Hamilton & Taylor from Newtownards, Down

Hi Hattie,

here is the original 1901 census record - http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Newtownards/Movil…

here is John and Martha Jane's marriage record -  https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_re…

Roberts birth record 1890 - https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_retur…

Jim,

Jim, Thank you so much, from these three outstanding documents, they are greatly appreciated.  From them I was able to cull the names of the fathers for Mary Jane (James Taylor, shoemaker in Killarn) an John (James Hamilton, labourer in Movilla), as well as their marriage date.

Are there records I may access, as I'd like to learn the vitals on these two men and their spouses (birth, marriage, death).  Your guidance would be greatly appreciated.

As always, IrelandXO is a real goldmine (and I'm from California where there used to be lots of them ;-) ).  Not only do you find treasures, but you do it so quickly!

Best regards, Harriet/Hattie

Hi Hattie!  My husband's great grandfather, Hugh Hamilton, was born/baptised/married in Newtonards; I can't imagine your John Hamilton is not, at least, a cousin of Hugh's.  Hugh also left Ireland, in 1916, settling in Maine.  I would love to talk further about this.  We are headed to Ireland in May of 2019, and I am gathering family info ahead of that.

Hi ~ Sorry I don't know your name!

I'd like very much to pursue this possible connection ... and there isn't much I know at this time.  We'd certainly appreciate any unraveling you might achieve on this family.  A Y-37 DNA test has confirmed relationship to the Hamilton lineage.

We know John Hamilton (1851-aft 1916) married Martha Jane Taylor in 1875, they lived in Movilla around 1890, and they emigrated to Calgary Alberta, Canada about 1908, we can trace lineage down from there.  John was the son of James and an unknown mother, we know nothing more of them or their families than IrelandXO has provided.  If you follow the links higher in this post, you can see the documents with this information; IrelandXO may be able to help us better understand the larger family!

Best regards, Hattie

BTW, to the descendants of Hugh Hamilton - I didn't see your post until 2Nov18, I apologize!  Please feel free to contact me direct through my genalogy email address (harrietgirdley@gmail.com).  Perhaps we can share trees or collaborate on the Hamilton line.  Best, Hattie

BTW, to the descendants of Hugh Hamilton - I didn't see your post until 2Nov18, I apologize!  Please feel free to contact me direct through my genalogy email address (harrietgirdley@gmail.com).  Perhaps we can share trees or collaborate on the Hamilton line.  Best, Hattie

Based on the FTDNA results, my liine of Hamiltons are realted. We were 3 markers off of the 64 marker level. I begin my line with a Robert Hamilton, age unknown but probably unmarried, paying taxes in Willkes Co. Ga, USA in 1785, He is living among folks, many of whom came to Georgia from Virginia after the Rev. War. He had a large family and died, testate, in 1810 in Morgan Co. Ga., leaving sons named James, John, Peter,William, Robert and Moses. His daughters were named Frances, Betsy (Elizabeth), Polly (Mary). and Anne.

There is a provocative record in Richmond Co. (Augusta), GA. in 1805, reported by the DAR, linking James Hamilton of Richmond Co. to Robert Hamilton of Wilkes Co. Both are appointed administrators of the estate of John Pierce, "dec'd. merchant of Augusta, 15 Jan 1805".[1].I do not know if Robert and James are related.

James Hamilton died in Columbia Co. Ga. in 1817. His will directed his brother, Alexander of Ohio to sell James' 1000 acres of land in Ohio and send the proceeds to his brother and sister in "the Kingdom of Ireland".

[1] Historical Collection Georgia DAR, Vol II, Davidson, P. 116

Glennham, Since there is a shared DNA link - it appears to me that it must be somewhere in Ireland prior to 1800s:

1. Your earliest ancestor Robert Hamilton was living in Georgia in 1785, whereas our earliest ancestor John Hamilton was born in 1851 in Newtonards, Down (documents available earlier in thread) ~ we know his father was James Hamilton but have no details.
2. Our Hamilton line emigrated to Canada in 1908 and his son emigrated to California before the 1940 census.

I gather you have no record back to Ireland and I have no real knowledge prior to the 1875 marriage certificate of John Hamilton.  Perhaps by posting this on the Message Board, someone will "pop out of the woodwork" with a connection or information ... I also look forward to meeting others from this line!  BTW, my email address is above.

Regards, Hattie

“Leave no stone unturned”  is a good genealogical guide. Your John would be of my great grandfather’s generation. A common grand parent would have to be at least three generations earlier, to be the parent of my Robert, most likely. We have a ways to go.

Hello IrelandXO Researchers!!

First, you have been so exceptionally helpful, I am hoping you can help me take this line further back in time.  I'd like to know more about the persons #1 and #2, and their parentage - though I only know their fathers' names.  I do have the 3 documents you previous provided: 1875 Marriage registration, 1890 Birth registration, 1901 Census.

1) John Hamilton (Jul 1841 Co. Antrim ~ 26 Dec 1912 Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada): I am hoping you can help me find more about him prior to moving to Movilla, Newtonards, Co. Down.  The 1901 census you previously provided noted his birth location as Antrim.  His 1875 marriage document updated his residence to be Movilla, Newtonards and his father to be James Hamilton, a laborer.  The 1890 birth registration document for his son Robert noted, I believe, that they lived on Gracewell Street in Movilla, Newtonards.  One document I accessed through Ancestry [Ireland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911] for his daughter Eliza/Elizabeth noted his birth location as simply Bostin or Bootin ~ I have no idea what this might be for as I searched locations in Northern Ireland, there was no match.

2) Martha Jane Taylor (1853 Newtonards, Co. Down ~ aft 2 Jun 1921 Calgary, Alberta, Canada): At the time of her marriage to John Hamilton in 1875, the document noted her residence to be Killarn, Newtonards and her father to be James Taylor, a shoemaker.

3) Our family member who is a direct male descendant from John and Martha Jane has taken a variety of DNA tests, to include the y700.  We belong to the HAMILTON Surname Group and through them we've learned interestingly, that the surnames of Hamilton and Robertson are closely connected, and some of the other members of the same subgroup can trace their lines back to Scotland.  I offer this only as information for yDNA testing certainly helps to bring the globe closer!

May you stay safe and healthy!  I live in California (between San Francisco and San Jose) where we continue to be under "shelter in place".  The upside?  Lots of time to do genealogical research and to work on household projects!

Best regards, Harriet