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Hello,

I'm wondering if anyone on the Derry board has heard of his family name ... 

Through DNA match trees, I have discovered my McLaughlin ancestor(s) may have married into a large McNichol family. I have confirmed DNA matches with 3 or 4 descendants from William McNichol. William's parents were Patrick McNichol and Mary McLaughlin from Lisnascreghog. Patrick McNichol was the grandson of a man named either Thomas or Patrick McNichol "Bhetti/Bheiti" (1798-1878). The handwritten family tree I posess shows Thomas Bhetti at the top, but a note mentioning his name was Patrick McNichol when he died. 

I did not know these nicknames for families existed until recently. Just wondering if there were any local residents who recognized the nickname. Thank you!

 

 

 

 

Shannon

Tuesday 10th Mar 2020, 05:08AM

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  • Nicknames were used quite extensively in Ireland and in some parts of Scotland. They were often used where there were lots of people of the same name in a given area, and helped distinguish either an individual or a whole family group. They can mean anything. Examples I have seen meant red-haired, blacksmith and fighter. I am sure you get the idea. They occasionally make it into Griffiths Valuation (where they are called an agnomen). Bheiti in Irish can translate as “goodness.”

    I don’t know this area well enough and can’t help with the Bhetti/Bheiti name but perhaps someone reading this may know. 

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Tuesday 10th Mar 2020, 10:45AM
  • Elwyn, thanks for your reply. It's my understanding that if I were to travel to the townland the "Bhetti" were from, it's likely someone there would know the family group? As in, they would recognize Bhetti rather than McNichol? 

    Shannon

    Tuesday 10th Mar 2020, 09:19PM
  • Well they might be able to help if the nickname name is still in use today. Looking at the 1901 census there were 8 McNicholl homes in Lisnascreghog, out of about 26 occupied homes altogether (plus a Nicholl which is the same surname):

    http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Slaght/Lisnascreghog/

    The modern Lisnascreghog Rd runs through the middle of the townland. A few miles west of Garvagh. Postcode BT51. There’s at least one McNicholl living there at present. (It’s not our policy on Ireland Reaching Out to give out living people’s details, but you shouldn’t have too much difficulty tracking them down using the local phone book).

     

     

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Wednesday 11th Mar 2020, 12:46AM
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    Shannon

    My third attempt trying to reply. My g grandparents were Patrick McNichol and Mary McLaughlin. Please contact me at detta_byrne@hotmail.com. Hopefully I can help your research.

    Regards

    Detta 

     

     

    Detta

    Sunday 25th Jul 2021, 08:57PM
  • Shannon

    My third attempt trying to reply. My g grandparents were Patrick McNichol and Mary McLaughlin. Please contact me at detta_byrne@hotmail.com. Hopefully I can help your research.

    Regards
    Detta

    Detta

    Tuesday 27th Jul 2021, 12:58PM

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