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I have recently begun tracing my family tree. On the civil registration of my great gf John Mullane’s marriage to Bridget Foley on the 11 October 1881, his “condition” is listed as a widower. This prompted me to search for a previous wife and I have located a marriage between himself and Margaret Sullivan on February 29th 1876. I found the record of her baptism on 27th March 1853. They went on to have 2 children , Daniel Mullane registered on 1st April 1878 & Michael 10th September 1879. Sadly, Michael died the following year - 14th December 1880 (I can’t decipher the handwriting on the cause of death - screenshot attached). I can’t find a civil registration of the death of Margaret (Sullivan) Mullane. I’m wondering if any one would have time to check my “calculations”?

Is it possible that she died from whatever resulted in Baby Michael’s death? I know I shouldn’t speculate but I’m really at a loss. 

If he died in December would it have been too soon for his father to remarry the following October?

I’d be grateful if any of the experts on here have any thoughts/suggestions. Am I on the right track or am I gone totally wrong? 

Many thanks in advance. 

Elaine Mc. 

Ps - copies of the various registrations attached. 

Elainemccarthy

Friday 10th Mar 2023, 10:30PM

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  • Michael died at age 1 of "diarreah, 4 mos., certified." Certified means there was a doctor in attendance.

    Patricia

    Friday 10th Mar 2023, 10:47PM
  • Note that the child Michael's 1880 death was registered by Margaret Mullane.

    Patricia

    Friday 10th Mar 2023, 10:49PM
  • Elaine,

    John who married Bridget Foley was a farmer.  The records of the earlier marriage/family of a John Mullane indicated residence in the city of Cork.  I doubt very much that the two Johns are the same person.

    I hope this helps.

    Patricia

    Friday 10th Mar 2023, 11:12PM
  • In Griffith's Valuation of Cork in 1853, the following Daniel Mullanes were listed as heads of household in the townland of Toreen:

     

    MullaneDaniel Tooreen,north  MourneabbeyCo. Cork

    \MullaneDaniel Tooreen,north  MourneabbeyCo. Cork

    \MullaneDaniel Tooreen South MourneabbeyCo. Cork

     

    source: RootsIreland

    Patricia

    Saturday 11th Mar 2023, 12:32AM
  • Hi Patricia,

    Thanks for your replies. 
     

    John’s address on both marriages is Toureen (Mourneabbey) and his occupation on both is farmer & his fathers name on both is Daniel. 

    The registration of the births of their 2 sons in Hodders Lane both give the mothers maiden name as Sullivan, 2 and 3 years respectively after the marriage of John Mullane to Margaret Sullivan. Is it not too much of a coincidence to be 2 different John’s? Would it be possible they moved to the city for accommodation and employment - it’s just 16 miles away from Mourneabbey. You could be correct, Mullane was the most common name in Mourneabbey at the time but the fact that he married Margaret Sullivan and the mother of the boys was formerly Sullivan could they be the same couple? 
     

    Elaine. 

    Elainemccarthy

    Saturday 11th Mar 2023, 05:10PM
  • Elaine,

    Your John Mullane married Bridget Foley. He was a farmer from Tooreen, Mourneabbey.  He was also a widower.

    You tried to find an earlier marriage and found a John Mullane married to Margaret Sullivan. They had two children.  This couple lived in Cork City.

    You asked was it too much of a coincidence for there to be two different Johns.  I don't believe so. RootsIreland lists baptisms for 212 boys in Co. Cork named John Mullane, so it was not an unusual name.

    Yes, it's possible that your John went to Cork City to work, but I tend to doubt it.  He was a farmer and had land to tend to and probably animals to raise. Plus travel would likely have been by ass-and-cart, so a trip to the city was not easy.

    Did you look at the 1901 and 1911 Irish censuses online to see if you can find the various Mullanes?

    Good luck.

    Patricia

    Sunday 12th Mar 2023, 03:35PM
  • Hi Patricia,

    I have John and Bridget and their family on the 1901 & the 1911 census. I hadn’t thought of looking for John and Margaret, I’ll do that tonight and let you know how I get on. 
     

    Thanks for your help. 
     

    Elaine. 

    Elainemccarthy

    Monday 13th Mar 2023, 02:35PM

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