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I found the Civil Death for a child AGNES TOOLE in Annaghvane (and variants) 28 Mar 1883, age 2 weeks.  But, as you know, I cannot confirm this may be an ancestor without seeing both parents which is included in the Civil record.  I didn't see a church record either.  Can anyone see the birth record for Agnes perhaps that I cannot see?  Thank you. 

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_retu…

KLKapaun

Thursday 15th Feb 2024, 08:12PM

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  • Good afternoon,

    Annaghvaan is located in County Galway, Civil Parish-Killannin, Poor Law Union-Oughterard, and Registrar's District-Lettermore.  After searching, I cannot find the death record.  FamilySearch has these records located off-site and the records cannot be searched online.  Irishgenealogy.ie will allow you to pay for a copy of the record, rather than just the abstract.  The cost is 5 euros, but unfortunately I do not know what the civil record includes.  

    If you are close to a Family History Center, the film can be ordered.

    Agnes Toole FLH Film #

    Let me know if I can be of any further assistance.

    Marsha

    Marsha, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘︎

    Thursday 15th Feb 2024, 10:59PM
  • Hello,

    The death record for Agnes notes that her father was John Toole, so there's the name of one of her parents.

    There is probably no birth record because the parents had not registered the child's birth--and then she died at two weeks of age.

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    Patricia

    Friday 16th Feb 2024, 12:20AM
  • John was a Landholder.  Looking at 1883, in the area, one Births stands out, born the 1st March 1883 

    The deaths states 
    Annaghvaan Townland, Co. Galway (townlands.ie)

    The birth states
    Lettermullan, County Galway, Ireland - Bing Maps

    She was registered as Barbara. She was the only girl born that year. She would have been 4 weeks at death.
    2008701.pdf (irishgenealogy.ie)

    I did check for Agnes births, no results. Must be her. 

    Margot

    Margot

    Friday 16th Feb 2024, 11:21AM
  • Have you thought about trying variations of the name or searching in neighboring areas?

    webodoctor

    Friday 16th Feb 2024, 07:59PM
  •  

    Just to expand a bit on what I wrote earlier.  In 1883, parents would have had to register a child's birth within a certain time period.  If they missed the deadline, they sometimes lied about the date of the child's birth.  In the case of Agnes, because no one has located a birth registration for her, it is likely that when she died at the age of 2 weeks, her birth had not yet been registered. Her death was registered, and that is likely all that was done.

    Patricia

    Friday 16th Feb 2024, 09:54PM

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