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Greetings from New York!

A DNA connection takes me to this parish in chasing my LYNCH-MARTIN ancestors.  I was told that a LYNCH from CLONBUR married LOFTUSES (?).  Do not know what year- but guess around 1840s.........

What I know is that my paternal g-g-grandmother, Julia Martin (b. Ireland 1828-d. NYC 1883), had a son named John Joseph Lynch (1860-1936) in New York.  His death record states his father was John Joseph Lynch, born in Ireland.  Family lore is that the father was a sea captain, and was "lost at sea".   So, have not found any records for his US immigration or marriage in USA.  Heck, have not found a birth/baptismal record for the Civil War birth of their son.....

SO, guess I am looking for whatever information might be available in Clonbur records for perhaps a marriage of Julia and John (1850-1859); or their birth/baptismal records (1828 era).........

The LOFTUSES surname comes from the DNA connection to John Lynch........is that a misspelling?

THANK YOU!!!

Ann Marie Bridget Lynch
 

Ann Marie

Wednesday 2nd Sep 2020, 01:53PM

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  • Ann Marie:

    Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out!

    The surname would be Loftus.

    Unfortunately, the RC records for Clonbur parish do not begin until 1853. I did search the subscription site Roots Ireland but did not find a Loftus/Lynch marriage in West Galway.

    You may want to add Julia Martin Lynch to our XO Chronicles site  https://irelandxo.com/ireland-xo/history-and-genealogy/ancestor-database

    Roger McDonnell

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Wednesday 2nd Sep 2020, 03:06PM
  • In case you're interested, the Lynch and Loftus surnames are widespread in Connacht, especially in Galway and Mayo.

    The Lynches in Galway were one of the best known of the "Tribes of Galway".  They descend from a Norman family named de Lench,  Like many Normans, they became Gaelicized over years of intermarriage with the:"native" Irish.  There were several "native" septs (or tribes) named Ó Loingsigh (sometimes Ó Loincsigh), and that Irish form of the name was adopted by the Normans as well, but Lynch became the most common anglicized form, along with Linchy, and Linskey/Lynskey (especially in Mayo).

    The Loftus surname originated in western Mayo, although it spread elsewhere.  There was/is an English family named Loftus, a few of whom did make it to Ireland, but most Irish people with the surname Loftus (still found principally in Mayo) originated as O’Loughnane's, from the Irish surname Ó Lachtnáin.  Lachtnáin comes from an old word for the color grey, lachtna (in modern Irish, grey is liath), so it probably meant something like “descendant of the grey haired fellow” (the “Ó” part of the name means essentially “descendant”).  As English-speakers took control in an area, many names were translated (often poorly) or converted to something easier for English speakers to spell or say, or were changed to an English name that sounded similar or had prestige.  The change from O’Loughnane to Loftus is believed to be an example of a prestige name being used, although some O’Loughnane's ended up with the surname Grey, as a result of translation (and some stayed as O'Loughnane).  Exactly when the changes took place is apparently unclear from the historical records.

    kevin45sfl

    Wednesday 2nd Sep 2020, 07:18PM
  • Thank you, Roger and Kevin!
    Have sent photo and what info I have about Julia Martin Lynch to the site CHRONICLES.  Will keep searching- and have shared the surname history with DNA connections from two continents!
    Best wishes for good health,

    Ann Marie

    Ann Marie

    Friday 4th Sep 2020, 01:47AM
  • No actual help but I have found the Lynch family is hard to trace seeing as they where everywhere.
    My G-G Grandfather is from County Cork.
    Also have Lynch family from Tullig and Tralee, County Kerry.

    Albert Lynch

    Monday 1st Mar 2021, 04:05PM
  • Thank you, Albert, for your information.  I had hoped that DNA would provide a connection.  Since using DNA for this kind of search is in it's infancy, I guess I must be patient and just keep looking!

    The complication for my family is the same first names (John, Joseph) were passed along the generations that I KNOW.  On one immigrant ship, there were 15 John Lynch's aged 18-21!  Tracing folks on those immigrant ships (Ireland to US and Canad) around 1840s must be an art!  

     Julia Martin Lynch is the only MARTIN name in the family.  Have found a connection due to a baby sharing a NYC grave (from a different MARTIN parentage).  Just not sure of the connection between Martin and Lynch- cannot find marriage in NY/and not in Ireland.  I often wonder if the MARTIN family adopted John Lynch.......

    Thanks for mentioning two more counties to check- Cork and Kerry.  

    Happy hunting- Be well!

     

    Ann Marie Lynch  

    Ann Marie

    Tuesday 2nd Mar 2021, 01:25PM

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