scotch Quarter of Carrickfergus and a Gilbert McMurtry in Ballypollard. 

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    ColCaff, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Sunday 8th Nov 2015, 03:26AM
  • Col,

    Thanks for your efforts but I dont seem to be any closer. Have managed to track all branches of the family since their arrival in Australia, but no luck going the other way.

     

    Warm Regards,

     

    Norm

    NormanJohn

    Tuesday 22nd Dec 2015, 07:51AM
  • NormanJohn

    Tuesday 22nd Mar 2016, 11:23PM
  • I have some new information that may lead down some different roads.

    The family travelled to Australia on the barque SULTANA which left Plymouth on 6th April 1850 and arrived at Port Adelaide on 25th July of the same year.

    The passenger list shows a family of six under the surname of McMurty. The members, and ages were: James (37), Margaret nee Moore(MUIR) (36), John (16), James (14), Thomas (11), and Jenny (infant).

    Other indicators put James senior as being born in 1806 putting him at 44yrs during the trip. He possibly dropped his age to pay a lesser payment towards his passage as persons aged between 14 and 40 made a payment of 2 pounds, while the over 40s paid 6 pounds.

    The family disembarked at Port Adelaide and immediately walked the 500kms to Culgoa in Victoria.

    Any information on how they would have made the journey from Antrim to Plymouth etc. would be appreciated.

    Warm Regards,

    Norman McMurtrie

    NormanJohn

    Tuesday 22nd Mar 2016, 11:39PM

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