Looking for birth, death or marraige for Margaret Carrol and Henry Connolly of Monaghan, early 1800s
Children Elizabeth and John moved to Glasgow. Mid 1800s
Elizabeth married John Reilly n Ireland and moved to Glasgow.
John married Ann Leonard in 1855 also Glasgow
Lots of info on John and Elizabeth and their Glasgow families if anyone needs help.
But I have nothing on Henry or Margaret, only their names on John and Elizabeth’s marriages.
my brick wall, Thank You
Ann Connolly
Conn
Tuesday 1st Aug 2023, 03:01PMMessage Board Replies
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Hello Ann,
Following is the transcript of a baptismal record found on rootsireland.ie. Is this the daughter of your Elizabeth Connelly Reilly? If so, the family was living in Feragh townland in 1838.
Name: Anne Reilly
Baptism: 25-Nov-1838
Address: Feragh
Parish/District: Monaghan, Co. Monaghan
Father: John Reilly
Mother: Elizabeth Connolly
Sponsors:
John Connolly
Anne Reilly
You can read about Feragh townland and see a map here: https://www.townlands.ie/monaghan/monaghan/monaghan/monaghan-rural/feragh/
Patricia
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Patricia, thanks so much for your quick reply, I will pull my file and let you
know if it’s the same family. Everything sound right and I have BMD for all of the Connolly’s in Glasgow so should be no problem finding it. I’ll let you know
later today. I appreciate your help thanks, Ann
Conn
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I note that John Connolly married Ann Leonard in 1855, the first year of statutory registration in Scotland. Civil certificates that year contained some additional information, dropped in later years. For example the parties birthplaces. The certificate should also tell you whether their parents were alive or dead at that date. (It should say “dcd” after their names if dead). Useful to know if searching for the parents in Ireland.
No Connollys in Feragh in Griffiths Valuation (1860).
Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
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Thank you Elwyn I was never able to find the 1855 stat register in Scotlands people, I do have the church register for the marriage in st Joseph’s Church
Glasgow, Sept 18, 1855 with priests signature. I was told by someone on another chat site that it was not a valid source and should not be relied on.
Everything else going forward is from Scotland peoples which are copies from original BDMs. I’ll give it another try though now that I’m working the file again. Thanks for your help. Cheers Ann
Conn
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I can see the marriage on Scotlandspeople under RC marriages (John Conneley & Ann Leonard) but I don’t see a civil record of it, which is a pity.
The church version of the ceremony looks perfectly fine to me and would be regarded as a perfectly acceptable primary source that they married. Just it doesn’t contain the addition personal information you would find on a civil certificate, especially in 1855. It’s possible that this church, in the first year of civil registration, overlooked sending the necessary information to the civil registrar. (Something similar also happened in Ireland in the early days too, with early marriages, births & deaths not always being recorded).
FMP lists the marriage between John Reilly & Elizabeth Connolly on 11th Dec 1838 in Monaghan parish. Witnesses appear to have been Felix Connolly and Florence(?) Connolly. Hard to make that second witness's name out, plus it has been translated into Latin.
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632885#page/128/mode/1up
Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
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Thanks Elwyn, I have the Glasgow census for 1851-1881, Elizabeth died in Glasgow in 1888 and John died before 1861 census date,I was sure I had the certificate but cant locate it right now. I see Ann on the 1861 Census aged 20
with 3 other siblings all living with mother at 90 High St in Glasgow. Trying to find where Ann went and who she married but Reilly is common in Glasgow. I also wonder if she stayed with her Grandparents and joined her mother when her father died. I have her Birth in Ireland but she wasn’t on the1851 census
with her family but shows in 1861 only.
I am Scottish by the way, Connolly is my husbands name, I’m a Sloss.
We both emigrated to Canada in 1960s with parents.
Thanks again for your input Elwyn
Conn
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