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I am researching family history for a friend, His great grandmother was Elizabeth Griffiths ( Lizzie) she died in a place called Law, Carluke, Scotland in 1919, aged 49yrs. She married James MacAulay in Manchester in August 1892. They had a son,  he was named James Richard Galway MacAulay

On her death certificate her parents were both deceased Peter Griffiths (farm labourer) and Rebecca Griffiths.

I am hoping that my friends Grandfather with the middle name "Galway" great grandmother or GG Grandfather came from Galway.

Kind Regards,

George Curran

 

George Curran

Monday 31st May 2021, 02:09AM

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  • George,

    The family looks to have been living in Co. Cavan. Here’s Peter’s death in Tullyroane, Cavan in 1898. The informant was son in law James MacAulay of Killoughter.

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_retu…;

    I think that after Peter’s death Rebecca moved to Scotland to be with her daughter and son in law. She died in Law on 11.11.1901 aged 66. Lizzie was the informant. Rebecca’s parents names are not on her death certificate (the section has a blank line drawn through it), indicating Lizzie didn’t know who they were. So possibly Rebecca was an orphan or adopted. Her origins may be hard to trace.

    Macaulay family are in the 1901 Scottish census Carluke district, 629/4/43. Parents plus 3 children (William, Richard & James). Rebecca doesn’t appear to have been there though.

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Monday 31st May 2021, 10:54AM
  • Hi George, A transcription on Roots Ireland shows a Peter Griffith 27 of Derryheen and Rebecca Daly 34, a widow, of Drumcalpin, married in Anna, Cavan on 18-May-1857. They married in the Church of Ireland. Rebecca's father was Richard Galway; thus, her maiden name was Galway. Peter's father was Lewis. I hope this is helpful.

    Patricia

    Monday 31st May 2021, 10:33PM
  • Patricia,

    Many thanks for your help

    What a wonderful service you provide, it is first class

    Kind Regards,

    George Curran

     

     

     

     

    George Curran

    Monday 31st May 2021, 11:11PM
  • Elwyn,

    Many thanks for your help

    What a wonderful service you provide, it is first class

    Kind Regards

    George Curran

    George Curran

    Monday 31st May 2021, 11:19PM
  • Good Morning,

    I am looking for your help once again.

    Elizabeth Griffiths ( Lizzie) she died in Law, Carluke, Scotland in 1919, aged 49yrs. Can you tell me where and when she was born ? If it was Ireland how I would go about getting her birth certificate.

    Kind Regards,

    George Curran

     

     

     

     

     

     

    George Curran

    Sunday 6th Jun 2021, 08:08AM
  • You are welcome, George.
    Roots Ireland has a transcription of a baptism for Elizabeth, born on 29-May-1859
    and baptized 14-Sep-1859. She had a brother, Richard, bap. 1860, and Bessie, 1862.
    Since Bessie is generally a nickname for Elizabeth, it is possible the Eliz. born in 1859 died.

    Patricia

    Monday 7th Jun 2021, 08:49PM
  • George,

    Adding to Patricia's reply, if Elizabeth was born before 1864, you won't get a birth certificate as they hadn't been introduced in Ireland. The church baptism will be the only record.

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Monday 14th Jun 2021, 08:07AM
  • Elwyn,

    The information I had was that Lizzie died in 1919 aged 49yrs old, this doesnt tie up with the information provided. Do you know where she was born ?

    Many thanks for your help

    Regards,

    George

     

     

     

    George Curran

    Sunday 27th Jun 2021, 11:51PM
  • Eliza and Bessie were born in Drumcarplin townland, parish of Anna, Co. Cavan, as per transcription of baptismal records on RootsIreland.

    Patricia

    Monday 28th Jun 2021, 02:55PM
  • George,

    The information on death (and other) certificates is only as accurate as the informant’s knowledge. No documentation is required when registering events (and in many cases couldn’t be produced even if it was).  When officialdom asked for an age or a date of birth it was common just to guess.  I suspect therefore that the age on Lizzie's death certificate is wrong.  She was evidently living in Britain by 1892. Have a look at the ages she gave in the 1901 & 1911 censuses (and the 1891 if she was there then).  See how they tie in.

    I searched the statutory birth records for the area around Annagh 1864 – 1874 (Cavan regn area) but did not find any birth that fits. I think Patricia has found the right birth ie Bessie in 1862. In which case there’s no birth certificate to obtain. If you want some documentation, you could ask the church for a copy of the baptism, or you could get a copy from PRONI from their set of records. (Not sure which would be cheaper). Family look to have been Church of Ireland. All the Griffith(s) in Co Cavan in 1901 were COI.

    Contact for Annagh Church of Ireland: Rev Tanya Woods - Incumbent

    Cornacrea
    Cavan
    Co Cavan

    086 0602450

     

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Monday 28th Jun 2021, 09:32PM
  • Elwyn and Patricia,

    Many thanks again for the wonderful service you provide.

    George

     

     

    George Curran

    Wednesday 30th Jun 2021, 03:42AM

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